20:06:33 #startmeeting EMEA Ambassadors Meeting 2010-6-9 20:06:33 Meeting started Wed Jun 9 20:06:33 2010 UTC. The chair is liknus_. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 20:06:33 Useful Commands: #action #agreed #halp #info #idea #link #topic. 20:06:39 #topic Rollcall 20:06:49 its on the topic ladies and gents! 20:06:54 Joerg Simon 20:06:58 .fas dmaphy 20:06:59 dmaphy: dmaphy 'Dominic Hopf' 20:07:01 Pierros Papadeas 20:07:03 .fas cmpahar 20:07:04 cmpahar: cmpahar 'Christos Bacharakis' 20:07:10 .fas zoltanh721 20:07:11 zoltanh7211: zoltanh721 'Hoppár Zoltán' 20:07:20 .fas constanton 20:07:21 constanton: constanton 'Konstantinos Antonakoglou' 20:07:39 .fas geroldka 20:07:40 GeroldKa: geroldka 'Gerold Kassube' 20:08:10 Ok gents, todays agenda can be found here: 20:08:13 #link https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Meeting:EMEA_Ambassadors_2010-06-09 20:08:31 #topic Announcements 20:08:47 kital, any news from FAmSCo? 20:08:58 sure - i will give a short update 20:09:08 latest FAmSCo Report for May can be found here 20:09:15 #chair kital 20:09:15 Current chairs: kital liknus_ 20:09:28 #info https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FAmSCo_report_2010-05 20:09:42 * liknus_ is having terrible lag :( 20:09:51 #info 2010-June-30 is the final deadline to list your F13 Release Event Report 20:10:14 https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/F13_release_events 20:10:30 NA Ambassadors brought up discussion about raising barriers to join the Ambassador Group 20:10:41 interesting 20:10:44 http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/famsco/2010-May/000187.html 20:10:49 http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/famsco/2010-May/000188.html 20:10:53 can you tell us a little bit more about that? 20:10:55 During FAmSCo Meetings we had discussions on this topic 20:11:01 and we agreed that the Mentors have already all instruments 20:11:27 hi guys 20:11:28 liknus_: it is mostly summarized by David here http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/famsco/2010-May/000187.html 20:11:39 22:11 < kital> and we agreed that the Mentors have already all instruments 20:11:46 and the Freedom to decide what barrier he wants to raise personally 20:11:58 as example to require one month active work in marketing or other group 20:12:11 here the Mentor is completely free to decide 20:12:24 As most of you noticed we also announced the reshaped Membership Wizard 20:12:33 this week 20:12:37 http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/famsco/2010-June/000198.html 20:12:51 and we are positive that it will clarify to new candidates that the Ambassadors Group is not 20:13:03 just a starting group and will help Mentors to focus on the candidate and not on explaining 20:13:09 the membership process 1000 times 20:13:13 eof 20:13:34 thanks kital for the really interesting info on the subject 20:13:43 any questions on that? 20:14:01 #chair liknus 20:14:01 Current chairs: kital liknus liknus_ 20:14:21 ok any more announcements? 20:14:44 ok moving on to the next subject 20:14:54 #topic Events 20:15:05 #link https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FedoraEvents#FY11_Q1_.28March_2010_-_May_2010.29_2 20:15:16 oups...wrong 20:15:21 #undo 20:15:21 Removing item from minutes: 20:16:03 #link https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FedoraEvents# FY11 Q2 (June 2010 - August 2010) 20:16:40 bochecha, ping 20:17:00 mainly this month we are focusing on Release Parties 20:17:14 so far in EMEA region we had/will have 4 events 20:17:38 #link https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/F13_release_events 20:18:07 We already had to of them in france and belgium 20:18:44 and this Saturday we are going to experiment in Greece, hosting two Release parties on the same time from distance :) 20:18:58 * cmpahar yiouhouuu 20:19:07 cmpahar, and me are responsible for Thessaloniki and Athens accordincly 20:19:29 * constanton won't miss it too :P 