20:05:44 #startmeeting Ambassadors EMEA Meeting 2010-04-14 20:05:44 Meeting started Wed Apr 14 20:05:44 2010 UTC. The chair is liknus. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 20:05:46 Useful Commands: #action #agreed #halp #info #idea #link #topic. 20:05:57 #topic RollCall 20:06:00 .fas cmpahar 20:06:04 cmpahar: cmpahar 'Christos Bacharakis' 20:06:05 it;s on the topic guys :) 20:06:12 .fas ppapadeas 20:06:13 liknus: ppapadeas 'Papadeas Pierros' 20:06:14 Joerg Simon 20:06:15 Christoph Wickert 20:06:18 Marcus Moeller 20:06:26 Mathieu Bridon 20:06:30 Onyeibo Oku 20:06:34 Zoltan Hoppar 20:06:37 .fas sspreitzer 20:06:39 sspreitzer: sspreitzer 'Sascha Thomas Spreitzer' 20:06:48 .fas heffer 20:06:49 heffer: heffer 'Felix Kaechele' 20:07:12 Ok, welcome all to our today's meeting :) 20:07:15 Amit Caleechurn 20:07:25 Our todays agenda can befound here http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Meeting:EMEA_Ambassadors_2010-4-14 20:07:26 ! Kevin Raymond 20:07:30 #link http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Meeting:EMEA_Ambassadors_2010-4-14 20:07:44 so lets start with the announcements 20:07:48 #topic Announcements 20:08:05 kital, anything from FAmSCo ? 20:08:23 #chair kital 20:08:24 some quick notes 20:08:24 Current chairs: kital liknus 20:08:40 the monthly famsco report for march is out 20:08:46 .fas linuxthomass 20:08:47 d3vnull: linuxthomass 'Isaac Sanni-Thomas' 20:08:50 http://susmit.fedorapeople.org/report/famsco_report_mar_2010.html 20:09:34 and tatica could need some help with her topic things to show on your laptop during an event 20:09:40 https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Tatica/Laptop_show 20:09:59 next famsco meeting on monday will discuss two important topics 20:10:08 Campus Ambassador Business 20:10:20 discussing http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/campus-ambassadors/2010-April/000070.html 20:10:34 and Call for action to F13 Release Parties 20:10:36 eof 20:10:45 Nice job done from FAmSCo :) Thanks kital... 20:11:03 We should start preparing for f13 Parties as it seems :) 20:11:18 Anyone else that wants to make an announcement 20:11:19 ? 20:11:38 * giannisk is here..sorry for the delay but I had some important thing to do 20:11:51 ! 20:12:01 zoltanh7211, go ahead my friend :) 20:12:23 Well, I am preparing the release video of F13 20:12:55 we have already started working on fudcon emea planning (a while back :)) and would like you to register if you are willed to help / and or to attend. 20:12:55 I have made contact with 20:13:32 www.spacesoundrecords.com 20:13:32 we are still looking for ideas for hackfests and session tracks. 20:13:34 (marcus thanks for the info and please respect IRC meeting code) 20:13:56 and thaey have granted to use of their song what we need 20:14:50 On second, we are talking and thinking about to making some video shots with Nelson Marques 20:15:13 these will be 60 secs short spots 20:15:44 .fas mrtom :s 20:15:45 MrTom: 'mrtom :s' Not Found! 20:15:45 I have also begun to make the new LiveUSB creator station poster 20:15:48 .fas mrtom 20:15:49 MrTom: mrtomtes 'Thomas Canniot' - mrtom 'Thomas Canniot' 20:16:08 ! 20:16:17 On third - 20:17:12 I have made an contact with an company called Corrad, they are making flags, and other stuff for events 20:17:43 Max knows it, and I'm now getting the whole prise list 20:17:46 eof 20:17:50 Nice zoltanh7211 we definately want to see some sneak peak from that videos :) 20:17:50 Heya, I'm sorry, I'm slightly late. 20:18:08 And we are waiting for news from the company you refered 20:18:16 bochecha, go ahead 20:18:40 zoltanh7211, about « the new LiveUSB creator station poster », is that what you're talking about? http://opossum1er.fedorapeople.org/Live USB/live_usb_2.jpg 20:18:59 if that is, sources are available as well: http://opossum1er.fedorapeople.org/Live USB/ 20:19:09 eof 20:19:19 zoltanh7211, 20:19:39 (that's what we've been using here for a couple of releases, if you like it, go ahead and grab it :) 20:20:18 (i have