20:00:13 <mmcgrath> #startmeeting Infrastructure 20:00:13 <zodbot> Meeting started Thu May 20 20:00:13 2010 UTC. The chair is mmcgrath. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 20:00:13 <zodbot> Useful Commands: #action #agreed #halp #info #idea #link #topic. 20:00:16 <smooge> hello 20:00:17 <mmcgrath> #topic Who's here? 20:00:20 <dgilmore> ola 20:00:36 <mmcgrath> dgilmore: you on the road or finally get to where you were headed? 20:00:42 * dgilmore just arrived in iowa 20:00:49 <mmcgrath> nice 20:00:50 <dgilmore> mmcgrath: i arrived 20:01:00 * sijis is here. 20:01:02 <mmcgrath> Ok, well we really don't have a lot to talk about except the release so lets knock it out and keep it short. 20:01:02 <dgilmore> it was a good drive 20:01:29 <mmcgrath> dgilmore: happy to hear it 20:01:39 <mmcgrath> #topic F13 release - https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-infrastructure/report/9 20:01:44 <mmcgrath> .ticket 2137 20:01:45 <zodbot> mmcgrath: #2137 (New website) - Fedora Infrastructure - Trac - https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-infrastructure/ticket/2137 20:01:49 <mmcgrath> sijis: this one's all set right? 20:02:12 <sijis> yeah, its just changing syncstatic script to point to master 20:02:16 * skvidal is here 20:02:30 <mmcgrath> sijis: and this - http://stg.fedoraproject.org/ is the final site right? 20:02:34 <sijis> yup 20:02:38 <mmcgrath> sweet 20:02:41 <mmcgrath> ok 20:02:44 <mmcgrath> .ticket 2138 20:02:46 <zodbot> mmcgrath: #2138 (Verify Mirror Space) - Fedora Infrastructure - Trac - https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-infrastructure/ticket/2138 20:02:55 <mmcgrath> smooge: I think you did this one already (and I think its already staged) so safe to close 20:03:14 <smooge> yes we are way under 20:03:18 <smooge> due to the PPC removal 20:03:28 <mmcgrath> thats good news 20:03:29 <mmcgrath> ok 20:03:31 <mmcgrath> .ticket 2139 20:03:32 <zodbot> mmcgrath: #2139 (Release day ticket.) - Fedora Infrastructure - Trac - https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-infrastructure/ticket/2139 20:03:33 <mmcgrath> just a tracking ticket 20:03:37 <mmcgrath> .ticket 2140 20:03:38 <smooge> now if we can get rid of that pesky x86_64 we will have even more 20:03:39 <zodbot> mmcgrath: #2140 (Verify releng permissions) - Fedora Infrastructure - Trac - https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-infrastructure/ticket/2140 20:03:54 <smooge> completed that this morning 20:03:59 <smooge> closed the ticket 20:04:07 <mmcgrath> sweet 20:04:09 <smooge> I believe everything is correct 20:04:11 <mmcgrath> .ticket 2141 20:04:12 <zodbot> mmcgrath: #2141 (Mirrormanager redirects) - Fedora Infrastructure - Trac - https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-infrastructure/ticket/2141 20:04:15 <mmcgrath> mdomsch: you there? 20:05:14 <dgilmore> i think he said there should be no manual flip this time 20:05:25 <mmcgrath> yeah I think that's right. 20:05:29 <sijis> really. nice 20:05:35 <mmcgrath> .ticket 2142 20:05:36 <zodbot> mmcgrath: #2142 (communication with IS) - Fedora Infrastructure - Trac - https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-infrastructure/ticket/2142 20:05:56 <mmcgrath> This has been communicated. Doesn't seem to be a problem even with the slip. 20:06:00 * mmcgrath closes 20:06:08 <mmcgrath> .ticket 2144 20:06:10 <zodbot> mmcgrath: #2144 (Template modification (FedoraVersion) - Fedora Infrastructure - Trac - https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-infrastructure/ticket/2144 20:06:32 <mmcgrath> ke4qqq: you're still cleared to be around near 10:00 EST on Tuesday to flip this? 20:07:04 <smooge> He may not be available. I caught him a short while ago and he was heading out 20:07:11 <mmcgrath> <nod> 20:07:17 <mmcgrath> well if he's not around on release day I'll get'er 20:07:27 <ke4qqq> yes 20:07:32 <mmcgrath> ke4qqq: thanks 20:07:36 <mmcgrath> .ticket 2145 20:07:37 <zodbot> mmcgrath: #2145 (Lessons Learned) - Fedora Infrastructure - Trac - https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-infrastructure/ticket/2145 20:07:39 <mmcgrath> this one's for after the release 20:07:41 <mmcgrath> .ticket 2146 20:07:44 <zodbot> mmcgrath: #2146 (Enable wiki caching.) - Fedora Infrastructure - Trac - https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-infrastructure/ticket/2146 20:07:45 <mmcgrath> smooge: you're still all clear here? 20:07:59 <smooge> yes. Monday morning I turn off 20:08:12 <smooge> Tuesday afternoon I turn back on 20:08:16 <smooge> or vice versa 20:08:19 <mmcgrath> other way :) 20:08:19 <mmcgrath> yup 20:08:22 <mmcgrath> excellent 20:08:27 <mmcgrath> and last but not least 20:08:31 <mmcgrath> the new one from last week 20:08:33 <mmcgrath> .ticket 2166 20:08:34 <zodbot> mmcgrath: #2166 (mirrors.fp.o/releases.txt) - Fedora Infrastructure - Trac - https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-infrastructure/ticket/2166 20:08:40 <mmcgrath> I'll get this one. 20:08:50 <mmcgrath> Ok, so in 8 minutes we went over the whole release :) 20:08:57 <mmcgrath> anyone have any questions, concerns or comments so far? 20:09:40 <mmcgrath> excellent. 