02:00:38 #startmeeting FAmNA 20100216 02:00:41 Meeting started Wed Feb 17 02:00:38 2010 UTC. The chair is makfinsky. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 02:00:43 Useful Commands: #action #agreed #halp #info #idea #link #topic. 02:00:44 #meetingname FAmNA Feb 16, 2010 02:00:46 The meeting name has been set to 'famna_feb_16,_2010' 02:00:47 .fas dramsey 02:00:48 dramsey: dramsey 'David Ramsey' 02:00:53 Welcome all to the Feb 16, 2010 FAmNA meeting 02:00:53 .fas Ac-town 02:00:56 Ac-town: actown 'Derrick Dymock' 02:00:59 .fasinfo etank 02:00:59 .fas makfinsky 02:00:59 no need to fas 02:01:00 etank: User: etank, Name: Eric Lake, email: ericlake@gmail.com, Creation: 2009-11-22, IRC Nick: etank, Timezone: America/New_York, Locale: en, Extension: 5140933, GPG key ID: 5A5151D6, Status: active 02:01:02 .fas jetrigger 02:01:04 etank: Approved Groups: ambassadors cla_done cla_fedora 02:01:08 .fas crossbytes 02:01:09 makfinsky: makfinsky '' 02:01:09 .fasinfo jstanley 02:01:12 jetrigger: jetrigger 'Chris W Tucker' 02:01:16 crossbytes: crossbytes 'Kevin Higgins' 02:01:20 jds2001: User: jstanley, Name: Jon Stanley, email: jonstanley@gmail.com, Creation: 2007-12-16, IRC Nick: jds2001, Timezone: US/Eastern, Locale: en, Extension: 5102788, GPG key ID: 1F85118D, Status: active 02:01:22 .fas rrix 02:01:24 jds2001: Approved Groups: sysadmin-main altvideos web +sysadmin-tools @gitkeychecker +sysadmin-web cla_fedora cla_done sysadmin-test triagers ambassadors +fedorabugs marketing @gittriage sysadmin sysadmin-noc bzrpackagedb sysadmin-devel gitpython-bugzilla @packager gitsupybot-fedora sysadmin-hosted @provenpackager 02:01:28 rrix: rrix 'Ryan Rix' 02:01:29 .fas threethirty 02:01:32 #topic-Agenda 02:01:36 threethirty: threethirty 'Justin O'Brien' 02:01:38 Thx VileGent 02:01:48 .fas ke4qqq 02:01:50 ke4qqq: ke4qqq 'David Nalley' 02:02:20 #link https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Meeting:Ambassadors_2010-2-16#Agenda 02:02:20 02:02:25 #topic Announcements 02:03:21 Bueller? 02:03:38 * inode0 has an announcement 02:03:46 there appear to be no announcements 02:03:54 Excellent! 02:04:15 Moving on then. 02:04:17 #topic Events 02:04:28 #topic Events - TLF 02:04:36 #link https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Texas:LinuxFest_2010 02:05:02 we had a shipping mishap - I assume it is either straightened out or will be soon 02:05:36 I sent stuff, it was refused, then returned to ke4qqq 02:05:49 Refused by...? That sounds odd. 02:05:53 dell 02:06:00 Heh! 02:06:05 just a goof up 02:06:05 sent to david at work? 02:06:12 Ok, it happens. 02:06:17 scott 02:06:20 k 02:06:34 Ok, next. 02:06:37 CFP was also extended to 3/1 02:06:54 submit papers! 02:06:56 We do have several folks heading there, correct? 02:07:17 jetrigger: it's leaving me tomorrow 02:07:22 spevack and I have submitted talks and plan to go if they are accepted 02:07:24 good deal 02:07:43 Excellent. 02:07:51 there are several Texas people going for sure 02:07:54 inode0: You seem to be a font of paper ideas. 02:08:34 that is all I have on TLF unless collier_s has something to add 02:08:42 Ok, any other events not on the agenda? 02:08:56 My buddy Murph and The New Jersey Linux User’s group are doing a showing of the film “Revolution OS” at the Darress Theatre in Boonton NJ on Wednesday, March 31st 2010. 02:08:57 there is another one on the agenda 02:09:07 https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/SCaLE_8x_Event 02:09:26 inode0, just to let you know the packages still are not here 02:09:31 Ah, yes, getting ahead of myself. 02:09:57 #topic Events - SCALE -- final check-in before event 02:09:57 #link https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/SCaLE_8x_Event 02:10:00 threethirty: where in the world in Boonton? 02:10:00 collier_s: ke4qqq just mentioned he will be shipping them tomorrow if I understood him 02:10:16 ah, ok, i just joined, thanks 02:10:36 jds2001: beats me, i think they have a map on their site NJlinux.org 02:10:47 * jds2001 shipped the vertical banners awhile back. 02:10:52 scott should have them now. 02:11:04 but he is unhere. 