15:01:37 #startmeeting Bugzappers 2010-07-06 15:01:37 Meeting started Tue Jul 6 15:01:37 2010 UTC. The chair is adamw. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 15:01:37 Useful Commands: #action #agreed #halp #info #idea #link #topic. 15:01:44 #meetingname bugzappers 15:01:44 The meeting name has been set to 'bugzappers' 15:01:46 * fenrus02 waves 15:01:50 #topic gathering 15:01:53 it's meet-y time 15:01:56 mmmm...meet... 15:02:12 hola 15:02:15 who's around? and who's physically here but mentally phoning it in from a beach somewhere? 15:02:18 * adamw joins category B 15:02:27 * jraber is here 15:02:35 hey folks 15:02:45 does it count if you have a different phone in each ear, plus an IM meeting? 15:03:07 im here 15:03:31 fenrus02: sure, why not? :D 15:03:39 hey taj, thanks for coming 15:03:46 Anyone that has already looked a https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User_talk:Jraber please look again, it has been updated (sorry for the last minute update) 15:03:47 okay, gimme a minute to butter some toast... 15:05:11 alrighty 15:05:15 #topic triage metric update 15:05:18 jraber: you're up 15:05:28 Not much new. 15:05:46 Added the "Who are the BugZappers" 15:05:49 page is looking nice 15:06:05 I have tried to make it a little nicer to look at 15:06:13 we could probably start doing a semi-useful weekly mail based on what you have already, i'd say 15:06:21 * jeff_hann is here 15:06:53 the last three 'pending' queries are kind of interesting; really, bugzappers _shouldn't_ close bugs, if everyone follows the procedures properly 15:06:54 ok by me. 15:07:39 Well, dups and WONTFIXES should make the list 15:07:46 not sure what else 15:07:48 oh, point 15:07:59 i was thinking of fixed valid bugs 15:08:21 But it does show that BugZappers are helping to eliminate the 'cruft' in BZ 15:08:53 definitely looks like there's some valuable data on your page, and clearly some components that are 'covered' aren't really; obviously we have quite a few inactive folks 15:10:07 so we could look at trying to talk to people listed on the bugzappers page who aren't on your list, and see what we can do to get them zapping again 15:10:10 hey there 15:10:33 i was reading over that stuff you sent me adamw 15:10:54 hey iarly 15:10:58 tajidinabd: cool 15:11:29 i got the basic idea of zapping so not a problem 15:11:35 ;) 15:12:29 I have made some changes to the python-bugzilla library to allow querying the Bug History data. (Getting close to brave being ready to send a patch to wwoods) 15:13:01 So some of the other metrics should be available in the near future 15:13:27 awesome, thanks jraber 15:13:50 it definitely looks like you've given us some actual numbers that can be foundations for work right away, which is what we wanted in the first place, so thanks a lot! 15:14:13 but i will need a little help to find out which bugs need triaging 15:14:16 :) 15:14:29 tajidinabd: theoretically, any newly-filed bug against a fedora component needs triaging 15:14:29 It's a pleasure. I'm glad to be learning something :) (python + bugzilla) 15:14:38 taj: any that have not been marked, no? 15:14:56 alright all the ones labeled new 15:14:59 taj: one of those links emailed out has a project list that says "needs help" 15:15:00 in practice, usually you pick a package from the list at https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/BugZappers/Components_and_Triagers and focus on bugs filed against that package 15:15:18 thanks, that's the link i meant :) 15:15:18 jraber: I'll be happy to look at whatever code you might have 15:15:24 alright 15:15:57 I've got other stuff going on but I'm setting aside time for working on python-bugzilla at least once a week, so whenever you're ready 15:15:58 wwoods: I will send it to you this evening. 15:16:01 you can add your fav. projects to an rss feeder too - then you can see new bugs pop up anytime you have a few mins 15:16:14 jraber: awesome - no rush, I'm just excited 15:16:14 heh 15:16:50 I only hope you aren't disappointed. (Remember I am a new to python) 15:17:13 don't worry, wwoods is easy to excite (rimshot) 15:17:23 alright i see one like for gtk2 15:17:32 that has no one assigned to triage that one 15:17:35 tajidinabd: you might want to start out a bit smaller =) 15:17:38 lol 15:17:40 but that's the idea, yup 15:17:42 jraber: nah don't worry about it - even if it's not a good fit for the main 'bugzilla' binary I'm happy to help people craft their own custom tools 15:17:47 (and learn a little python in the process) 15:20:15 so whats a good small one to start with 15:20:26 wwoods: happen to have a quick one-liner to locate the bugs you've been cc'd on and not been touched in 30d ? 15:20:53 fenrus02: if you can make that search happen in the web interface, you can make python-bugzilla do it 15:20:57 wwoods: as in, i've marked a few as 'needsinfo' and need to revisit them (close) in 30d if they have not been appended to 15:21:14 fenrus02: show me a search URL and I'll show you how to turn it into a query/commandline 15:21:23 ok 15:22:06 tajidinabd: just a sec 15:22:47 Regarding 'mailing the metrics to the list' I happy to receive any suggestions in regards to how to format those metrics to make them less horrible to look at. 15:23:33 tajidinabd: maybe something like compiz or gdm (sergey seems inactive atm) 15:23:50 alright ill take look around there 15:23:51 jraber: yeah, i'll try and come up with something for that. right now i'm worrying more about proventesters, though :/ 15:24:04 #agreed jraber's work looks great, thanks 15:24:15 #action adamw to look at ways to format a regular weekly stats update 15:25:33 #topic open floor 15:25:43 we didn't have anything else on the agenda, anyone have questions / proposals / problems etc? 15:26:11 nothing here 15:27:14 the workflow chart was very simple to understand 15:27:33 Last week I spent a little time and 'touched' a few of the the wiki pages. I saw "Triage Days are held each week immediately following the meeting in #fedora-bugzappers" and wonder if it was true. 15:27:33 s/wonder/wondered 15:27:46 tajidinabd: great! 15:28:01 jraber: it's kinda outdated :/ we never really got the concept off the ground 15:28:05 so we've stopped it lately 15:29:08 Is it okay to remove it then? 15:29:24 well i have some knowledge on python myself 15:29:35 I'd hate to have someone show-up and be disappointed 15:30:23 tajidinabd: checkout the python-bugzilla package 15:30:46 and maybe https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User_talk:Jraber 15:31:12 jraber: for now, sure. 15:35:32 okey dokey, i guess we're done then! 15:35:34 thanks for coming folks 15:35:57 have a goodafternoon over there 15:36:00 :) 15:36:11 Have a great day everyone. 15:36:56 hey tech33, we just finished =) 15:37:01 Tech33: did you have anything to add? 15:37:05 that's fine with me :) 15:37:09 nope 15:37:49 okey dokey 15:37:52 #endmeetiong 15:37:54 d'oh 15:38:01 * adamw puts the whisky bottle down 15:38:03 #endmeeting