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#fedora-meeting: F-13-Alpha engineering readiness meeting
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Meeting started by jlaska at 18:59:18 UTC. The full logs are available
at
http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2010-02-25/fedora-meeting.2010-02-25-18.59.log.html
.



Meeting summary
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* gathering devel, rel-eng and qa reps  (jlaska, 18:59:40)

* intro  (jlaska, 19:06:24)
  * The purpose is to decide whether the alpha has met the release
    criteria  (jlaska, 19:07:38)
  * LINK:
    https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_13_Alpha_Release_Criteria
    (jlaska, 19:07:56)

* Go or No Go  (jlaska, 19:09:02)
  * traditional x86-64 install is broken (bug#568235)  (jlaska,
    19:11:39)
  * live install is broken (bug#565840)  (jlaska, 19:11:44)
  * installing updates is broken (bug#568193 bug#567346)  (jlaska,
    19:12:12)
  * QA votes 'no go' - citing additional testing against remaining
    F13Alpha blockers and walking the Alpha test matrix  (jlaska,
    19:31:42)
  * Rel-Eng votes 'no go' - reluctant considering how close we are and
    that the next RC will likely be the final  (jlaska, 19:32:28)
  * Devel votes 'no go' - notting cited the current data and matrix
    results, dcbw cited importance of installing  (jlaska, 19:34:26)

* contingency plan  (jlaska, 19:41:15)
  *
    https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Engineering_Readiness_Meetings#Contingency_Plan
    indicates a 1 week slip as a contingency plan  (jlaska, 19:41:35)
  * Oxf13 notes that with No Frozen Rawhide (NFR), we no longer have the
    pressure valves from previous releases.  Developing (rawhide) and
    testing (f-13-updates-testing) can continue  (jlaska, 19:52:32)
  * IDEA: Do not slip Beta/Final milestone dates, due to NFR not
    shorting developers on development time.  (Oxf13, 19:53:26)
  * AGREED: decided to absorb the slip and not move the F-13 release out
    by one week (future slips may incur a cost)  (jlaska, 19:58:30)
  * ACTION: Oxf13 will announce the slip to (devel-)announce  (Oxf13,
    19:59:50)
  * ACTION: stickster will update schedule pages and poke poelcat about
    TJ  (Oxf13, 20:00:42)
  * ACTION: stickster will re-schedule release readiness meeting
    (Oxf13, 20:01:25)
  * ACTION: QA - continue testing RC4 when available and verifying
    remaining F13Alpha bugs  (jlaska, 20:04:04)

Meeting ended at 20:05:09 UTC.




Action Items
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* Oxf13 will announce the slip to (devel-)announce
* stickster will update schedule pages and poke poelcat about TJ
* stickster will re-schedule release readiness meeting
* QA - continue testing RC4 when available and verifying remaining
  F13Alpha bugs




Action Items, by person
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* Oxf13
  * Oxf13 will announce the slip to (devel-)announce
* stickster
  * stickster will update schedule pages and poke poelcat about TJ
  * stickster will re-schedule release readiness meeting
* **UNASSIGNED**
  * QA - continue testing RC4 when available and verifying remaining
    F13Alpha bugs




People Present (lines said)
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* jlaska (102)
* Oxf13 (86)
* stickster (39)
* adamw (24)
* ajax (7)
* dlehman (5)
* zodbot (5)
* dcbw (4)
* notting (3)
* nirik (2)
* clumens (1)
* mchua (1)




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