02:12:01 * nb 02:12:06 Ok, what's the update with ScaLe? Lots of folks heading there. 02:12:29 * inode0 just tried to poke lcafiero 02:12:52 he likes making a fashionably late entrance for effect 02:12:56 makfinsky: there will be a fedora presance 02:12:58 several of us anyways, quaid is keynoteing, and we are have a FAD working on the Summer of Code stuff 02:12:59 presence even 02:13:30 Excellent, any challenges, difficulties? 02:13:32 herlo, i think is giving a talk as well 02:13:43 we will see about the weather 02:13:58 eof 02:14:03 stpierre is as well. Not sure if it's in FAM capacity though. 02:14:06 * quaid pokes his head in 02:14:38 makfinsky: stpierre is who? 02:15:38 quaid: chris stpierre 02:15:47 * ke4qqq thought he was listed under lopsa 02:15:53 this year anyway 02:16:06 yeah, he is lopsa 02:16:23 a lot of LOPSA presence this year 02:16:26 quaid: stpierre is giving an ldap talk, not sure if he's an ambassador. smart guy, is #rhel often. 02:16:58 ok, I'm wondering because we're planning a flyer with Fedora/Red Hat talks 02:17:00 Sounds like ScaLE is the place to be. 02:17:01 he is a lopsa instructor and pal 02:17:14 and an all around good guy 02:17:31 not an ambassador but helped at the Fedora booth at the summit 02:17:37 if you really want to be cool, get buttons printed that say 'poor stpierre' 02:17:41 :D 02:18:15 quaid: what night is thai? 02:18:16 I don't see it on the schedule 02:18:19 lopsa hosts SCALE U at SCALE 02:18:20 and when are you guys getting in 02:18:26 ke4qqq: thai? 02:18:29 we're getting in Thu. night 02:18:32 * ke4qqq just found out I am arriving really late on Wednesday night 02:18:39 quaid: food 02:18:45 ke4qqq, 11AM thursday 02:18:49 ke4qqq: oh! 02:18:53 I had no idea ke4qqq was going to be there 02:19:09 quaid: attending on someone elses dime, but yes will be there 02:19:25 ke4qqq: FAD dinner is planned Santa Monica 02:20:26 Anything else for SCaLE? 02:20:33 Yes 02:20:40 oh, hai 02:20:58 the fashionably late herlo, as always :) 02:21:08 I agendized this to put out a call at the 11th hour for any swag folks might want to send 02:21:16 well, you couldn't call me that if I wasn't fashionably late :) 02:21:21 folks = reg ambassadors 02:21:30 lcafiero5: I'll be bringing case badges 02:21:31 lcafiero5: i have stuffs I could send. 02:21:40 We're set with media, case badges 02:21:46 ahhhh cool 02:21:47 lcafiero5: I have a small stack of t-shirts 02:21:50 then I won't 02:21:52 ke4qqq: you going to be at SCaLE? :) 02:21:53 and tattoos 02:21:56 herlo: yep 02:21:58 w00t! 02:22:02 lcafiero5: i have stickers, tattoos, and pens 02:22:18 Need pens and stickers 02:22:30 lcafiero5: I've got pens, if you want 'em 02:22:32 If we don't get 'em, we don't get 'em, but I thought I'd ask. 02:22:34 will send, wont last for all of scale though. 02:22:35 buttons somewhat too 02:22:45 * ke4qqq has no buttons 02:22:50 Also, I'd like to see how the cheat cubes turn out and maybe run off a bunch to hand out. 02:23:04 do that at kinkos out there. 02:23:06 lcafiero5: Cheat cubes? 02:23:13 Right. 02:23:14 i just made a cheat cube they are awesome 02:23:14 thats what we did last year iirc for the media holders. 02:23:25 I remember jds2001 02:23:56 and herlo was making a fool of himself, but when does he not? :D 02:23:59 But that's all I had to say, other than plans have worked out well so far and we're looking forward to quaid wowing the masses on Saturday 02:24:26 Thanks to vwbusguy for doing all the legwork on location. 02:24:28 Is the con being recorded? 02:24:35 makfinsky: yup 02:24:41 I think so, yeah. 02:24:44 Excellent. 02:24:47 lcafiero5: have you printed an of the cubes yet? 02:24:48 makfinsky: yes - but will be weeks if not months after the fact before they are releasesd 02:24:51 released 02:24:55 Not yet. 02:25:08 threethirty: what size paper did you use for them 02:25:10 Will probably go to Kinko's tomorrow 02:25:20 etank: a4 02:25:25 a4 got it. 02:25:37 ok. i was thinking 11x17 card stock 02:25:39 threethirty: why a4? 