20:00:13 #startmeeting Infrastructure 20:00:13 Meeting started Thu May 20 20:00:13 2010 UTC. The chair is mmcgrath. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 20:00:13 Useful Commands: #action #agreed #halp #info #idea #link #topic. 20:00:16 hello 20:00:17 #topic Who's here? 20:00:20 ola 20:00:36 dgilmore: you on the road or finally get to where you were headed? 20:00:42 * dgilmore just arrived in iowa 20:00:49 nice 20:00:50 mmcgrath: i arrived 20:01:00 * sijis is here. 20:01:02 Ok, well we really don't have a lot to talk about except the release so lets knock it out and keep it short. 20:01:02 it was a good drive 20:01:29 dgilmore: happy to hear it 20:01:39 #topic F13 release - https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-infrastructure/report/9 20:01:44 .ticket 2137 20:01:45 mmcgrath: #2137 (New website) - Fedora Infrastructure - Trac - https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-infrastructure/ticket/2137 20:01:49 sijis: this one's all set right? 20:02:12 yeah, its just changing syncstatic script to point to master 20:02:16 * skvidal is here 20:02:30 sijis: and this - http://stg.fedoraproject.org/ is the final site right? 20:02:34 yup 20:02:38 sweet 20:02:41 ok 20:02:44 .ticket 2138 20:02:46 mmcgrath: #2138 (Verify Mirror Space) - Fedora Infrastructure - Trac - https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-infrastructure/ticket/2138 20:02:55 smooge: I think you did this one already (and I think its already staged) so safe to close 20:03:14 yes we are way under 20:03:18 due to the PPC removal 20:03:28 thats good news 20:03:29 ok 20:03:31 .ticket 2139 20:03:32 mmcgrath: #2139 (Release day ticket.) - Fedora Infrastructure - Trac - https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-infrastructure/ticket/2139 20:03:33 just a tracking ticket 20:03:37 .ticket 2140 20:03:38 now if we can get rid of that pesky x86_64 we will have even more 20:03:39 mmcgrath: #2140 (Verify releng permissions) - Fedora Infrastructure - Trac - https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-infrastructure/ticket/2140 20:03:54 completed that this morning 20:03:59 closed the ticket 20:04:07 sweet 20:04:09 I believe everything is correct 20:04:11 .ticket 2141 20:04:12 mmcgrath: #2141 (Mirrormanager redirects) - Fedora Infrastructure - Trac - https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-infrastructure/ticket/2141 20:04:15 mdomsch: you there? 20:05:14 i think he said there should be no manual flip this time 20:05:25 yeah I think that's right. 20:05:29 really. nice 20:05:35 .ticket 2142 20:05:36 mmcgrath: #2142 (communication with IS) - Fedora Infrastructure - Trac - https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-infrastructure/ticket/2142 20:05:56 This has been communicated. Doesn't seem to be a problem even with the slip. 20:06:00 * mmcgrath closes 20:06:08 .ticket 2144 20:06:10 mmcgrath: #2144 (Template modification (FedoraVersion) - Fedora Infrastructure - Trac - https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-infrastructure/ticket/2144 20:06:32 ke4qqq: you're still cleared to be around near 10:00 EST on Tuesday to flip this? 20:07:04 He may not be available. I caught him a short while ago and he was heading out 20:07:11 20:07:17 well if he's not around on release day I'll get'er 20:07:27 yes 20:07:32 ke4qqq: thanks 20:07:36 .ticket 2145 20:07:37 mmcgrath: #2145 (Lessons Learned) - Fedora Infrastructure - Trac - https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-infrastructure/ticket/2145 20:07:39 this one's for after the release 20:07:41 .ticket 2146 20:07:44 mmcgrath: #2146 (Enable wiki caching.) - Fedora Infrastructure - Trac - https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-infrastructure/ticket/2146 20:07:45 smooge: you're still all clear here? 20:07:59 yes. Monday morning I turn off 20:08:12 Tuesday afternoon I turn back on 20:08:16 or vice versa 20:08:19 other way :) 20:08:19 yup 20:08:22 excellent 20:08:27 and last but not least 20:08:31 the new one from last week 20:08:33 .ticket 2166 20:08:34 mmcgrath: #2166 (mirrors.fp.o/releases.txt) - Fedora Infrastructure - Trac - https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-infrastructure/ticket/2166 20:08:40 I'll get this one. 20:08:50 Ok, so in 8 minutes we went over the whole release :) 20:08:57 anyone have any questions, concerns or comments so far? 20:09:40 excellent. 