used it many times too) 20:21:15 ok 20:21:19 bochecha: It's great, but nobody knows that, and isn't uploaded to marketing wiki where are the others, and isn't F13 specific 20:21:53 zoltanh7211, it's not F13 specific *on purpose*: we can reuse it this way 20:22:19 about the fact that it's not on the marketing wiki, yeah, I've been bugging Carlos to show his work more, but he's too shy I guess :) 20:22:51 dont ask for permission bochecha :) Just do it... 20:23:09 I want him to assume the fact that he is a great designer ;) 20:23:14 (or i shouldadd them myslef) 20:23:29 bochecha, the ambassadors section as well 20:23:37 bochecha: Let it happen, I will need that on my next event 20:24:14 #action liknus and bochecha adds the Carlos' work on the Marketing wiki 20:24:17 ok bochecha ? 20:24:21 yup 20:24:30 bochecha: SVG? 20:24:36 zoltanh7211, it's in the folder 20:24:40 .fas dmaphy 20:24:41 dmaphy: dmaphy 'Dominic Hopf' 20:24:42 thx 20:24:48 sorry for being late 20:25:27 ok lets move on to our events 20:25:35 #topic Events 20:25:51 #link http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FedoraEvents#FY11_Q1_.28March_2010_-_May_2010.29_2 20:25:55 ! 20:26:08 cmpahar, go ahead for Fosscomm next week :) 20:26:25 thank you liknus 20:27:03 Next weekend 24-25 of April in Thessaloniki we are organizing the biggest FOSS Conference named Fosscomm. 20:27:17 this year fosscomm it will be something like a small FOSDEM. We have 46 talks and the 2 of them will be about Fedora. 20:27:52 One talk from me and Pierros (liknus) about and one workshop from Pierros and constanton (Antonakoglou Kostas). 20:28:22 Additionally fedora will have the biggest booth with a lot of surprises. 20:28:40 Event owner is me and I am in the organization committee of fosscomm 2010 too. 20:28:50 #link http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FedoraEvents/Fosscomm2010 20:28:58 #link http://thessaloniki.fosscomm.gr/index.php/Program 20:29:04 the wiki page must be updated 20:29:29 we are excepting over 300 people, because the conference is taking place 20:29:41 #action cmpahar updates the Fosscomm wiki 20:29:47 in the downtown of the thessaloniki city 20:29:56 thanks liknus for the action item 20:30:29 i am very positive that fedora will spark for one more time here in Greece 20:30:52 i think it's time for liknus to say about our swag 20:30:53 thanks 20:30:56 eof 20:30:58 We will make sure it does :) 20:31:52 Also i should tell that the Greek team is having an IRC meeting every second Thursday and we are organizing very well on that 20:32:18 Moving on to our next event 20:32:39 ! i have something to add at the very end of the Events topic 20:32:59 heffer, go ahead 20:33:48 FrOSCon is in August, so there still is lots of time left. but i just wanted to say that the Call For Papers was opened on April 12 and I already registered for a booth there 20:34:02 also see: 20:34:06 #link https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FrOSCon_2010 20:34:15 ! 20:34:43 nice heffer :) we should fedora-rock this event too 20:34:44 i will be sending out an announcement to the mailing lists and planet soon 20:34:58 Any particular thoughts on talking? 20:35:33 for talks? not sure yet. we'll see what surfaces until then 20:35:50 Ok just make sure we are in-deadline 20:35:50 cwickert, on the topic of FrOSCon? 20:36:03 * cwickert will likely have a talk @FrOSCOn, but it's about kolab and not about Fedora. maybe a bit about kolab on Fedora 20:36:08 definitely. i managed FrOSCon quite well last year I believe :) 20:37:28 OK.. heffer just keep us updated on the FrOSCon :) 20:37:48 sure. it's a very nice event :D 20:37:51 please remember to use "eof" after you finished talking 20:37:52 +1 20:38:36 So on our next event 20:38:40 #link http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/LinuxexpoPrague2010 20:38:40 ! 20:38:47 on Prague 20:39:31 Is Covek or Marek here? 20:39:46 nope I guess.. 