05:02:32 <juhp> #startmeeting i18n
05:02:32 <zodbot> Meeting started Tue Nov 24 05:02:32 2009 UTC.  The chair is juhp. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.
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05:03:05 <juhp> welcome to fedora-i18n meeting
05:03:15 <pravins> hi all
05:03:22 <jni> hi all
05:03:25 <phuang> hi
05:03:27 <paragan> hi
05:03:29 <juhp> (we didn't have a meeting two weeks ago since some of us were engaged in a meeting)
05:03:39 <juhp> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/I18N/Meetings/2009-11-24
05:03:55 <juhp> ok added a few last minute topics...
05:05:00 <fujiwarat> hi
05:05:02 <juhp> ping tagoh3 dychen_
05:05:08 <juhp> hi everyone
05:05:12 <tagoh3> hi
05:05:21 <dychen> hi juhp
05:05:38 <juhp> thought we might start looking through a few buglists to start off today
05:05:55 <juhp> specially since f10 bugs will get closed soon
05:06:23 <juhp> also our bug count seems to be going up - so good to keep on eye on
05:06:32 <juhp> an eye
05:07:03 <juhp> * 29 f10 bugs
05:07:58 <juhp> I am sorting by assignee
05:08:10 <juhp> pravins: how about bug 494902
05:08:11 <buggbot> Bug https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=494902 high, low, ---, b.rahul.pm, ASSIGNED, [te_IN] Incorrect glyph substitution for   telugu letter ka followed by dep vowel AA then consonant sha and then viram
05:08:51 <juhp> bug 494902
05:09:17 <pravins> there is bug open for that in upstream pango
05:09:18 <juhp> only f10?
05:09:22 <juhp> aha
05:09:33 <pravins> i guess better to wait for harfbuzz now
05:09:40 <pravins> i am updating bug
05:09:47 <juhp> pravins: ok
05:10:00 <juhp> and what you want to do with the bug?
05:10:18 <juhp> move release, component, close?
05:11:02 <pravins> just updating component, since issue is still there
05:12:42 <juhp> pravins: so will be closed soon....  it is ok?
05:13:00 <pravins> yes
05:13:00 <juhp> I better recap why we are doing this
05:13:18 <juhp> pravins: so we don't need a bug to track this?
05:13:21 <juhp> ok
05:14:01 <pravins> juhp: dont know but when exactly we are getting harbuzz shaper in pango, with it i guess we can close many bug
05:14:12 <juhp> ideally I would like to clear the f10 list before all the bugs get autoclosed - that way it is much easier to track them all
05:14:21 <pravins> aha
05:14:22 <juhp> pravins: not soon?
05:14:32 <juhp> so asking again
05:14:38 <tagoh3> looks like pravins updated the version to rawhide too
05:14:42 <juhp> you want to close, move to newer release, or....
05:14:47 <juhp> ah ok
05:14:50 <juhp> tagoh3: thank you
05:15:33 <juhp> pravins: then there are 6 bugs assigned to behdad
05:15:56 <juhp> pravins: if you could retriage those it would be great
05:16:07 <pravins> juhp: ok
05:16:11 * pravins doing that
05:16:13 <paragan> we are waiting for behdad to fix harfbuzz for indic module in it
05:16:55 <juhp> paragan: how about an indic harfbuff tracker bug say?
05:17:15 <juhp> paragan: we're talking about f10 bugs :)
05:17:21 <paragan> yes
05:17:48 <paragan> we can create indic harfbuzz tracker bug and add all rendering bugs to it
05:18:08 <juhp> if it is useful, then cool
05:18:36 <juhp> paragan: was just trying to say harfbuzz will not come to f10...
05:18:43 <paragan> yes
05:19:01 <juhp> so it is irrelevant until the bugs are moved to rawhide....
05:19:31 <juhp> I stole the gcin bug - will try to poke it
05:20:13 <juhp> fujiwarat: how about the gdm bugs?
05:20:48 <juhp> phuang: gvim?
05:22:04 <phuang> gvim?
05:22:04 <juhp> phuang: and the java bug?
05:22:21 <juhp> bug 462170
05:22:22 <buggbot> Bug https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=462170 medium, medium, ---, karsten, NEW, gvim ignores space committed by gtk im module.
05:23:38 <fujiwarat> juhp: We have discussed bug 599273 recently and probably could be upstreamed. I think other issues are still under investigations.
05:23:39 <buggbot> Bug https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=599273 was not found.
