02:00:11 #startmeeting 02:00:11 Meeting started Wed Dec 16 02:00:11 2009 UTC. The chair is StabbyMc. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 02:00:11 Useful Commands: #action #agreed #halp #info #idea #link #topic. 02:00:35 #topic Fedora NA Ambassadors meeting 02:00:42 Rollcall. 02:00:47 .fas smcbrien 02:00:48 StabbyMc: smcbrien '' 02:00:50 .fas jfsaucier 02:00:50 .fas grantbow 02:00:51 djf_jeff: jfsaucier 'Jean-Francois Saucier' 02:00:56 Grantbow: grantbow 'Grant Bowman' 02:00:58 .fas pcalarco 02:00:59 .fas ke4qqq 02:00:59 pcalarco: pcalarco 'Pascal Vincent Calarco' 02:01:01 .fas arsenick 02:01:01 .fasinfo jbwillia 02:01:07 ke4qqq: ke4qqq 'David Nalley' 02:01:11 .fas etank 02:01:11 Arsenick: arsenick 'René Jr Purcell' 02:01:15 VileGent: User: jbwillia, Name: Ben Williams, email: vaioof@yahoo.com, Creation: 2006-04-17, IRC Nick: Southern_Gentleman, Timezone: US/Eastern, Locale: en, Extension: 5100572, GPG key ID: 295A4FBC, Status: active 02:01:19 VileGent: Approved Groups: cla_done ambassadors freemedia cla_fedora gitcourses irc-support-operators 02:01:23 VileGent: Unapproved Groups: None 02:01:27 etank: kenop 'Chetan Kumar' - spyrkob 'Bartosz Spyrko-Śmietanko' - thomasthetank 'thomas strickland' - etank 'Eric Lake' - swetank 'SWETANK KUMAR SAHA' - ketankumar 'ketankumar patil' 02:01:39 im in there somewhere 02:01:57 etank you should use fasinfo same as i do 02:02:10 will do 02:03:28 anyone else for roll call? 02:03:47 Dahlan's here 02:03:57 #topic Fedora NA Ambassadors meeting Announcements 02:03:59 First meeting, not sure if that's the proper way to call off or not. Sorry. 02:04:32 dahlan: we usually use .fas or .fasinfo to get our name in the record, though inode0 suggests we do away with it. 02:04:52 My only announcement is the availability of shirts. 02:05:04 ! 02:05:27 https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/ButtonUp 02:05:38 #link https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/ButtonUp 02:05:52 At the bottom of the page is order info. 02:06:18 Anyone order one yet? 02:06:38 * inode0 pointed to that page when asked for "ideas" 02:06:38 hopefully soon 02:06:38 I'm ordering mine in Jan. 02:06:54 StabbyMc: I plan to do it soon 02:07:49 At some point I'd like to get some feedback on the order process, mine was a little rocky, but I was the first, and I change locations everyweek, so shipping to me was problematic. 02:08:13 But because of that, I want to make sure that the vendor is doing a good job, otherwise we'll bounce. 02:09:03 So feedback when you've got it would be appreciated :-) 02:09:10 Any other announcements? 02:09:15 vote 02:09:57 less than 24 hours left 02:10:06 already done 02:10:56 More announcements? 02:11:32 #topic Fedora NA Ambassadors Meeting Events 02:11:48 So the only upcoming event we've talke about recently has been Scale 02:11:56 Anything else circling out there? 02:12:03 ! 02:12:04 There is texas linuxfest 02:12:25 ??? 02:12:51 StabbyMc: I forget, should we be putting local LUG events on here where we'd like an Ambassadors Kit? 02:13:06 I have already requested said Kit 02:13:18 pcalarco: I'd like to see them - and the reports that follow along 02:13:19 I go on the local radio tomorrow to promote Fedora and announce our release event 02:13:30 pcalarco: kit requests go through traq, but I'd update the Events page with any events you attend. 02:14:16 dfj_jeff: break a leg 02:14:38 Grantbow: hmm, I don't know this expression here ;) 02:14:45 pcalarco: I saw your request, F12 media is hoped to be here by Christmas 02:14:53 dfj_jeff: best of luck 02:15:05 inode0: thanks, sounds great 02:15:17 Grantbow: ah, ok, thanks ;) 02:15:23 * inode0 grumbles about it taking a month to get media 02:15:26 inode0: any news on what the hold up is?? I thought it was 'ready' except for a small snafu before fudcon 02:16:00 disagreement over what is required as payment I believe 02:16:15 spevack sent out an e-mail to ambassadors-list today which in part said it was on his plate. 