01:00:06 #startmeeting 01:00:07 Meeting started Wed Apr 7 01:00:06 2010 UTC. The chair is StabbyMc. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 01:00:08 Useful Commands: #action #agreed #halp #info #idea #link #topic. 01:00:11 .fas dramsey 01:00:11 dramsey: dramsey 'David Ramsey' 01:00:17 We're going to nix rollcall. 01:00:26 Okay, sorry 01:00:36 it's been off the agenda page for a while and inode0 has been wanting it gone. 01:00:37 * inode0 cheers 01:00:42 ok 01:00:44 dramsey: no probs :-) 01:00:53 #topic Fedora Ambassadors NA Meeting 01:01:10 If you'd like a link to the meeting page to play at home: 01:01:11 #link https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Meeting:Ambassadors_2010-4-7 01:01:22 #topic Fedora Ambassadors NA Meeting - Announcements 01:01:29 Any announcements? 01:01:41 Fedora elections begin later this month 01:01:55 So if you want to run for the board or fesco start deciding :) 01:02:11 * jds2001 just started new $DAYJOB :) 01:02:23 nice announcement jds2001 :) 01:02:26 * rbergeron claps for jds2001 01:02:27 Congratulations. :) 01:02:36 ? what is fesco 01:02:42 .fas Arsenick 01:02:43 Arsenick: arsenick 'René Jr Purcell' 01:02:48 .fas jfsaucier 01:02:49 fedora engineering steering committee 01:02:49 djf_jeff: jfsaucier 'Jean-Francois Saucier' 01:02:50 Fedora Engineering Steering Committee 01:02:54 No roll call. 01:02:55 yah john 01:03:00 congrats jds2001 01:03:03 We're going to be doing away with it. 01:03:11 (but not jds2001) 01:03:33 Other announcements? 01:03:53 how will u know who is present with out roll call ? 01:03:56 inode0: has there been a wiki page made up for the upcoming elections? 01:04:16 yes, just a sec 01:04:19 StabbyMc, May I know why we stop roll call ? 01:04:23 your IRC client should tell you whos here 01:04:42 and the meeting logs have a list. 01:04:44 http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Elections <- still has a bit of cruft on links 01:04:55 * rrix says hi 01:05:00 It's more that it takes 5 - 10 minutes, people who are late interject it into existing discussions, and really, what do we do with that data? 01:05:20 Plus inode0 convinced me that it wasn't really necessary. 01:05:22 the meeting summary shows who spoke, which is basically the same as attendance, I guess. 01:05:27 toward the end of the month I'll start recruiting moderators for town halls (or early next) 01:05:40 inode0: sign me up 01:05:53 * rbergeron grins 01:05:54 +1 inode0 01:05:57 inode0: me too 01:06:07 he waiting until the schedules are up to see who can fit in with the schedules. :) 01:06:12 * rbergeron is already on that volunteer list as well 01:06:17 * inode0 suggests waiting until we know when they are and if you can be there :) 01:06:36 Announcements, anyone else got 'em? 01:06:56 Oh, as an aside, I'm trying to limit meetings to no longer than 1 hour :-) 01:07:01 inode0: You can count me on the elections if you need me 01:07:28 Announcements take 3? 01:07:33 +1 for 1 hour rule 01:07:45 #topic Fedora Ambassadors NA Meeting - Event Reports (or lack thereof) 01:07:58 if we got down to business this would only take an hour 01:08:19 ?LFNW 01:08:20 let's pause and discuss the 1 hour rule for another 15 minutes 01:08:24 So I don't know who added the quip at the end there, but apparently they ahve something to say. 01:08:31 I added it 01:08:34 but go ahead StabbyMc 01:08:45 * StabbyMc yeilds the floor to ke4qqq 01:09:18 so long story short - our sponsor likes seeing what their investment got them. They give us a VERY free hand with how we spend our money 01:09:45 and it makes life much easier when we need even more budget 01:09:51 is this self or...? 01:10:05 when we can point to what we have been doing with daddy shadowman's money 01:10:07 rrix: lack of events reports 01:10:26 in NA last month we had 6 events - when I started the tally of events at the end of the month 01:10:32 only one event had a report 01:10:42 spevack: you got my $2000 strip club bill? 01:10:49 will they ever hold events in western Canada 01:10:51 * rrix shuts it and goes to read the agenda 01:10:51 missing event reports are a bit easier to notice now with the famsco monthly reports including them 01:10:56 StabbyMc: do we look like the RNC to you? 01:11:01 a number of those made it up quickly, but lets make sure we get those timely filed to both f-a-l and the planet 01:11:09 EOF 01:11:36 ke4qqq: understood. 