20:00:15 <mmcgrath> #startmeeting Infrastructure
20:00:15 <zodbot> Meeting started Thu Jul  1 20:00:15 2010 UTC.  The chair is mmcgrath. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.
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20:00:22 <mmcgrath> #topic who's here?
20:00:24 * lmacken 
20:00:25 * abadger1999 peeks in
20:00:28 * CodeBlock 
20:01:22 <mmcgrath> Lets get started
20:01:45 * dgilmore is around
20:01:51 <mmcgrath> #topic Nagios 3
20:01:56 <mmcgrath> CodeBlock: hit us, whats the latest?
20:02:04 * CodeBlock is prepared :)
20:02:05 <CodeBlock> I've been working on Nagios 3 with tobyh and badone. tobyh is new I believe, so I can't speak for him, but badone is working on an RPM for 3. Our nagios 2 configs appear to work in nagios 3 in my quick testing. Upon badone making the RPM for 3, we'll try it on nagios-external, and if that goes smoothly we'll move on to nagios itself.
20:02:30 <smooge> here
20:02:56 <CodeBlock> any questions/comments/concerns/etc can be thrown to me or badone
20:02:56 * nirik is lurking in the back.
20:02:58 <smooge> sounds like a good plan
20:03:53 <CodeBlock> mmcgrath: that is all
20:04:25 <mmcgrath> anyone know the status of nagios 3 in epel?
20:04:35 <mmcgrath> .whoowns nagios
20:04:35 <zodbot> mmcgrath: peter
20:05:13 <mmcgrath> CodeBlock: contact peter@fp.o and see what his plans are for nagios in EPEL
20:05:14 <nirik> it's not in there. ;)
20:05:18 <mmcgrath> it'd be nice to not have to support it ourselves.
20:05:30 <CodeBlock> mmcgrath: alright will do
20:05:34 <dgilmore> mmcgrath: EL-6 has no reason to not get nagios3
20:06:41 <mmcgrath> ok, well that's that
20:06:45 <mmcgrath> #topic RHEL6
20:06:56 <mmcgrath> So we've already started evaluating RHEL6 for migration
20:07:01 <mmcgrath> dgilmore: how's your experience been so far?
20:07:23 * skvidal notices it is remarkably like fedora 13 :)
20:07:25 <dgilmore> mmcgrath: beta2 is betterer than beta1
20:07:31 <dgilmore> skvidal: indeed
20:07:41 * dgilmore know we cant use it for building glibc yet
20:08:06 <mmcgrath> skvidal: how's your people2 setup been going?
20:08:07 <dgilmore> we are going to have some warts with puppet
20:08:22 <mmcgrath> yeah I'm going through and fixing up puppet now
20:08:29 <mmcgrath> I'm hoping to fix fas clients this afternoon as well
20:08:39 <skvidal> mmcgrath: slow - been distracted with silliness this week
20:08:45 <mmcgrath> <nod>
20:08:50 <skvidal> mmcgrath: but it's in my plan for either tomorrow or next week
20:09:28 <mmcgrath> cool
20:09:33 <mmcgrath> anyone else out there testing the RHEL6 beta?
20:09:59 * dgilmore points out is on the public mirrors
20:10:06 <dgilmore> as well as in rhn
20:10:23 <dgilmore> and yum will work soon for people i promise
20:10:49 <mmcgrath> :)
20:11:00 <mmcgrath> Ok, well if that's that we'll move on.
20:11:02 <smooge> oh boy oh boy oh boy
20:11:03 * nirik plans to instalal one soon here.
20:11:13 <dgilmore> smooge: ?
20:11:25 <mmcgrath> Actually since I've been gone for the last 2 weeks that's all I had really.
20:11:28 <mmcgrath> #topic Open Floor
20:11:33 <mmcgrath> anyone have anything they'd like to discuss?
20:11:43 <smooge> I am looking at playing with EL-6 next week.
20:11:56 <smooge> and work on sponsoring more people
20:12:18 <dgilmore> mmcgrath: i have one thing to bring up
20:12:22 <smooge> where is people2 going to be?
20:12:23 <mmcgrath> dgilmore: have at it
20:12:26 * CodeBlock would download it if there was a netinstall/non 3GB iso download
20:12:30 <skvidal> smooge: internetx
20:12:30 <mmcgrath> smooge: telia
20:12:33 <mmcgrath> err internetx
20:12:37 <skvidal> mmcgrath: telia?
20:12:39 <mmcgrath> over there, in germany :)
20:12:41 <skvidal> haha
20:12:50 <smooge> skvidal, let me know if I can help
20:12:53 <skvidal> you told me internetx01 :)
20:12:55 <dgilmore> toshio and I are both going to chile and brasil for 2 weeks in just over a weeks time.  and will not be around a huge amount for the period
20:12:55 <skvidal> smooge: will do
20:13:07 <skvidal> dgilmore: you're not going on the same plane, right?