20:09:44 <mmcgrath> ok 20:09:46 <mmcgrath> so one more thing here 20:09:49 <mmcgrath> #topic the docs site. 20:10:02 <jokajak> i'm here! 20:10:06 <mmcgrath> This is one that kind of snuck up on us. It's really not a very big change from the infrastructure side of things 20:10:09 <mmcgrath> jokajak: welcome 20:10:12 <jokajak> sorry i'm late 20:10:28 <mmcgrath> but it is a different actual site 20:10:38 <mmcgrath> the only concerns I have are about load times and page / image sizes. 20:10:52 <mmcgrath> I've asked nb to get that to go live ASAP and I'm going to give it all a good look over. 20:10:56 <mmcgrath> espeically pages we link to. 20:11:18 <mmcgrath> since this is all cached at the proxy level anyway (and has been for several releases) I'm not concerned about the app servers getting overwhelmed. 20:11:46 <mmcgrath> That being said, I think we need to put a decent doc together about when it's ok to introduce stuff like this. 20:11:51 <mmcgrath> any thoughts on that? 20:12:05 <smooge> smaller words please.. what exactly are we changing? 20:12:10 <smooge> my brain hurts 20:12:26 <dgilmore> mmcgrath: yeah id almost rather wait till a couple of weeks post release 20:12:29 <mmcgrath> smooge: yeah its a little confusing, the docs site right now gets built and we serve it statically. 20:12:31 <smooge> this is the ticket for new publican pages or something? 20:12:33 <dgilmore> just incase it goes bad 20:12:37 <mmcgrath> smooge: yeah. 20:13:02 <mmcgrath> dgilmore: I generally agree except that the actual changes on Infrastructures side is pretty small :( 20:13:16 <mmcgrath> smooge: but they've got a new site, almost identical from our point of view. 20:13:17 <smooge> ok should it not go onto staging first? test there and then put onto live? 20:13:22 <mmcgrath> its' in staging now. 20:13:26 <smooge> oooooooooh 20:13:28 <mmcgrath> I think it's been there for a couple of weeks. 20:13:42 <smooge> I need to look at staging more often 20:13:44 <smooge> sorry 20:14:02 <mmcgrath> smooge: http://docs.stg.fedoraproject.org/en-US/index.html 20:14:41 <mmcgrath> anywho, I think this one's already been approved but its a lesson for later. People seem to be very confused about when its ok to introduce changes into infrastructure prior to a release. 20:14:53 <mmcgrath> and it feels like we go through this every release so I think it's mostly an education thing. 20:15:05 <dgilmore> mmcgrath: perhaps we should say nothing new post beta 20:15:05 <mmcgrath> anywho, anyone have any questions or comments on that? 20:15:38 <mmcgrath> dgilmore: Yeah I'm thinking something like that. 20:15:43 <mmcgrath> certainly nothing after the freeze. 20:15:45 <smooge> mmcgrath, let us add that to the tickets per release 20:15:54 <mmcgrath> this has been an odd one because of the problems with mirror manager 20:16:07 <smooge> it makes it more likely we will remember it and remind people when they need to get stuff done 20:16:13 <mmcgrath> it makes it seem like the last freeze was really loose but really we were just fixing problems we found that might impact the release. 20:16:17 <smooge> ? this is related to mirror manager 20:16:27 <dgilmore> mmcgrath: i thhink its good we fixed the MM issues 20:16:36 <mmcgrath> dgilmore: I do too 20:16:52 <mmcgrath> smooge: it's not I'm just mentioning we had a LOT of change requests go through giving the appearence that we're weak on crimem. 20:16:55 <mmcgrath> err I mean changes :) 20:17:03 <mmcgrath> dgilmore: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/collectd/bin/index.cgi?hostname=app01&plugin=cpu×pan=604800&action=show_selection&ok_button=OK 20:17:10 <mmcgrath> see as of the 17th the lower cpu usage 20:17:13 <mmcgrath> that's because mdomsch is the bomb :) 20:17:35 <mmcgrath> Ok, anywho, anyone have any other questions or comments on this? 20:18:23 <mmcgrath> Alrighty :) 20:18:25 <dgilmore> none 20:18:26 <mmcgrath> #topic Open Floor 20:18:32 <mmcgrath> anyone have anything else they'd like to discuss? 20:18:45 <dgilmore> i have been playing with RHEL-6 beta and epel 20:18:56 <jokajak> i'd like to introduce myself as a supplement to my emails 20:19:03 <mmcgrath> jokajak: hey! welcome 20:19:10 <dgilmore> other than some anaconda bugs ive hit its been pretty smooth 20:19:14 <dgilmore> welcome jokajak 20:19:18 <jokajak> and also ask what is required to join the sysadmin group 20:19:20 <mmcgrath> dgilmore: good to hear it. 20:19:45 <mmcgrath> jokajak: I'll approve that one now, if you want an additional FIG I might hesitate only because I recently picked up a bunch of sponsors :) 20:20:08 <jokajak> sysadmin is plenty for now. i'm not sure what FIG i'd like to help out in 20:20:27 <mmcgrath> jokajak: whats your username? 20:21:00 <jokajak> joshkayse 20:21:29 <mmcgrath> approved 20:21:45 <mmcgrath> Ok, anyone have anything else to discuss? 20:21:47 <jokajak> thanks! 20:21:55 <mmcgrath> If not we'll close the meeting in 30 20:22:46 <mmcgrath> #endmeeting