16:01:12 #startmeeting IRC Support SIG (2010-07-15) 16:01:12 Meeting started Thu Jul 15 16:01:12 2010 UTC. The chair is nirik. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 16:01:12 Useful Commands: #action #agreed #halp #info #idea #link #topic. 16:01:12 #meetingname irc-support-sig 16:01:12 #topic init process 16:01:12 The meeting name has been set to 'irc-support-sig' 16:02:24 who all is around for meeting today? 16:02:29 16:02:35 * meGenius is here 16:02:47 16:02:52 16:02:54 16:03:38 * Southern_Gentlem in and out 16:04:38 ok, lets go ahead and get started... 16:04:43 #topic Week in review. 16:04:56 weekly stats at http://fedora.theglaserfamily.org/ircstats/fedora-weekly.html as always. 16:05:25 pretty typical week from my view... 16:05:41 anyone have anything to note or add ? any outstanding issues or common problems? 16:06:49 * nirik listens to the crickets chirp. 16:06:53 only that if someone uses the nvidia binary blob that it adds a nouveau blacklist 16:07:13 interesting... wonder when they added that? 16:07:17 yep, sure does. and if they ran dracut it'll be gone 16:07:28 nirik, f12 sometime 16:07:29 fenris02, nah, I had one that stayed earlier 16:07:45 assuming I was being given accurate feedback 16:08:13 might be worth seeing what fedorasolved pages could be updated with that info... 16:08:25 the removing the binary blob installer page for sure. 16:09:35 ok, I guess lets move along... 16:09:42 #topic Support Feedback process 16:09:53 I was going to write up some ideas... 16:10:00 I did do so here: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Kevin/Support_Feedback 16:10:10 but I didn't have a chance to do much else. ;) 16:10:33 If folks could look at that and add things over the next week we can see if we can come to some concrete ideas next week... 16:12:41 * plarsen reads 16:12:50 sound ok? any further thoughts we should look at today/now? 16:13:26 sounds good to me 16:13:27 more in favour of +1's than -1's 16:13:50 rewarding positive behavior goes a lot farther than punishments 16:13:53 * nirik nods. more wag, less bark. 16:14:06 looks as a good foundation nim-nim 16:14:10 nirik, ups! 16:14:11 lol 16:14:38 * fenris02 hands plarsen a biscuit 16:14:38 yeah, think the Karma plugin might help with that, maybe 16:14:49 anyhow, thats just ideas, nothing concrete. 16:15:10 dcr226: dgilmore made a patch that lets karma work... I could add it into fedbot I think somewhat easily. 16:15:43 I think that will work for helpers, sense of achievement maybe 16:17:24 perhaps. it's pretty easy to game I fear. 16:17:31 anyhow, might be worth trying. 16:17:44 well, its only going to have permissions from ops no? 16:18:00 not sure, I guess it's how we set it up. ;) 16:18:13 easy enough to unload if it becomes a botgame 16:18:19 * dcr226 resists the plug 16:19:42 ok, anything more on this? or shall we revisit next week? 16:20:08 #topic Open Floor 16:20:23 I didn't have much more planned today... anyone have general items for open floor? 16:20:37 Comment on problem user 16:21:01 * Khaytsus sneaks in 16:21:10 doh 16:21:25 N3LRX, op or non-op? 16:21:43 non-op. 16:22:23 I was playing guitar, just noticed the meeting was on :) 16:22:27 N3LRX, were they dealt with inappropriately ? 16:22:27 N3LRX: if you want you can talk more specifics over in #fedora-ops... or just tell us in general what they were doing and how we can improve dealing with them. 16:23:43 user I am concerned about is pitchfork. He has been kicked/banned several times from both #fedora and -social and continues to prove time and time again he is not going to act responsible. 16:24:30 * mharris votes to let opsec send his favourite http links to abusive users 16:25:02 N3LRX: yeah. Longer bans might be in order... 16:25:04 N3LRX, there is a process which ultimately ends up with a long term ban 16:25:20 nirik, are you able to see how many time he's been booted already? 16:25:46 we could/should check logs. 16:26:24 nirik: where n == ∞ ? 16:26:42 not sre. 16:27:03 N3LRX: anyhow, we will look into it... please let us know if that nick is being abusive again. 16:27:44 EvilBob: are you still nominating opsec for ops this week? 16:28:08 lol 16:28:47 mharris: I don't think he's here this morning... 16:28:55 mharris, eventually, yes. but most of the time the ban list is cleared about 2x/yr 16:29:05 nirik: what did you guys do to EvilBob!!?!!? ;) 16:29:18 mharris, bingo 16:29:26 ha. 16:29:48 apologies 16:31:25 DiscordianUK: welcome. No worries. 16:31:35 ok, if nothing else, I will close out the meeting in a few here. 16:31:55 N3LRX, thanks for bringing him up to attention 16:33:29 ok, thanks for coming everyone! 16:33:36 #endmeeting