20:19:45 We are hoping that this formula will work and we can maybe next time experiment with more parties through more countries 20:19:54 Any questions remarks on that? 20:20:21 (of cource event reports and photos will follow) 20:20:43 Ok.. 20:21:11 I think we also need to look and assess the situation of the few Release Parties within EMEA 20:22:21 I can see that possibly the problems are the difficulties of organizng or the downfall of some communities 20:22:58 Some more motives need to be there so as more people organize release parties 20:23:34 What do you think on focusing on some kind of special promotion for the next release parties? 20:23:43 F14 I am talking now... 20:24:06 Any comments on that? 20:24:15 ! 20:24:23 cmpahar, 20:24:47 ! 20:25:13 I think that we have to prove to the people that it is not so hard to organize a release event, to say a few words for the new release. We have to motivate them. 20:25:20 eof 20:25:36 Thanks cmpahar ... this can be done through wiki and through ml 20:25:39 kital, 20:25:42 do you feel that FAmSCo or Marketing should advertise the Release Parties with more ressources? 20:25:57 s/you/you all/ 20:26:01 eof 20:26:04 kital, +1 20:26:06 +1 kital 20:26:19 i think that famsco should provide some motives 20:26:30 ! 20:26:37 marketing team should work on some texts 20:26:46 and design team should help us on some artwork 20:26:54 ! 20:26:58 kital, 20:27:15 ! 20:27:16 kital +1 20:27:25 d3vnull_II: should first i have to search a link 20:27:26 ;) 20:27:35 d3vnull_II, then :) 20:27:49 thanks 20:28:05 liknus_ do u mean motivation of some sort or motives for real? 20:28:28 possible both ;) 20:28:42 motivation at first i guess 20:29:01 if its the former, then I will agree with kital on resource availability. 20:29:30 some ambassadors depending on the zone might find it pocket draining to organize parties 20:30:05 when I say zone in this context I mean regions..eg.Africa/Nigeria...Ivory Coast...etc 20:30:06 * kital found the link 20:30:11 EOF 20:30:37 d3vnull_II, thanks for the remarks....indeed the zones are an issue 20:30:40 kital, 20:31:23 we tried to use Release Party Contests as motivation in the past 20:32:00 which turned out to be demotivating for all the others who invested a lot of love in their events and did not won 20:33:16 do you think the same ? 20:33:17 eof 20:33:35 +1 kital 20:33:59 +1 kital 20:34:04 +1 kital 20:34:05 +1 kital 20:34:08 Shall we open the subject on the ml? 20:34:17 ! can I add something? 20:34:31 constanton, 20:34:43 I think the motive can be found locally 20:34:47 I think a first step is to actually get promoted from those who will soon organise a release party. I mean write down somewhere "it was cool, if you are an Ambassador, just do it, it's more than fun!" 20:35:03 I think it's not just workshops and presentations, and that side is a motive I think 20:35:37 indeed promoting the fun side of events is something we must promote :) 20:35:58 talk about fedora and much more and get a beer...I think it's enough for me 20:36:06 eof :) 20:36:09 #action liknus_ add the "fun side" on the report guidelines 20:36:15 aggreed? 20:36:29 +1 20:36:36 +1 20:36:49 +1 20:37:14 ah - i am dump i searched the link and forgott to post it - 20:37:29 discussion regarding contest prize by famsco http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting-1/2010-05-03/fedora-meeting-1.2010-05-03-18.00.log.html 20:37:55 and hint hint! 18:27:49 #agreed to have team-lunch as prize for every Release Event Team with an detailed Event Report 20:38:01 eof 20:38:37 that is still valid kital ? ;) 20:38:59 there is a agreed - right ;) 20:39:37 greek team prepare for dinner :P 20:40:08 ;) 20:40:14 * constanton is suited up already 20:40:14 * cmpahar getting ready 20:40:19 * bochecha totally forgot the meeting, sorry about that :x 20:40:31 * cmpahar hey bobmcw 20:40:37 * cmpahar hey bochecha 20:40:58 * liknus_ hey there bochecha 20:41:14 bochecha, any info from the release party? 20:41:24 the one we held in Paris? 