#fedora-meeting: Fedora QA Meeting

Meeting summary

1. Gathering in the lobby (jlaska, 16:00:44)
   1. https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-test-list/2009-November/msg01223.html (jlaska, 16:05:27)
   
   
2. Previous meeting follow-up (jlaska, 16:05:41)
   
3. Enhancing release criteria (jlaska, 16:08:42)
   1. next step ... of taking all that feedback and working it into the pages (jlaska, 16:15:27)
   2. send another reminder to the list by say tomorrow (jlaska, 16:15:34)
   3. hackfest session at FUDCon to finalize (jlaska, 16:15:49)
   4. ACTION: adamw to offer some guidance on how to handle hardware/local_configuration specific bugs (jlaska, 16:16:11)
   
   
4. Security Policy/Test_Plan (jlaska, 16:17:00)
   1. https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-list/2009-November/msg01745.html (jlaska, 16:17:33)
   2. there's vague consensus that we should have package defaults that are 'very secure' and then per-spin customization for less security (if desired) (jlaska, 16:23:03)
   3. no-one has really stepped up and said 'yeah there's a plan and we're doing it here' (jlaska, 16:23:17)
   4. skvidal drafted a change policy and sent to fesco mailing list last week (jlaska, 16:23:42)
   5. next step ... file a FESCO ticket asking fesco to look into the issue and help us move towards a security policy (jlaska, 16:31:47)
   6. ACTION: adamw will reach out to FESCO for guidance on defining a security policy (jlaska, 16:32:53)
   
   
5. F-12 QA retrospective (jlaska, 16:35:05)
   1. https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-test-list/2009-November/msg01126.html (jlaska, 16:35:12)
   2. https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_12_QA_Retrospective (jlaska, 16:36:11)
   3. Next steps ... I plan to organize the feedback into related groups to make it easier to see trends/problem_areas (jlaska, 16:39:57)
   
   
6. AutoQA Updates (jlaska, 16:41:49)
   1. kparal has a few autoqa patches out for review - adding --help and --dry-run options to all watchers (jlaska, 16:45:32)
   2. kparal plans to contribute to the 'Getting started' use case once changes are in (jlaska, 16:46:03)
   3. kparal some progress on integrating rpmguard, more work remains (jlaska, 16:47:24)
   4. Wwoods accepted kparal's local autoqa harness patch ... tests can now be launched on your local system to facilitate test development/integration (jlaska, 16:49:30)
   5. wwoods improved support for running 'noarch' tests - tests like rpmlint, which don't need to run on the same arch as the target package/tree (jlaska, 16:53:49)
   6. wwoods updated repoinfo to reflect the fact that there's no ppc rawhide anymore (jlaska, 16:54:01)
   7. wwoods plans ... some FUDCon prep work and helping kparal integrate rpmguard (jlaska, 16:54:42)
   8. thanks to help from abadger1999, autoqa-israwhidebroken is now packaged. I sent a link to the branch to autoqa-devel. If folks are happy, I can merge that into master (jlaska, 16:56:40)
   
   
7. Open Discussion - <your topic here> (jlaska, 16:59:08)
   1. http://loupgaroublond.blogspot.com/2009/11/glogg.html (adamw, 16:59:40)
   
   
8. Open Discussion - Glögg as the official drink of QA (jlaska, 17:00:07)
   1. http://www.mostphotos.com/preview/150009/grogg-drink-ice-glas-red.jpg ? (jlaska, 17:01:19)
   2. http://www.drunkenblog.com/drunkenblog-archives/i/oh_glogg_youdevil.jpg (jlaska, 17:01:42)
   3. http://www.acatinthekitchen.com/photo/advent/glogg.jpg (adamw, 17:01:59)
   
   
9. Open Discussion - FUDCon travel plans (jlaska, 17:03:36)
   
10. Open Discussion - FUDCon travel plans (jlaska, 17:04:45)

Action items

1. adamw to offer some guidance on how to handle hardware/local_configuration specific bugs
2. adamw will reach out to FESCO for guidance on defining a security policy

Action items, by person

1. adamw
   1. adamw to offer some guidance on how to handle hardware/local_configuration specific bugs
   2. adamw will reach out to FESCO for guidance on defining a security policy

People present (lines said)

1. jlaska (115)
2. adamw (53)
3. wwoods (27)
4. poelcat (25)
5. kparal (15)
6. nirik (14)
7. skvidal (14)
8. Oxf13 (10)
9. Viking-Ice (7)
10. zodbot (3)
11. tk009 (2)