20:39:55 Anyway on our next event 20:39:56 giallu, 20:40:03 sorry,.. giannisk i ment 20:40:11 thanks liknus 20:40:43 i would like to mention that i will give a speech about fedora in my scholl,in Thessaloniki (Greece) 20:40:59 there will be a presentation for about 20 minutes 20:41:16 That's very nice giannisk :) You got everything you need? 20:41:22 and then I will hand some live cds and flyers 20:41:40 cmpahar is going to provide me with the flyers i requested 20:42:00 and i would like to thank all of you who helped me :) 20:42:29 Our pleasure giannisk :) 20:42:29 i still haven's created a wiki page due to lack of time 20:42:38 but i will create it soon 20:42:41 * cmpahar you are welcome giannisk . Anytime. Just for the record giannisk is 15 years old! 20:42:47 eof from me :) 20:42:49 nice 20:43:01 #action giannisk creates a wiki page on his event in school 20:43:13 #action giannisk reports on his events :) 20:43:27 Anytime you need help giannisk we are here ! 20:43:34 * giannisk will do,will do thanks 20:44:32 eof? 20:45:06 yes,i already typed 'eof' 20:45:24 sorry giannisk :)thanks 20:45:30 zoltanh7211, on our next event 20:45:34 #link http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Linuxwochen_Wien_2010 20:45:53 Yes, I'm the owner of this event 20:46:25 Can you tell us a little bit on that? 20:46:33 Any talk any booth etc? 20:46:39 Any material needed? 20:46:42 Currently it is nicely having everything on at at booth 20:47:05 I will be there with Fabian 20:47:28 and we will make talks about F13 and more 20:47:42 Currently they are in Calling for Papers 20:48:17 I'm in contact with Daniel who helps me to organise the event 20:48:48 We are awainting a lot of people, because of this is the biggest city here 20:49:19 the gates are opening after 10, and closing late 20:00 20:49:48 I have asked for some tshirts 20:49:57 ticket is filled 20:50:07 and some buttons 20:50:26 I have some discs, and I give also flyers 20:50:32 (On buttons...I have to say something) 20:50:48 go on liknus 20:51:32 I am in contact with Max for some swag in Greece and I might make 1000 buttons for the whole EMEA region 20:51:44 I will keep you updated 20:52:00 #action liknus talks to Max on buttons 20:52:05 go on zoltanh7211 20:52:59 Kital helps to have an nice Hotel, but everything is on track - I will update the wiki soon 20:53:26 thx kital 20:53:43 I must talk also with Fabian too 20:53:53 EOF 20:54:07 nice zoltanh7211 thanks :) 20:54:38 So in this point I must make an announcement 20:54:52 you might remember the IDLELO event in Ghanain May 20:55:24 * sspreitzer does 20:55:42 we talked with Max, Joerg and our local Ambassador Isaac 20:56:00 and we are going to attend as fedora on IDLELO :) 20:56:13 wow 20:56:47 In fact we are going to have a booth and possibly a talk and i shall fly to Ghana to help Isaac with the event 20:56:57 * cmpahar says: "Goodbye my good friend. I'm never going to see you again :( snif snif" 20:57:24 Africa is going to feel our fedora-rythm :) 20:57:35 ! 20:57:41 I am very excited about going to this event :) 20:58:14 i will keep you updated on how we prepare for our Africa expansion 20:58:34 We are going to start a mailing list thread on Africa in general 20:59:00 ! 20:59:06 d3vnull, we just said about IDLELO :) 20:59:11 sspreitzer, go ahead 20:59:42 :) 20:59:44 I was wondering about the 5000 USD booth fee issue, the airfare and lodging costs? 21:00:14 sspreitzer, we arranged for a 500 fee for the event 21:00:28 Also I found 700 Euro tickets 21:00:44 and some nice little hotel with the help of d3vnull 21:01:47 eof 21:01:52 cwickert, ? 21:02:02 liknus: it is 500 US $ ;) 21:02:11 speaking of Africa, that reminfs me of the Arab mailing list. I will reply to that mail and then request the mailing list from infrastructure 21:02:19 yeah right kital :) 21:02:31 everybody happy with an Arabic list or are there any objections? 21:02:38 +1 21:03:00 (they have more in common that to seperate them ) 21:03:12 +1 21:03:12 I think Arab is a very wide spoken language, so we should do it 21:03:30 plus Fedora is already the most popular distro there 21:03:33 eof 21:03:51 * liknus is happy to hear that :) 21:04:16 Ok no event left 21:04:24 Anything anyone on an event? 