20:13:08 <dgilmore> CodeBlock: pxeboot
20:13:08 <mmcgrath> dgilmore: you have any major plans for that time eriod?
20:13:14 <smooge> dgilmore, ah man.. you get all the fun trips
20:13:15 <dgilmore> skvidal: actually we are
20:13:20 <skvidal> seriously?
20:13:20 <nirik> dgilmore: cool. ;)
20:13:32 <skvidal> mmcgrath: why don't you and smooge get on that plane too
20:13:45 <smooge> they won't let me. I would need a ticket
20:13:53 <nirik> dgilmore: if you would like me to do epel pushes while you are out, let me know and we can get me trained up in doing that.
20:13:53 <skvidal> maybe throw spot and pfrields on there, too
20:13:58 <dgilmore> skvidal: from dalls to santiago  then santiago to porto alegre and soa paulo to dallas we are
20:14:16 <dgilmore> nirik: that would be good
20:14:22 <abadger1999> skvidal: We're tryign to get jsmith on the plane too.
20:14:27 <skvidal> abadger1999: that'd be nice
20:14:32 <dgilmore> skvidal: i think jarod is on different planes
20:14:33 <abadger1999> :-)
20:14:33 <mmcgrath> :)
20:14:41 <skvidal> abadger1999: maybe you could get all of the board
20:14:44 <skvidal> you could have a board meeting
20:14:52 <skvidal> hell, fesco too while we're at it
20:15:02 <mmcgrath> Ok, well I think that's all we have for the meeting.  If no one has anything else we could probably close early today.
20:15:09 <smooge> skvidal, at that point I think we would end up with an analogy of burning plane and have it happen
20:15:12 * mmcgrath sees a-k is absent so no search engine work to speak of
20:15:22 <smooge> insight was put off
20:15:29 <smooge> so my time is open up on some things
20:15:29 * skvidal is shocked
20:15:53 <smooge> mmcgrath, I would like to work on a rebuild of the stg environment in the next month
20:15:53 <skvidal> that was not excellent.
20:15:55 <skvidal> I apologize
20:16:09 * smooge went for ignoring the first time
20:16:23 <mmcgrath> smooge: sure it needs it.  I was thinking about working on it myself so we could probably just pick a week coming up and knock it down
20:16:34 <smooge> I think that would be best
20:16:49 <smooge> I would also like to get a bapp02 built
20:16:57 <mmcgrath> smooge: for what?
20:17:07 <smooge> so I sleep better at night
20:17:20 <mmcgrath> what about bapp01 causes you to not sleep at night?
20:17:38 * mmcgrath is just making sure he understands the problem / fix
20:17:51 <spot> that is a long long flight.
20:17:54 <smooge> its the only one... I don't think that it has been manually edited too much.. but I can't tell
20:18:18 <abadger1999> spot: Shorter than India :-)
20:18:24 <spot> abadger1999: indeed.
20:18:36 <smooge> I would prefer to have a backup and know that any parts that were done as fixes over time is all gotten into puppet
20:18:56 <mmcgrath> smooge: it hasn't, AFAIk everything that's on there is in puppet.  Adding a bapp02 make things redundant because we can't run the same jobs on both at the same time without messing things up
20:19:03 <spot> i think between my trips to India, China, and Australia, I'm not sure there is a longer flight I have yet to take.
20:19:07 <mmcgrath> smooge: would you feel better just rebuilding bapp1?
20:19:27 <smooge> oh I didn't know that would ahppen
20:19:36 <smooge> spot, antartica
20:19:41 <abadger1999> mmcgrath: If there's time, we could balance the cron jobs between the two servers.
20:19:42 <mmcgrath> we ran into that problem with the releng's before... twice :)
20:20:05 <mmcgrath> abadger1999: yeah but does that really gain us anything?  we're only 30 minutes away from a rebuilt bapp01 at any point in time :)
20:20:10 <abadger1999> That would entail having two separate cron schedules with them running alternately on one bapp and then the other.
20:20:21 <smooge> well actually I will feel better once app01/bapp01.stg is rebuilt
20:20:25 <mmcgrath> I'm not against a bapp2 I just want to make sure there's a good reason for it that isn't "just because"
20:20:50 <mmcgrath> yeah I think a bapp01.stg is probably over due
20:20:57 <spot> smooge: thats 18 hours. BOS to SYD is 20
20:21:38 <smooge> spot, hmmm I think its longer to go to NZ by an hour or so.. or maybe the West side of AU
20:21:51 <dgilmore> spot: i wanna go toOZ
20:22:01 <smooge> hey I want to go too
20:22:19 <mmcgrath> Ok, anyone have anything else?
20:22:23 <smooge> actually maybe FAD-UK
20:22:29 <smooge> mmcgrath, not at the moment
20:23:01 <abadger1999> mmcgrath: Yeah, we don't run any cron jobs (that I know of) that can't wait some number of hours.
20:23:02 <mmcgrath> alllrighty
20:23:13 <mmcgrath> well with that!
20:23:16 <mmcgrath> #endmeeting