16:30:05 <nirik> #startmeeting IRC Support SIG (2010-02-18)
16:30:05 <nirik> #meetingname irc-support-sig
16:30:05 <nirik> #topic init process
16:30:06 <zodbot> Meeting started Thu Feb 18 16:30:05 2010 UTC.  The chair is nirik. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.
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16:30:10 <zodbot> The meeting name has been set to 'irc-support-sig'
16:30:41 <nirik> Who all is around for the meeting?
16:30:50 <DiscordianUK> I am present
16:32:56 * nirik will wait a few min more for folks to wander in.
16:33:02 <nirik> might be just you and me DiscordianUK. ;)
16:33:15 <DiscordianUK> Heh a bit quiet then
16:33:30 <fenris02> 
16:35:01 <nirik> I didn't have too much today anyhow. ;)
16:35:07 <nirik> #topic Week in Review
16:35:22 <nirik> http://fedora.theglaserfamily.org/ircstats/fedora-weekly.html
16:35:28 <nirik> @channelstats #fedora
16:35:28 <fedbot> nirik: On #fedora there have been 162417 messages, containing 6660965 characters, 1167692 words, 4242 smileys, and 5973 frowns; 2116 of those messages were ACTIONs.  There have been 37847 joins, 3174 parts, 34964 quits, 94 kicks, 302 mode changes, and 1 topic change.  There are currently 409 users and the channel has peaked at 609 users.
16:35:45 <nirik> A pretty quiet week from what I can recall...
16:36:24 <DiscordianUK> It has been fairly quiet
16:36:39 <nirik> Anyone have anything from this last week they want to point out or highlight?
16:36:44 <DiscordianUK> Presumably will get busier when the F13 alpha ships
16:36:47 * vwbusguy thinks so
16:37:06 <fenris02> DiscordianUK, tc2 already went out, so far - it's not doing so hot.  many boot problems
16:37:11 <vwbusguy> Well, there's #fedora-qa for that
16:37:46 <DiscordianUK> Indeed
16:37:48 <nirik> well, there is a bit of time until alpha. ;)
16:37:56 <nirik> speaking of which though...
16:38:02 <nirik> #topic Fedora 13
16:38:03 <fenris02> well, -qa until it gets to an rc anhow
16:38:23 <nirik> yeah, we should remember to point people running f13 branched or rawhide to #fedora-qa
16:38:38 <DiscordianUK> Indeed
16:38:39 <nirik> F13 has branched from rawhide now, so there are 2 streams there...
16:38:51 <nirik> but both are not releases/end user ready. ;)
16:38:56 <vwbusguy> And remind them it's for testing purposes
16:38:59 <fenris02> i had meant to ask why they split so early
16:39:01 <DiscordianUK> Indeed
16:39:17 <nirik> it's part of the 'no frozen rawhide'
16:39:25 <nirik> rawhide is now rolling on for f14.
16:39:32 <nirik> it's never stopping now. ;)
16:39:55 <nirik> f13 branched should be getting stabilized for f13 release.
16:40:22 * vwbusguy almost calls it CURRENT, STABLE, and RELEASE
16:40:23 <nirik> So do correct people who ask if f13 is out yet. It's not. Not even alpha.
16:40:34 <DiscordianUK> Noted
16:41:00 <nirik> Anyhow, just wanted to note that. That stuff can go to #fedora-qa in any case. ;)
16:41:11 <autopsy> vwbusguy, I think that is FreeBSD not Fedora.
16:41:27 <DiscordianUK> We're seeing people try and mix and match bits of F12 and Rawhide
16:41:43 <DiscordianUK> expecially for example Firefox
16:41:43 <nirik> DiscordianUK: yeah, people often try that. Doomed usually.
16:42:10 <nirik> Anything more on f13/rawhide issues?
16:42:35 <fenris02> DiscordianUK, ff is sticky due to xulrunner.  i have it built though - just need more space on fp.o
16:42:51 <nirik> remi has it in his repo for the people that must have it.
16:43:06 <DiscordianUK> Yeah I've pointed people at remi's repos
16:43:21 <fenris02> cool
16:44:09 <nirik> oh, and it's not going to be in f12. ff maintainers are not wanting to to a major version upgrade.
16:44:18 <nirik> 12 == ff 3.5.x.
16:44:18 <DiscordianUK> Noted
16:44:31 <nirik> #topic Classes
16:44:47 <nirik> I have slacked lately and haven't done any irc classes... but will likely do a few soon.
16:45:03 <nirik> Anyone interested in teaching a class please see me. ;)
16:45:12 <nirik> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Classroom
16:45:54 <nirik> #topic Open Floor
16:46:00 <nirik> Anyone have anything for open floor?
16:47:04 <DiscordianUK> Is there anything written up for Fedora on Intel Macs?
16:47:34 <DiscordianUK> I've seen a few questions and I've no idea where to start helping
16:47:41 <fenris02> do you know enough about them to write something up?
16:47:49 <DiscordianUK> No never used one
16:47:54 <nirik> DiscordianUK: not sure... the only thing weird about them is using EFI I think.
16:48:18 <DiscordianUK> I think there may be gotchas vis and vis Bootcamp
16:48:32 <DiscordianUK> But that's an impression only
16:48:47 <nirik> yeah, I dont have any here either. ;(
16:48:58 <nirik> we need to find someone with one and time to write stuff up
16:49:08 <DiscordianUK> yeah
16:50:13 <nirik> ok, if nothing else, we will close out the meeting here in a few.
16:52:07 <nirik> Thanks for coming everyone!
16:52:09 <nirik> #endmeeting