21:05:24 Ok lets move to our previous items 21:05:32 #topic Reviewing Items 21:05:47 #link http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Meeting:EMEA_Ambassadors_2010-3-31 21:06:45 So I have already contacted Max on greek swag and we are having 500 Euro as greek community for the next month 21:07:02 t-shirts, mugs, stickers and buttons are our target 21:07:34 ! 21:07:38 On next action item me and sspreitzer should start this thread on Africa expansion 21:07:43 sspreitzer, 21:07:49 * liknus saw heffer 21:08:02 well 21:08:20 At the very moment im preparing a kickoff mail 21:08:39 but amit caleechurn has prepared 2 wiki pages 21:08:43 one second 21:08:57 https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/EMEA/Africa 21:09:06 https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/EMEA/Africa/Meetings 21:09:28 as well as im planning for a bi-weekly IRC meeting and created the #fedora-africa channel 21:09:48 meeting would take place 7pm UTC wednesdays 21:09:54 ! 21:09:56 sspreitzer, 21:10:34 thats not an appropriate hour because it would be difficult to attend two meetings inone day 21:10:54 thats why it is on a bi-weeikly schedule 21:11:12 i thought about holding it the days when emea meeting is not 21:11:23 like say starting with next wednesday 21:11:42 thats what im currently preparing 21:12:05 sspreitzer, different day would be better 21:12:22 and I am willing to help on the chairing and mailing :) 21:12:22 i made up a list of 13 ambassadors from the african continent which I will include seperately in CC to hail on them 21:12:35 to get involved in this focus 21:12:38 ! 21:12:47 :) 21:12:58 liknus, amit caleechurn has volonteered to me as well 21:13:00 ! 21:13:01 sspreitzer, count me in on helping... as I will meet some of them down there :) 21:13:09 heffer, 21:13:11 great 21:13:15 next thing is 21:13:28 we hafe no single ambassador in south africa 21:13:38 :( 21:13:47 i'd say another day would be good, because if EMEA meeting is shifted by one week maybe sometime things might get out of sync 21:13:48 eof 21:13:49 but i have a mate down their who will help and attend the IRD meetings 21:14:04 *IRC 21:14:09 heffer, thats my point exactly 21:14:14 sspreitzer: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/MembershipService/Verification#South_Africa_.283.29 21:14:40 3 Ambassadors as it seems :S 21:14:50 as well he stated that hes willing to spread Media in south africa, maybe we can get him also on board 21:14:52 ah nice 21:15:07 i just took a look on that membership map 21:15:15 lets contact him on that 21:15:16 which is just about ambassadors 21:15:46 membership map is not full yet as many of us have not filled theinfo on fas 21:15:55 I also sent a mail to Jono Bacon 21:16:01 community manager of ubuntu 21:16:21 maybe he can attend some of the first meetings and help us to bootstrap 21:16:43 eof @ Africa section 21:17:44 sspreitzer, thanks for all that work...we are going to be focused on that again :) 21:17:52 zoltanh7211, 21:19:59 d3vnull_II, 21:20:39 I just wanted to support the idea of the fedora-africa channel. I think its a good initiative 21:20:52 we need lots of focus especially in West Africa 21:20:58 eof 21:21:04 +1 21:21:28 nice thanks d3vnull :) 21:22:03 ok don with action points and we are getting started (warm enough!) for Africa 21:22:10 #topic OpenFloor 21:22:20 ! 21:22:36 I was goint to ask you... sspreitzer go ahead 21:22:44 ok 21:22:56 I have an update on the media topic 21:23:10 sadly redhat employ wasnt able to arrange a meeting yet 21:23:46 i think i am going to jump over the redhat folks and and get in contact with company directly 21:24:06 ? 21:24:10 you think we are going to be in time for the new release? 21:24:21 * liknus sorry cwickert ...you are next 21:24:40 i dont know that, since i do not know the preparation time 21:24:48 on the other handside 21:25:17 we can kickstart the process with followinf dependencies; artwork and ISOs 21:25:28 ISOs will be released by release date 21:25:38 and the artwork -> no clue 21:25:42 ! 