20:09:44 ok 20:09:46 so one more thing here 20:09:49 #topic the docs site. 20:10:02 i'm here! 20:10:06 This is one that kind of snuck up on us. It's really not a very big change from the infrastructure side of things 20:10:09 jokajak: welcome 20:10:12 sorry i'm late 20:10:28 but it is a different actual site 20:10:38 the only concerns I have are about load times and page / image sizes. 20:10:52 I've asked nb to get that to go live ASAP and I'm going to give it all a good look over. 20:10:56 espeically pages we link to. 20:11:18 since this is all cached at the proxy level anyway (and has been for several releases) I'm not concerned about the app servers getting overwhelmed. 20:11:46 That being said, I think we need to put a decent doc together about when it's ok to introduce stuff like this. 20:11:51 any thoughts on that? 20:12:05 smaller words please.. what exactly are we changing? 20:12:10 my brain hurts 20:12:26 mmcgrath: yeah id almost rather wait till a couple of weeks post release 20:12:29 smooge: yeah its a little confusing, the docs site right now gets built and we serve it statically. 20:12:31 this is the ticket for new publican pages or something? 20:12:33 just incase it goes bad 20:12:37 smooge: yeah. 20:13:02 dgilmore: I generally agree except that the actual changes on Infrastructures side is pretty small :( 20:13:16 smooge: but they've got a new site, almost identical from our point of view. 20:13:17 ok should it not go onto staging first? test there and then put onto live? 20:13:22 its' in staging now. 20:13:26 oooooooooh 20:13:28 I think it's been there for a couple of weeks. 20:13:42 I need to look at staging more often 20:13:44 sorry 20:14:02 smooge: http://docs.stg.fedoraproject.org/en-US/index.html 20:14:41 anywho, I think this one's already been approved but its a lesson for later. People seem to be very confused about when its ok to introduce changes into infrastructure prior to a release. 20:14:53 and it feels like we go through this every release so I think it's mostly an education thing. 20:15:05 mmcgrath: perhaps we should say nothing new post beta 20:15:05 anywho, anyone have any questions or comments on that? 20:15:38 dgilmore: Yeah I'm thinking something like that. 20:15:43 certainly nothing after the freeze. 20:15:45 mmcgrath, let us add that to the tickets per release 20:15:54 this has been an odd one because of the problems with mirror manager 20:16:07 it makes it more likely we will remember it and remind people when they need to get stuff done 20:16:13 it makes it seem like the last freeze was really loose but really we were just fixing problems we found that might impact the release. 20:16:17 ? this is related to mirror manager 20:16:27 mmcgrath: i thhink its good we fixed the MM issues 20:16:36 dgilmore: I do too 20:16:52 smooge: it's not I'm just mentioning we had a LOT of change requests go through giving the appearence that we're weak on crimem. 20:16:55 err I mean changes :) 20:17:03 dgilmore: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/collectd/bin/index.cgi?hostname=app01&plugin=cpu×pan=604800&action=show_selection&ok_button=OK 20:17:10 see as of the 17th the lower cpu usage 20:17:13 that's because mdomsch is the bomb :) 20:17:35 Ok, anywho, anyone have any other questions or comments on this? 20:18:23 Alrighty :) 20:18:25 none 20:18:26 #topic Open Floor 20:18:32 anyone have anything else they'd like to discuss? 20:18:45 i have been playing with RHEL-6 beta and epel 20:18:56 i'd like to introduce myself as a supplement to my emails 20:19:03 jokajak: hey! welcome 20:19:10 other than some anaconda bugs ive hit its been pretty smooth 20:19:14 welcome jokajak 20:19:18 and also ask what is required to join the sysadmin group 20:19:20 dgilmore: good to hear it. 20:19:45 jokajak: I'll approve that one now, if you want an additional FIG I might hesitate only because I recently picked up a bunch of sponsors :) 20:20:08 sysadmin is plenty for now. i'm not sure what FIG i'd like to help out in 20:20:27 jokajak: whats your username? 20:21:00 joshkayse 20:21:29 approved 20:21:45 Ok, anyone have anything else to discuss? 20:21:47 thanks! 20:21:55 If not we'll close the meeting in 30 20:22:46 #endmeeting