01:11:46 Understood, documentation for justification, that makes sense. :) 01:12:05 .fas makfinsky 01:12:06 makfinsky: makfinsky 'Ivan Makfinsky' 01:12:12 So any events not getting someone that should, or any upcoming events with needs that are not being met? 01:12:22 .fasinfo etank 01:12:23 PICC needs someone 01:12:23 etank: User: etank, Name: Eric Lake, email: ericlake@gmail.com, Creation: 2009-11-22, IRC Nick: etank, Timezone: America/New_York, Locale: en, Extension: 5140933, GPG key ID: 5A5151D6, Status: active 01:12:27 etank: Approved Groups: fedorabugs triagers ambassadors cla_done cla_fedora 01:12:27 * ke4qqq nudges jds2001 01:12:28 hi all, sry for being late :-( 01:12:34 No roll call anymore :-) 01:13:12 what is PICC 01:13:25 Events take 2: Any upcoming events of note, or events that need stuff that haven't gotten it? 01:13:27 http://picconf.org/ 01:13:32 think of it as a regional LISA 01:13:36 in NY/NJ 01:14:21 stickster sent an email to f-a-l about it a week or two ago 01:14:39 ke4qqq: stpierre is a lopsa instructor and was planning to attend but something came up 01:15:07 jds2001: any chance you can go? 01:15:09 ke4qqq: ? 01:15:11 this is relatively close by 01:15:21 where and when? 01:15:22 jds2001: picconf.org 01:15:25 if this is all everyone talks about, I have better things todo 01:15:42 New Brunswick NJ May 7-8 01:15:42 wiki updated waiting news about box and how or whom to submit budget 01:16:33 crossbytes, email me the address you want the vbanners to please 01:16:35 crossbytes: spevack is here, but lets push that to the budget part of the agenda. 01:16:36 * inode0 scratches his head 01:17:08 * spevack has 3 topics for general discussion, and will mention them at the appropriate times 01:17:12 Events take 3... 01:17:22 StabbyMc: texas linux fest? 01:17:58 spevack: is it something that requires discussion, or have last minute needs? 01:17:59 i *might* be able to do that. 01:18:07 at least saturday for sure. 01:18:34 spevack: TLF has been a topic of discussion and coordination for the last few meetings. 01:18:38 Well, the status (at least from the POV of the wiki) is blocking on Scott Collier and Adam Miller, but I don't think either of them are here. 01:18:56 StabbyMc: As long as the event box made it -- and I saw some chatter that it will be there on Wednesday -- we're all set. 01:19:01 maxamillion is not here. 01:19:18 I talked to Adam and he has the flyer prepared and is trying to figure out who needs them when 01:19:21 spevack: do you know where the event box was coming from? 01:19:38 StabbyMc, yes 01:19:43 /me thinks it was coming from southern_gentlem 01:19:47 inode0: what does "figure out who needs them when" mean? I can print them out in the office if necessary. 01:20:03 jds2001, ke4qqq: I might be able to join you up there(for sat). 01:20:13 spevack: our understanding was TLF was going to include them in the conference bag 01:20:17 VileGent: so shipped, expected Wednesday, everything is good? 01:20:19 ah.... :) 01:20:23 so they need to get printed and then get to someone 01:20:29 StabbyMc, v-Banners was delivered april 1st, event box will be delivered tomorrow april 7th 01:20:53 inode0: well, I'll drop adam a note and print some out myself as well, to have at our table. 01:20:57 EOF on TLF :) 01:21:05 #topic Fedora Ambassadors NA Meeting - Fedora Ambassador Day 01:21:15 inode0: the floor is yours 01:21:49 Ok, I really just wanted to suggest where a bunch of us would be that we set up an IRC meeting about logistics 01:21:54 #link https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FAD_NA_2010 01:22:21 * ke4qqq would like to suggest more people consider attending 01:22:29 is part of logistics setting up an agenda? assuming the agenda isn't just "robyn will school you all in pool" :) 01:22:35 I am planning on being there. 01:22:44 * rbergeron thinks having an agenda leads to people having reasons to attend.... 01:22:55 * inode0 is guilty of being terribly behind on updating the wiki 01:23:02 and/or seeing ways they can contribute... 01:23:31 but some people planning to come seem to be planning to come on Friday, and we need to all get on the same page 01:23:48 * rbergeron notes that there is a spot on the wiki for agenda and we should probably start putting ideas there. 