02:25:55 ke4qqq: im poor and thats all i have 02:26:04 * lcafiero5 is poor too. 02:26:05 Got to love the cube! :) 02:26:11 #link https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Marketing_collateral#Fedora_Cheat_Cubes 02:26:17 Ok, anything else for SCaLE? If not, inode has a couple items to mention. 02:26:19 the cube is awesome 02:26:22 Thanks dramsey. 02:26:23 * ke4qqq didn't know that a4 was very common in the us 02:26:30 I don't have anything else. 02:27:01 #topic Events - TLF revisited 02:27:07 i printed some on letter but i forgot to pick them up out of the printer i will check in the morning 02:27:28 I just forgot to mention that TLF requested that we provide some literature for inclusion in the conference bag 02:27:50 so if any marketing/art/ambassador types would like to help with that it would be greatly appreciated 02:28:04 inode0: make a design-team ticket? 02:28:19 I'm not taking it, I'm asking for help :) 02:28:43 inode0: really? who from TLF? 02:29:09 probably nate but I don't know since the request came to me second hand 02:29:23 when is this literature required? 02:29:41 probably late March/early April 02:30:01 what kind of literatrue are they looking for? 02:30:23 something about Fedora to put in the bag, beyond that I don't know anything 02:30:51 * ke4qqq assumed TLF == The Linux Fund 02:30:51 I expect one of the tri-fold stock things would work well, maybe updated 02:30:55 not Texas LF 02:31:20 ok, one other thing so we can leave events 02:31:30 #link http://us.pycon.org/2010/about/ 02:31:33 #topic Events - PyCon 02:32:06 Several Fedora developers are attending PyCon again this year from the 17th to 25th of this month 02:32:30 Wow, that's a long conference. 02:32:44 I shipped an emergency supply of Fedora goodness to Atlanta for them to lure people into our lair with 02:33:11 Excellent. McStabby volunteered to deliver, correct? 02:33:32 yes, but I shipped to the conference hotel so he is off the hook 02:33:51 Ah, good. 02:34:02 that is all 02:34:06 #topic Budget Review 02:34:06 #link https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/NA/Budget 02:34:19 #topic Budget Review - Fedora Branded USB Key Price Quote 02:34:36 ok, just for the record 02:34:58 I requested a quote from Red Hat's source of USB sticks used at the past couple of summits 02:35:20 those sucked last year, btw. 02:35:34 or rather the year before 02:35:38 The quote I got for Fedora branded 2GB swivel sticks came in around $13.50 - $15.00 02:35:42 the last summit i was it :) 02:36:03 which is a bit pricy for us I think - but there it is 02:36:12 inode0: Wow, that seems pricey. 02:36:21 hmmmm think we can get it in before budget cutoff? 02:36:22 the branding on them is nice 02:36:44 can anyone reach spevack? 02:36:45 * ke4qqq notes there's 16,000 in ambassador budget that will disappear in just a few days 02:36:46 yeah, when you charge $900 for a conference, $15 isnt that much - but for swag, it is :( 02:36:49 inode0: no 02:36:50 inode0: not really 02:37:09 well, let me say something about these 02:37:09 ke4qqq, i think we can do alot cheaper to be truthful 02:37:24 I wasn't thinking about getting them to drop on a table as swag 02:37:30 but I am sure quaid or mchua, or gdk could hook us up with a PO 02:37:55 quaid mentioned giving them to people who asked good questions at a talk and that got me thinking 02:38:10 "Ever filed a bug report?" 02:38:11 +1 great thoughts and ideas. 02:38:13 that it would be nice to just have some around for special uses like that 02:38:22 I agree 02:38:32 inode0: +1 02:38:42 * ke4qqq liked the $nextrelease's idea as well 02:39:16 ke4qqq: well, I have a quote in hand, just need money :) 02:39:39 quaid: ?? 02:40:20 wow, that's a toughie potentially 02:40:40 I'm fairly sure we need spevack for this, and he is deeply out of pocket 02:40:50 at a minimum it would run around $2500 I think 02:40:53 however, if you bounce me the quote I can get it in to his queue, top-center 02:40:59 yeah I know about that - but can gdk help us? 02:41:02 or sometihng 02:41:09 well, I'll do a full-team alert, yes 02:41:09 if not we'll just miss it 02:41:12 quaid: I'll forward it to you 02:41:15 and greg is last seen in RDU 02:41:46 yeah i figure greg is at least in proximity to finance types 02:42:22 #action Need P.O. for USB sticks, inode0 to forward quote to quaid. 