05:04:59 <tagoh3> #startmeeting i18n
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05:05:29 <tagoh3> hi guys, time for i18n meeting here
05:06:14 <paragan> hi
05:06:18 <tagoh3> #topic roll call
05:06:23 <tagoh3> paragan: hi
05:06:38 <tagoh3> who else joining today?
05:07:39 <tagoh3> today's agenda: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/I18N/Meetings/2010-03-18
05:08:49 <paragan> We got F13 Alpha released now
05:08:59 <paragan> Do we got any bugs after that?
05:10:06 <tagoh3> not really
05:10:09 <pravins> hi
05:10:31 <tagoh3> let's get started through the agenda first
05:10:43 <tagoh3> #topic f13
05:10:51 <paragan> sure
05:11:40 <epico_laptop> hi
05:11:56 <tagoh3> we are going to beta freeze, upcoming next Tuesday
05:12:55 <paragan> looks less time given for Beta fixes
05:13:06 <tagoh3> it's good to go through bugzilla again and see if there are any important bugs we are missing
05:13:19 <tagoh3> paragan: right
05:14:03 <paragan> I see one blocker bug is open for F13.
05:15:10 <tagoh3> sure. I thought juhp removed from comps for a workaround? dunno.
05:15:48 <paragan> ok
05:15:49 <tagoh3> let's ping him on bz if there are any further actions on it before beta.
05:16:20 <paragan> sure
05:17:25 <paragan> then we have fontconfig bug for F13Target
05:17:33 <tagoh3> right
05:17:50 <tagoh3> I should have a time to have a look more..
05:18:34 <tagoh3> let me take any actions for them this week
05:19:54 <paragan> ah! netsplit
05:20:20 <tagoh3> network seems unstable ;)
05:21:11 <tagoh3> any bugs we need to pay attentions more?
05:22:17 <tagoh3> I see some indic related bugs are filed say.
05:22:34 <paragan> I think most of indic bugs are waiting for next pango upstream release
05:22:41 <paragan> tagoh3, yes right
05:22:45 <tagoh3> aha
05:23:06 <tagoh3> need to ask behdad if we have any chance to see them?
05:23:18 <tagoh3> are those fixed in upstream already?
05:24:27 <paragan> yeah most of them are fixed as we saw behdad committed Unicode 5.1 and Indic Backspace behaviour patches
05:24:44 <tagoh3> cool
05:25:00 <paragan> we are waiting for next pango release in Fedora and then we again test and close them.
05:25:12 <tagoh3> okay
05:25:59 <tagoh3> #topic Splitting TC and SC
05:26:11 <tagoh3> epico_laptop: any updates for that?
05:26:19 <epico_laptop> not yet.
05:27:39 <tagoh3> epico_laptop: need to settle about the font thing?
05:28:35 <epico_laptop> tagoh3: I saw your mail. currently Chinese fonts aren't strictly follow the Package:FontPolicy.
05:28:53 <epico_laptop> tagoh3: fangqq's conf doesn't follow it either.
05:29:00 <tagoh3> I suppose we need to make any decision before beta.
05:29:37 <epico_laptop> will try some new conf on F-13 alpha.
05:29:57 <epico_laptop> I guess so. no decision yet.
05:30:27 <tagoh3> epico_laptop: partially yes -- his primary point would be to use centralized-managing 65-nonlatin.conf
05:31:00 <epico_laptop> tagoh3: yes. and just for zh and ja -  a special centralized list.
05:31:13 <epico_laptop> tagoh3: 65-nonlatin.conf is for the rest.
05:31:26 <tagoh3> though strictly it's irrelevant to this topic
05:33:05 * tagoh3 is trying to remember bug#
05:33:40 <tagoh3> epico_laptop: do you have? :)
05:34:01 <epico_laptop> tagoh3: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=568613
05:34:24 <tagoh3> epico_laptop: thanks
05:34:24 <epico_laptop> tagoh3: welcome.
05:36:20 <tagoh3> epico_laptop: hmm, dunno if it's really feasible in f13.
05:37:13 <epico_laptop> tagoh3: The initial changes is influenced by fangqq. but it seems no decision yet.
05:37:46 <tagoh3> wonder if we should keep comps without splitting.
05:38:55 <tagoh3> epico_laptop: let's pick up the remaining tasks for that and figure out if we can go or no-go.
05:39:11 <epico_laptop> tagoh3: ok.
05:39:23 <tagoh3> let's move on.
05:39:28 <tagoh3> # Fonts
05:39:31 <tagoh3> #topic Fonts
05:42:07 <tagoh3> So we have a bit talk about things above. still ongoing some font related target bugs.
05:43:37 <tagoh3> pravins seems getting trouble on the server splitting -- I see he is working on the ascent/descent issues on lohit
05:45:44 <tagoh3> I see some fonts bugs related to the policy. it would be nice to see those fixes in f13 too
05:46:05 <tagoh3> anything else about fonts?
05:48:09 <tagoh3> okay, you can bring anything up on IRC or the list later if you have anything. let's move on so far.
05:48:14 <tagoh3> #topic Input Methods
05:48:41 <tagoh3> phuang, fujiwarat, dychen_: any updates if you like?
05:49:28 <fujiwarat> I update ibus-anthy for f13.
05:49:45 <dychen_> tagoh3, fix a couple of ibus-chewing issue, busy on development of MakerDialog and flies.
05:50:19 <tagoh3> fujiwarat: improvements and bug fixes? cool
05:50:56 <tagoh3> dychen_: I see
05:51:03 <phuang> Fixed some bugs of ibus-pinyin for f13
05:52:00 <fujiwarat> It seems there are two wiki pages.
05:52:13 <fujiwarat> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Docs/Beats/I18n
05:52:15 <tagoh3> dychen_: any loves for FTBFS issue on UnihanDb btw? :)
05:52:20 <fujiwarat> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Documentation_I18n_Beat
05:53:22 <dychen_> tagoh3: The fastest way to solve that is pack the prebuilt binary.
05:53:30 <tagoh3> fujiwarat: Docs/Betas/I18n is old url. it's automatically redirected to Documentation_I18n_Beat I think.
05:53:57 <fujiwarat> ok
05:54:38 <tagoh3> phuang: cool. no major bugs in ibus on f13 so far?
05:54:48 <tagoh3> dychen_: aha
05:55:07 <dychen_> tagoh3: Anyway, I will start tackling that next week.
05:55:16 <phuang> yeah
05:55:17 <tagoh3> dychen_: okay. thanks!
05:55:36 <tagoh3> phuang: great :)
05:57:36 <tagoh3> hmm, ah missed this topic.. thanks fujiwarat for reminding me..
05:58:27 <tagoh3> yeah, just for quick reminder if we are still missing any topics on relnotes, please have a look at https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Documentation_I18n_Beat and add if we are missing something there.
05:59:32 <tagoh3> #topic open space
05:59:55 <tagoh3> well, we are running the meeting over time a bit.
06:00:17 <tagoh3> anything else topics you want to raise here?
06:01:53 <tagoh3> if not, let's close the meeting shortly.
06:03:24 <tagoh3> thanks all participants for the meeting.
06:03:39 <tagoh3> #endmeeting