01:24:23 inode0: what is the actual dates of when we'll be actually meeting? 01:24:23 yes, and quite a bit of "standard" ambassador planning goes there but I've been derelict in my duties 01:24:24 * ke4qqq would really like to see clear deliverables that would benefit from us meeting IRL 01:25:13 * rbergeron apologizes for terribad grammar... jeez 01:25:18 the original suggestion was Friday/Saturday full workdays with maybe half of Sunday 01:25:24 inode0: im interested in coming 01:25:43 dgilmore: you are more than welcome and we might be able to give you a ride 01:25:55 so - arrive thursday, leave sunday evening / monday morning depending on where you're going, if there are flights. 01:26:39 inode0: someone coming from indiana wouldnt be horribly out of the way 01:26:56 especially from indianapolis 01:26:58 dgilmore: we have a driver from south bend 01:27:08 thats not really close 01:27:19 we can talk with him 01:27:30 :) anyway i wont disrupt more 01:27:32 pcalarco and threethirty i think are both coming from indiana 01:28:01 ok, can we do this in fedora-planning sometime soon so we don't eat this whole meeting? 01:28:05 so: logistics meeting friday? can we tie agenda into that a bit and/or put ideas/ schedule into the wiki 01:28:08 yes :) 01:28:16 or whatever that channel is now? 01:28:39 what it is? 01:28:51 fedora-fad? 01:29:44 not sure - we can figure it out offline probably and send a meeting notice, yes? 01:29:48 * inode0 will email all those signed up + dgilmore and try to meet up on thu or fri sometime 01:30:50 Sounds good. 01:31:10 if the people here who would be coming can pm me with suggestions for good times I'd appreciate it 01:31:40 FAD take 2... 01:31:45 * inode0 yields back the floor 01:32:02 FAD take 3 ... 01:32:14 #topic Fedora Ambassadors NA Meeting - Budget Review 01:32:19 #topic Fedora Ambassadors NA Meeting - Budget Review 01:32:39 spevack: i'm guessing this is the appropriate time you've been waiting for? 01:32:44 * inode0 can report that t-shirts have been ordered by Brian 01:33:05 I got stickers last week. 01:33:08 They look good. 01:33:43 StabbyMc: well, let's see. 01:33:49 TLF was 1 thing, which we discussed. 01:34:12 Tshirts was the other, which have been ordered. I'll circle back with Brian regarding paying that bill. 01:34:34 And the 3rd was FAD 01:34:37 so my agenda is clear :) 01:34:54 sweet. 01:34:57 ?LFNW whom do I submit budget? 01:35:18 crossbytes: the wiki? 01:35:23 crossbytes: to the regional meeting, AIUI :) 01:35:36 this meeting :) 01:36:55 crossbytes: if it's more than 500 including sponsorship create a wiki page 01:37:03 regardles bring the total here 01:37:14 the people here approve/modify/deny your budget requests 01:37:15 https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/LinuxFest_Northwest_%28LFNW%29_2010 01:37:41 For Linux Fest Northwest 2010, $1,060 is requested 01:37:53 crossbytes: awesome 01:39:04 so just for those who are new - a lot of this is a no brainer - there's http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Sponsoring_event_attendees this wiki page to consider when funding individuals and travel/lodging 01:39:59 crossbytes: you good? 01:40:34 the main question is if we will have event box in time Larry says it should go to him then us..so should wow that link is great thank you 01:40:56 we have three event boxes 01:40:59 why is that an issue? 01:42:15 * inode0 is pretty sure lcafiero has a handle on this but we can touch base with him to make sure 01:42:32 crossbytes: if it's a problem let us know - we'll figure something out 01:42:46 need to know if should burn media? and if olpc is in box was going to show off collaborative software of olpc but need to make sure running same build and sugar versions 01:42:52 crossbytes, and when i get your address i will ship the V-Banners from tLF on monday 01:43:25 perfect will e-mail address after meeting. 01:43:38 Budget Review going twice... 01:43:39 we can ship leftover media from TLF up there too I think if there is any 01:43:40 crossbytes: have you requested media in the famna tracker? 