02:16:20 inode0: +1 02:16:29 * ke4qqq thought the email today was regarding emea media 02:16:36 perhaps I missed one though 02:16:41 he mentioned NA media too 02:17:38 Anybody need stuff for an upcoming event like banners or event-boxes that hasn't been addressed? 02:18:59 #topic Fedora NA Ambassadors Meeting - Budget review 02:19:31 spevak said he'd likely not be here tonight, but he sent an update via e-mail today to ambassadors-list 02:19:50 I'm assuming nothing has changed since our discussion of budget last meeting. 02:19:57 * StabbyMc doesn't think anything has been ordered. 02:20:02 well, we have lost 2 more weeks 02:20:13 there is that. 02:20:16 Max will be ordering the case badges for everywhere 02:20:25 We need to take care of anything else we want 02:20:42 I'll be starting with window-clings again next week. 02:20:48 Now that shirts are all done. 02:21:27 most of the companies that do the window clings also do vynl stickers, so I'll likely try and get them done at the same time. 02:21:30 If we want more shirts this quarter we should (a) decide which make and model and (b) contact DemonJester 02:22:03 splatter shirts +1 02:22:30 * slipp3d seconds the splatter shirt 02:22:56 the splatter shirt is pretty nice 02:23:21 * inode0 votes for the old less expensive style but expects to be outvoted :) 02:24:04 inode0, what does the older one look like ... the only one that I have really seen is the splatter shirt 02:24:12 inode0: while I appreciate the less expensivness; the splatter shirt is far superior. 02:24:19 i agree. if the older ones are less money and we can get more then it makes sense to buy those instead. 02:24:30 We could also always ask for a new shirt design from Design 02:24:45 The splatter shirt costs 50% more 02:25:39 I'm fine with the splatter being an occasional indulgence, don't think it should be the default giveaway shirt though 02:26:23 how about splatter shirts for the ambassadors and the older style shirt for the boxes 02:26:23 is dnhodgson here? 02:26:37 splatter shirts are too expensive 02:26:39 * StabbyMc rembembers he was going to get shirt pricing. 02:26:49 less expensive is better 02:26:54 new design is fine with me too, just remember each color adds cost and 3 colors is relatively about as cheap as we can get 02:26:56 slipp3d: they are only viable in large quantity- otherwise they are a fortune - literally 02:27:27 okay .. well that shoots my idea to the ground then.... 02:27:45 I think i'd like the old shirts better if they were black. 02:27:52 slipp3d: we can get more again at some point, when we are flush :) 02:28:11 StabbyMc, inode0 .... do you have a link to the old design... i would like to take a look at it 02:28:23 they aren't for us, conference people aren't picky 02:28:41 50% more shirts is a big win 02:29:19 or, 33% whatever 02:29:48 For the conference, I'd say go with the cheaper shirts. 02:29:50 http://www.flickr.com/photos/herlo0/2939282628/sizes/l/ 02:29:55 I agree Grantbow ... more shirts would be a good thing 02:30:43 http://www.flickr.com/photos/herlo0/2938430887/sizes/l/ 02:31:04 I also wouldn't fight the I F Freedom shirt on the teeshirt page. 02:31:13 https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Artwork/T-Shirt 02:31:49 (though could do without the back) 02:31:52 StabbyMc: the "Get Some" one?? or the "Do You?" one 02:32:16 ke4qqq: that's the one, though I'd be very happy without "Get Some" written on them. 02:32:54 thanks inode0 ... 02:33:24 * inode0 sort of likes the join url 02:34:21 join url? 02:34:28 join.fp.o 02:34:47 you know, where you go to join :) 02:34:51 I like the " I (F) Freedom " shirts 02:35:09 I wouldn't be opposed to the join url printed on there too. 02:35:25 or at least fp.or 02:35:56 +1 freedom shirts! 02:36:00 I know it misses the alliteration, but libre would almost be a better fit there 02:36:40 * StabbyMc casts about for volunteers to take on getting a new shirt produced. 02:37:34 No volunteers? 