20:41:56 yeah bochecha 20:42:17 well, like I said in my report on the mailing list, we had 150 visitors, we gave a presentation and two workshops 20:42:39 and as it appears I arrived while we're discussing the fun side, then it definitely was a lot of fun (although exhausting) 20:42:40 excellent bochecha 20:42:41 :) 20:43:19 ok anything more on the events? 20:44:00 * cmpahar WOW 20:44:15 I can see that there are no action items from previous meeting 20:44:19 so.. 20:44:24 #topic Open Flooe 20:44:31 ah ok 20:44:32 #topic Open Floor 20:44:56 anyone knows what sspreitzer does on media? 20:45:02 liknus, 20:45:05 ! 20:45:12 cmpahar, 20:45:47 will you sum up your thoughts and experiences about IDLELO and generally Ghana? 20:46:05 cmpahar, that can be done :) 20:46:22 if we dont have something else of course 20:46:22 eof 20:46:29 but in a meeting i prefer Q&A 20:46:42 else i shall write a ml post 20:47:04 fair enough :) 20:47:28 any Q for that? 20:47:55 Also I have to note that Africa meetings were stopped just before IDLELO...no idea why 20:48:07 I shall boot it up back 20:48:33 ! 20:48:38 zoltanh7211, 20:48:57 Kital, can we talk about tshirts? 20:49:08 zoltanh7211: we can 20:49:14 So, 20:49:42 Lately I try to find a good Hu company who could create cheap swag 20:49:47 right now i try to get offers for the fudcon shirts for the fudcon zurich 20:50:14 understand 20:50:18 in greece our vendor give us vinyl tshirts for 10 Euros each 20:50:20 * kital saw zoltanh7211 t-shirt designs 20:50:20 kital, i can take some offers from Greece too :) 20:50:27 liknus_, expensive 20:50:39 bochecha, vinyl stamp 20:50:52 I have no idea what vinyl stamp is of course :) 20:51:09 no way of getting worn off 20:52:07 * kital remembers that there is also a ticket to produce new polo shirts for greece 20:52:09 Kital: Currently I will receive the following samples: Flags (2 types), tshirts (2 types), sticker sets, hanger, and more 20:52:24 nice zoltanh7211 20:52:25 zoltanh7211: can not wait to see them 20:52:53 and look forward to wear a rocket button in the future 20:53:08 oh!! 20:53:10 If I good remember, then GeroldKA was who wated flags 20:53:12 that reminds me 20:53:39 ?? 20:53:50 I am thinking if we have the budget to buy a button making machine :) 20:54:15 It costs about 250 Euros with 1000 parts to produce ... 20:54:31 GeroldKa: If my information is correct you would like to see desk flags, I will have them for events 20:54:34 1000 buttons cost 300 Euros .. so I think it is profitable for us 20:54:44 liknus: that could be great 20:54:46 kital, what do you think? 20:55:08 I used one machine like that in LGM Brussles and it was *great* !!! 20:55:22 liknus_: sounds good - please do a ticket on emea swag 20:55:36 i will announce it to our treasurer 20:55:47 who shall buy it? 20:55:54 who is your treasurer kital ? 20:55:57 liknus_: you 20:56:02 ok kital 20:56:07 liknus_: ;) 20:56:20 GeroldKa: Max 20:56:33 s/your/our 20:56:39 oh OK .... 20:56:48 and of course you - if all things will fail 20:56:50 ;)))) 20:56:59 :) 20:57:01 as you are alway the final backup 20:57:35 lol 20:57:36 nice 20:57:53 * kital loves this button 20:57:53 me?! 20:57:54 http://howto.nicubunu.ro/NASA-badge-inkscape/fedora-NASA-badge.png 20:57:55 #action liknus_ makes a ticket on buttons making machine 20:58:19 kital, I am going to bring many for you :P 20:58:24 GeroldKa: yes, i can not remember that you ever let me down ;) 20:58:33 liknus, with your face?1 20:58:40 indeed; that's a fact 20:58:42 why not cmpahar :P 20:58:49 GeroldKa, thats sweet :) 20:59:45 in 2 minutes I shall end the meeting 21:00:02 * cmpahar i thalitsa kaleiiii.... 21:00:36 i am trying to remember something that i wanted to be discussed 21:00:45 but unfortunately, i cant :( 21:00:49 aaa 21:00:50 kital, 21:00:56 never mind 21:00:59 after the meeting 21:01:02 cmpahar: ;) 21:01:32 Thanks all for attending! 21:01:35 thanks liknus_ for chairing 21:01:35 see ya around! 21:01:36 thanks liknus 21:01:48 thx everyone 21:01:55 #endmeeting