05:23:58 <phuang> juhp, let me check it
05:24:36 <juhp> phuang: this is from the f10 bug list posted above...
05:24:41 <juhp> thanks
05:24:48 <phuang> yeah
05:24:54 <phuang> seem it does not happen in f12
05:25:03 <juhp> oh good
05:25:15 <juhp> phuang: so maybe close it currentrelease
05:25:21 <phuang> yeah
05:25:37 <juhp> phuang: and bug 462412
05:25:38 <buggbot> Bug https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=462412 high, high, ---, langel, ASSIGNED, JTextArea & JTextField do not send XIM_SET_IC_FOCUS & XIM_UNSET_IC_FOCUS events to XIM server
05:26:07 <juhp> fujiwarat: talking about bug 474010 and bug 474011
05:26:09 <buggbot> Bug https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=474010 high, high, ---, jmccann, ASSIGNED, Russian keyboard behavior broken in GDM
05:26:09 <buggbot> Bug https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=474011 high, high, ---, jmccann, ASSIGNED, Broken keyboard switching in GDM
05:26:21 <phuang> I will test this bug again
05:26:28 <juhp> thanks!
05:28:19 <juhp> tagoh3: I guess bug 167596 can be closed?
05:28:21 <buggbot> Bug https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=167596 medium, medium, ---, twaugh, ASSIGNED, Bounding Box seems wrong
05:28:48 <tagoh3> juhp: yep
05:30:26 <juhp> please
05:31:44 <tagoh3> done
05:31:50 <juhp> thanks
05:32:01 <juhp> whee down to 22 bugs
05:33:59 <paragan> yes
05:34:49 <pravins> its now 20 :)
05:35:11 <tagoh3> bug 434895 shouldn't happens on F-12 or dup of bug 502425
05:35:13 <buggbot> Bug https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=434895 low, low, ---, tagoh, ASSIGNED, im-settings-daemon can not terminate scim processes correctly.
05:35:13 <buggbot> Bug https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=502425 medium, medium, ---, phuang, ASSIGNED, after upgrading from f10 to f11 scim stops working
05:38:58 <fujiwarat> juhp: I think bug 474010 works with password prompt in f12 but I'm not sure if we need to change the keylayout for user name prompt.
05:38:59 <buggbot> Bug https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=474010 high, high, ---, jmccann, ASSIGNED, Russian keyboard behavior broken in GDM
05:39:48 <fujiwarat> Probably I don't understand another bug 474011.
05:39:51 <buggbot> Bug https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=474011 high, high, ---, jmccann, ASSIGNED, Broken keyboard switching in GDM
05:42:00 <juhp> fujiwarat: let me look
05:51:41 <paragan> down to 12 bugs now
05:51:53 <juhp> yes
05:52:18 <juhp> fujiwarat: let's look at those gdm bugs after
05:52:29 <fujiwarat> ok
05:55:27 <juhp> phuang, tagoh3: leave you guys to triage the bugs you own
05:55:44 <tagoh3> juhp: cleaned up a bit
05:55:49 <juhp> not too worried about pygtk2 and stardict
05:55:52 <juhp> tagoh3: cool
05:56:01 <juhp> but pinged them anyway
05:56:19 <phuang> ok
05:56:32 <juhp> the russian gdm sounds a bit serious - so will do some testing after this meeting
05:56:49 <juhp> hopefully it is better now as fujiwarat mentioned
05:57:08 <juhp> I think we can move on
05:58:10 <juhp> think we will skip rawhide or other bugs unless anyone has any urgent ones to bring up
05:58:35 <juhp> nearly out of time but just wanted to mention
05:58:40 <juhp> # f13 features
05:59:01 <juhp> anyone have any planned features for f13
06:00:07 <tagoh3> not that big deal but was about to propose some desktop support on imsettings in f13.
06:02:05 <juhp> cool
06:03:26 <juhp> I need to update https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/YumLangpackPlugin with yum-langpacks
06:03:58 <juhp> we could discuss more on f13 features next time
06:04:42 <juhp> another topic was revamping/cleaning up our wiki pages to be more accessible to contributors
06:05:01 <juhp> but I think will move that to next time too
06:05:19 <juhp> # openspace
06:05:28 <juhp> any other topics or questions?
06:06:35 <juhp> let's close the meeting in a couple of minutes if nothing more
06:08:04 <juhp> thank you for the meeting
06:08:24 <juhp> good we cleared up most of the f10 bugs
06:08:44 <juhp> #endmeeting