02:37:39 StabbyMc, what would need to be done for getting the new shirts 02:37:41 * inode0 keeps saying we should talk to DemonJester rather than duplicate the work he has already done 02:37:58 at the sametime it's not bad to spread the task love 02:37:59 slipp3d: talking to the vendor listed on the swag page. 02:38:10 sending them the artwork. 02:38:21 approving or modifying the proof 02:38:25 then ordering. 02:38:34 the ordering part is where you get max involved. 02:39:27 * maxamillion is late again ... just got home 02:39:37 sorry :( 02:39:54 * inode0 will suggest (a) get art lined up and (b) discuss it with DemonJester before cold calling the vendor 02:40:01 maxamillion: you just volunteered to chair a committee! 02:40:40 StabbyMc: sweet, what committee? 02:40:46 slipp3d: or what inode0 said. 02:41:04 maxamillion: I haven't decided yet. But it'll be very painful! ;-) 02:41:48 StabbyMc, I can see what i can do about getting some time together and to contact DemonJester about getting this started 02:41:50 StabbyMc: no, it will be the most awesome committee EVAR 02:42:11 slipp3d: thanks for stepping up! 02:42:32 * StabbyMc annoints him with the tee shirt wand 02:43:13 * slipp3d doesn't know if I should duck or not.... O-o 02:43:17 #action slipp3d contacts DemonJester to get started on I F Fedora tee shirts. 02:43:26 slipp3d: too late, it's done ;-) 02:43:36 so are we doing up new artwork for the shirts also? 02:44:04 crossbytes: we have the artwork already for the shirt we were just talking about. 02:44:30 though the print likely needs to be white instead of black like the marketing page. 02:44:30 * ke4qqq wonders if we can do it in black instead of white 02:44:50 ke4qqq: tee color, or text color? 02:45:01 tee color 02:45:20 I was rather enamored with the blue, but it likely would look dumb with jeans. 02:45:30 So black would probably be better. 02:45:55 depends on the color of blue IMO 02:46:21 so what artwork are we thinking... (or do I need to bring this up in a different meeting) 02:46:37 slipp3d: I was thinking https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Artwork/T-Shirt 02:46:49 there's already a mock-up, with SVG file for the logo. 02:47:05 * etank likes the idea of a black tee 02:47:05 though I would say lose the sleeve printing 02:47:25 StabbyMc: you realize there are ~12 different shirts ont he page right?? 02:47:25 slipp3d: if you are doing it have at it - you don't need to buckle to pressure from StabbyMc 02:47:26 And we'd have to get http://join.fedoraproject.org printed on the back ? 02:47:48 I also would prefer a black T ... less stain revealing 02:47:53 ke4qqq: true, but only 2, very close together, that say I F Fedora ... 02:47:58 We all seem to like the I F Freedom well enough ... 02:48:13 Er. I F Freedom 02:48:26 Please stop thinking about these shirts in such a personal way - it is swag to give to other people 02:48:40 i second the I F Freedom 02:48:49 slipp3d: though that said, I'd be happy with whatever. as long as it gets done. 02:48:58 inode0: +1 02:49:01 slipp3d: but think some about redesigning the back if you want to 02:49:09 inode0, you answered my question before i could even ask it 02:49:16 inode0: yes - contributors get different shirts from fads and fudcons and the polos and button down shirts. 02:50:19 Ok, any other budget items? 02:50:55 I think that kind of rounds out the task list review from last time as well. 02:51:13 #topic Fedora NA Ambassadors Meeting - Open Floor 02:51:42 I haven't seen lcafiero yet, I know he had an item for open floor. 02:51:54 Anyone else have anything? 02:52:53 ! 02:53:16 I need help with my gpg key on my fas account 02:53:33 can't aggregate my blog postings to the Planet right now 02:53:50 pcalarco: can we work on it in #f-ambassadors ? 02:54:02 pcalarco: sounds like a #fedora or #fedora-ambassadors item. 02:54:07 NM, 02:54:09 ke4qqq: sounds great, thx 02:54:14 ke4qqq: too quick. 02:54:37 If there's nothing else, I'm going to call the meeting. 02:55:03 3 02:55:10 2 02:55:16 1 02:55:19 0 02:55:20 #endmeeting