02:42:58 USB sticks would be nice for demo'ing spins. 02:43:16 Ok, 5. 02:43:22 4. 02:43:24 3. 02:43:27 2. 02:43:28 1. 02:43:29 #topic Budget Review - Event box for Canada 02:43:55 did we not get that bought? 02:45:00 * ke4qqq sees that my email is still in draft 02:45:21 i thought so but we need the have the people for Canada to respond for certain 02:45:27 Ah, the oft overlooked maintenance. 02:45:54 I'll follow up on the list? 02:46:31 #action ke4qqq will follow up on Event box for Canada. 02:46:34 I think it hasn't been taken care of but isn't really that urgent ... 02:46:55 Unfinished Business Event Box for CA (VileGent, 03:05:21) 02:46:55 1. ACTION: Arsenick arrange with Max to order Pelican 1610 box (VileGent, 03:07:25) 02:46:58 I mean $200 now or later isn't really critical 02:47:28 ok , that will move til March then 02:47:45 Anything else? 02:47:48 5. 02:47:52 4,3,2,1. 02:47:55 #topic Budget Review - T-Shirt order 02:48:26 we have a quote for those also sitting on spevack's desk 02:48:49 Sounds like we are on hold until max returns. 02:48:49 270 shirts came in at $1,783.00 02:49:00 inode0: just order these 02:49:05 it will come out whenever it comes out 02:49:07 inode0: Those are the splatter shirts, yes? 02:49:14 no 02:49:15 no 02:49:18 tshirt people don't demand payment up front 02:49:37 ke4qqq: brian will order them however he and max always do it 02:49:59 ahhh didn't realize it was waiting on demonjester 02:50:13 $7 each seems steep for the white shirts 02:50:26 these as I understand it are blue shirts with I (f) Fedora on the front and the logo on the back 02:50:57 ke4qqq: I think Brian is waiting on Max to say do it 02:51:07 but he just got the quote today I think 02:51:36 ok, but as quaid noted, max is out of pocket for a bit 02:52:16 doesn't know what that means 02:53:04 Ok, anything more? 02:53:07 StabbyMc is also waiting I think on a quote for stickers, or on art or something 02:53:24 unless someone wants to tell me what being out of pocket means 02:53:40 inode0: i think it means unavailable 02:53:47 clings gone out? 02:53:58 inode0: I think it's a military surveillance reference. Means un-reachable. 02:53:59 StabbyMc has them is all I know 02:54:46 #action StabbyMc to send out clings. 02:54:50 should we set StabbyMc up with UPS ... I think so 02:55:02 inode0: I sdent him details already 02:55:11 ok, good 02:55:12 for that very purpose when he was in clemson 02:55:39 #topic Unfinished Business 02:55:39 #topic Unfinished Business - Campus Ambassador Program 02:56:10 just a quick comment that we had a meeting last saturday, biertie is the new sheriff in town 02:56:35 he sent out mail to the list about the next meeting, which is really the first meeting 02:56:54 it would be great if some NA campus ambassadors would attend 02:56:57 awesome! 02:57:16 Ah, if only I could easily get back to campus... 02:58:41 biertie will need help from people in all regions, including NA 02:58:45 I'm done 02:58:53 +1 for help 02:59:12 #link https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Campus_Ambassadors 02:59:17 Thanks inode0 02:59:27 Ok, last but not least. 02:59:28 #topic Open floor 02:59:44 Thinks Scholarship program is way excellent for people... 02:59:47 #link http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Scholarship 03:00:08 eof 03:00:45 dramsey: Where are you now? 03:00:46 Sends power Fedora 12 energy for Scale event... 03:01:03 Coming to U.S. next week...downtown Tokyo now. 03:01:06 Are you still heading up the UMD events on the calendar? 03:01:18 Yup! 03:01:58 Going to visit old coworkers at Nasa Goddard and HQ as well as try to get Campus people to network...sort of two birds with one stone concept... 03:02:06 Excellent, I'll have to hit that up the next time it's not snowing here. 03:02:39 yup, I am sensitive to weather white-out indeed... 03:03:01 +1 03:03:21 Ok, anything else? 03:03:50 Tnak 03:03:53 hank y 03:03:58 Closing meeting in 5. 03:04:00 4. 03:04:01 3. 03:04:02 2. 03:04:04 1. 03:04:05 #endmeeting