01:44:16 I might have about 100 pieces of live media left which I can send if you think you need it (will leave me bone dry) 01:44:54 * ke4qqq would rather us run out of media than have it left laying around 01:45:05 of course 01:45:12 Budget going thrice 01:45:21 no was told that the event box will be replenished so I did not want to request until F13 01:45:39 crossbytes: ok 01:45:43 #topic Fedora Ambassadors NA Meeting - Open Floor 01:45:46 * inode0 suggests checking with larry to see what he actually has then 01:46:18 crossbytes: +1 to what inode0 said - if he doesn't have enough to cover you - ask on list we'll find it somewhere for you 01:46:37 I did some outreach today and visited the Melbourne, FL LUG. Handed out 6 or so install dvds. 01:46:39 ok will do thank you 01:47:02 makfinsky +1 01:47:03 I still have maybe 20 or so 32 and 64bit install dvds. 01:47:12 I am have been trying this year being Logistics person for the banners and EC Event box 01:47:13 makfinsky: good stuff. 01:47:25 makfinsky: awesome 01:47:34 crossbytes: Let me know if you need for lfnw, I'll see about sending more your way. 01:47:35 so - just to toss out as an idea 01:47:53 +1 01:48:01 I am planning on visiting with them for their next three meetings as I will be here through the end of apr. 01:48:14 dramsey suggests within two months for Fedora 13, I have been doing planning and preparation for Release Events Fedora 13 as well as media, too. :) 01:48:14 https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Releases/13/Schedule may be Fedora 13 Release Events as a future agenda item to consider. 01:48:20 I have been the EC regional ambassador since we had the role - and am thinking it's time to pass that role on to someone else. is anyone interested in the idea of handling and shipping lots of swag? 01:48:39 -1 01:48:49 EC =? Event Coordinator 01:48:55 makfinsky: East Coast 01:48:55 east coast :) 01:48:58 really Southeast 01:49:07 since it is open floor I'll add something here 01:49:21 we are also working on Release Event for F13 I think it is going to be a GREAT Release.. 01:49:33 5 people have been doing this for years now and I think most would appreciate a break 01:49:44 ke4qqq: Going to be having baby and moving this year... can't take on too much more here. 01:50:21 so consider the invitation as open to anyone anywhere who would like to help us 01:51:01 we prefer someone in that region - as it makes shipping slightly cheaper, and it gets you faster turn around. I can ship basically anywhere in the southeast and get one or two day service with ground. 01:51:04 * rbergeron suggests an email and blog post to find potential shippers o swag. :) 01:51:30 ke4qqq: of course, but if someone in the midwest wants to help I'll do a happy dance 01:52:06 EOF from me 01:52:43 +1 crossbytes 01:53:03 understood ke4qqq 01:53:24 I participated in my first Fedora Test Day and thought it was a great experience 01:53:39 I learned about stuff I don't normally use and helped with QA 01:53:42 win win 01:53:48 +1 Great stuff! 01:53:53 please try to participate in one if you can 01:54:00 Next one is tomorrow... https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Day:2010-04-08_Virtualization 01:54:01 inode0: +1 Ah yes! I need to add some of those to my calendar. 01:54:17 Speak of the devil... :) 01:55:17 Schedule of Fedora 13 Test Days https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Category:Fedora_13_Test_Days 01:55:30 i am running 'up to date f13' would i still be able to to the test days? we have several different computers to test on(about 30) 01:55:40 yes 01:55:45 Wow! 01:56:36 Wouldn't an "up to date" F13 box be f13 beta? 01:57:04 Ok, we're closing in on the end of our time tonight, 01:57:10 i am not sure it is up to date as this morning.. I think beta is little older 01:57:15 anyone got a last couple of items? 01:57:30 crossbytes, beta is not released yet 01:57:42 rc4 is iirc 01:57:46 there are beta rc candidates 01:57:53 wow, recursive sentence there 01:58:03 ke4qqq, address to send eventbox from TLF please 01:58:33 if this all you guys are going to talk about I think I have better things to do now :) 01:58:39 * rbergeron has deja vu 01:59:04 like go back to crying about the end of the basketball game 01:59:09 inode0: that was kinda funny 01:59:10 DUKE! 01:59:31 VileGent: asking for it now 01:59:40 inode0: Ha! 01:59:52 that was a good game! 02:00:03 tongihts WBB champ is just ugly 02:00:11 Not the b-ball game - the deja vu comment. 02:00:17 :) Thank you StabbyMc for chairing. :) 02:00:37 Ok that's meeting! 02:00:40 #endmeeting