21:25:47 cwickert, ? 21:25:48 design team is already working on that 21:26:04 let sspreitzer finish, then I take over 21:26:16 sspreitzer, eof? 21:26:36 * sspreitzer thinks ... 21:26:48 * sspreitzer is thinking ... 21:26:59 eof 21:27:03 too much thinking....yougonna burn :P 21:27:07 cwickert, 21:27:10 ok 21:27:21 first some fact, then some questions 21:27:24 artwork 21:27:42 nothing was done so far, the ticket was reassigned to a new owner 21:27:48 and moved back to "new" 21:27:59 no reaktion from the new owner so far 21:28:05 so I'm not tat optimistic 21:28:17 ! 21:28:29 yes please sspreitzer 21:28:52 cwickert, can we both attend their meetings and push them into direction? 21:29:22 sspreitzer, I have no idea when the design folks meet and I am very busy atm due to my new job 21:29:29 but we should definitely try 21:29:36 in the worst case we can take f12 and change the nuber i guess 21:29:57 liknus, not a good idea, in the worst case I will do it 21:30:17 and if i do it, i will just change the number and the background ;) 21:30:29 ? 21:30:38 design team always has its way to do things... even in the final moment so lets mock them but give them some time too 21:30:49 ! 21:31:04 eof cwickert and sspreitzer ? 21:31:08 liknus, well, last time they blamed me for not being in time 21:31:11 not yet 21:31:17 sspreitzer, how much is the budget and how much media will we produce? 21:31:28 budget is 21:31:45 5600 USD overall EMEA 21:31:52 for media produciton 21:32:08 and a special 1k USD is included for africa section 21:32:31 so 4600 for EME and 1000 for A 21:32:52 how much is that compared to the previous years? 21:33:05 +1k to last year 21:33:14 eerrrr 21:33:23 1k to last production 21:33:27 which goes to africa basically, right? 21:33:34 right 21:33:39 thats the deal 21:33:43 I doubt we will be able to do spins media then :( 21:34:03 eof from me 21:34:08 ! 21:34:11 sspreitzer, 21:34:21 one and for all for everyone 21:34:45 it is now up to us, to decide how much from what is being produced 21:35:16 if we find a common sense on that, then i will just order as we all think of it to be the best 21:35:37 sspreitzer, we should talk on ameeting for that 21:35:45 right 21:36:02 since noone answered ML thread 21:36:02 #action sspreitzer adds an agenda point on media quantites 21:36:12 and little to noone changed the wiki on that 21:36:15 * cwickert answered... 21:36:20 maybe for the next one 21:36:41 it is not our thing to blame everyone who didnt answer 21:36:54 sspreitzer, has a task to do and he is doing it right :) 21:36:55 cwickert, you flamed to me and my proposals, thats not what a consense is, right? 21:37:05 but ok 21:37:06 eof 21:37:18 Lets help him on our next meeting figuring out the quantities 21:37:20 sspreitzer, huh? 21:37:24 everyone agreed? 21:37:58 liknus: let's have about this an another meeting 21:38:10 ! 21:38:11 it deserves 21:38:16 A whole meeting you mean? 21:38:22 yeah 21:38:39 I we producing all of the respins 21:38:42 ok how many in favor of a special-meeting? (I shall arrange it) 21:39:08 (I dont see any +1 :S) 21:39:20 ! 21:39:23 We need the respin leaders 21:39:38 zoltanh7211, respin != spin 21:39:41 zoltanh7211, we are talking about a different think 21:39:47 thing* 21:39:52 cwickert, go ahead 21:40:12 regarding the quantities: we should take the downloads and the previous orders as a starting point, so there is not much to decide for us. It's not what we want but what the users want 21:40:30 +1 21:40:34 -1 21:40:41 but these are details that should be figured out by the interested parties in a dedicated meeting 21:40:43 eof 21:40:46 sspreitzer, 21:40:52 physical and virtual media is not the same 21:41:02 cwickert +1 21:41:03 nor does it state the amount of those usage 21:41:08 * cwickert thinks that t2hot wanted to add something... 21:41:34 * liknus saw t2hot :) 21:42:03 Am I on? 21:42:14 if sspreitzer is oef... 21:42:17 eof* 21:42:51 well 21:42:53 t2hot, go ahead 21:43:02