01:00:03 #startmeeting 01:00:03 Meeting started Wed Aug 4 01:00:03 2010 UTC. The chair is StabbyMc. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 01:00:03 Useful Commands: #action #agreed #halp #info #idea #link #topic. 01:00:08 Hi everyone 01:00:18 Looks like it'll be a short meeting tonight so let's get rolling 01:00:18 hi 01:00:24 #topic Fedora Ambassadors NA Meeting 01:00:30 #topic Fedora Ambassadors NA Meeting - Announcements 01:00:37 So anyone have announcements? 01:00:51 i bought bacon tonight 01:01:16 Yea bacon! 01:01:20 Anyone else? 01:01:32 I just want to take the time to thanks spevack for the laptop for the Canadian Event box, I really appreciate it 01:01:34 FUDCon Tempe announced yesterday 01:02:42 It's on the Events page, yea! 01:02:53 #topic Fedora Ambassadors NA Meeting - Events 01:03:00 #link https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FedoraEvents 01:03:21 So the closest event I see is LinuxCon, which is owned by spot. 01:03:35 I'm guessing he has whatever he needs for booth and sponsorship. 01:04:15 VileGent, herlo, you guys cool with your events so far? 01:05:15 Okie dokie. 01:05:24 #topic Fedora Ambassadors NA Meeting - Budget Review 01:05:29 #link https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/NA/Budget 01:05:44 spevack, you around for budget stuff? 01:05:59 Also this is where we should discuss any need for budgeted items. 01:06:00 we should change that link to https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FAmSCo_budget maybe 01:06:22 #link https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FAmSCo_budget 01:06:45 or just redirect 01:06:55 tonight was supposed to be quaid and lcafiero_afk telling us what they need, are they here? 01:07:37 what they need for?? 01:08:17 inode0: you mentioned maybe needing a bunch of stickers, what's up with that? 01:09:22 yes, we might but I don't don't really know today what we might need 01:09:36 do you recall the cost/# we got last time? 01:09:48 One second, I'll look it up. 01:10:44 $675 + shipping for 3000 01:11:46 well if we have 3000 of them we should be good - someone may need to send me a few hundred later 01:11:59 inode0: I don't know that we have 3000 anymore. 01:12:01 I'll update when I know 01:12:17 Mine are almost gone, maybe 50? 01:12:21 I'm sure we don't but there must be a lot 01:13:09 anyway, all I can do is bring it up again when needed - or if we know we want more we can just re-order 01:13:26 kk 01:13:29 let's just re-order when convenient for you? 01:13:51 those are great and we'll definitely use them 01:13:53 +1 for re-order when convenient 01:14:02 not like we are planning on changing logo anytime soon 01:14:14 mchua: what's the NA budget look like, can it take an additional $700 for stickers this quarter? 01:14:27 don't ask, we have money 01:14:46 hi all 01:14:51 Okie dokie, it shall be done. 01:15:00 * herlo forgot the meeting was happening :/ 01:15:04 StabbyMc: I... don't know, I thought y'all had a place to keep track of budget? 01:15:19 * mchua doesn't stay atop Ambassadorial budgetary matters, is really just a credit card minion here. 01:15:33 I can mention we also are reordering t-shirts - about 100 will go to Southern_Gentlem & OLF, the rest to spread around 01:15:49 mchua: we are good with budget understanding, don't worry 01:15:56 w00t 01:16:13 Oh, can I request the creation of men's S or women's shirts? 01:16:35 Since... people my size do show up to the events we go to, and even if there aren't many of us it would be nice to have something for them? 01:16:35 mchua: the long sleeve button up comes in any size you want and in womens :-) 01:16:38 mchua: we do - and we are very understanding that max's card is burning a hole in his pocket 01:16:40 Yay! 01:16:45 you can request but I think that will be a fail this time since I think the order went out yesterday 01:16:57 Can I request some shirts? I would like to have some to put in the event box and for my own events 01:16:59 the only addition was some 2XL 01:16:59 No worries. :) I didn't have a particular event in mind, it's just something I'd love to see in orders in general. 01:17:14 mchua: I'll keep that request in mind for next order 01:17:23 * mchua nods, thanks! 01:17:33 djf_jeff: is it easier for us to just pay to have them made there? 01:17:46 Oh, and note for LinuxCon that we've got F13 liveCDs (and possibly some DVDs) left over from OSCON coming up for that. 01:18:04 ke4qqq: maybe, I should look up the price 01:18:10 spot reported having a box too 01:18:16 mchua: you know that the shirts can shrink up to a size after washing, is that still too big? 01:18:20 djf_jeff: we can send you some I'm sure 01:18:26 but I will surely go to Raleigh again in September, maybe pick them up there 01:18:33 did someone get usb drives and how much were they and what size and did it include logo? 01:18:34 that works too 01:18:56 crossbytes: I think the answer is no 01:19:00 djf_jeff: they are REALLY bulky - when they get shipped to me they come in a box larger than a large desktop pc shipping box. almost the size of the event box. 01:19:18 we had Live CD's left over from OSCON? 01:19:19 StabbyMc: Yep, still too big. 01:19:20 crossbytes: lots of people talked about it - to my knowledge no one has done any follow up work on it. 01:19:32 2GB USB with logo run around $10 iirc 01:19:42 ke4qqq: do you have a rough estimate how do they cost to make? just to have a reference when asking price here 01:19:43 crossbytes: SO many CDs left over from OSCON. What LinuxCon is getting is the leftovers ianweller and I didn't manage to give away. It's... a decent pile. 01:20:03 djf_jeff: ~5USD when our quantity is 280+ 01:20:15 I mean, not terribly much, but... about a cubic foot, I think. 01:20:26 I got quotes on custom USB sticks from the supplier used at the Summit 01:20:31 Expensive 01:20:33 ke4qqq: good, I will check for some quotes around here to see if it could be cheaper 01:20:53 cool - let us know, otherwise we can ship you some 01:20:56 OSCON Portland? 01:21:27 I have one other item that sort of falls in here 01:21:46 * inode0 waits for the floor 01:21:51 * ke4qqq listens to inode0 01:22:19 there was recently some discussion about swag, contributors, etc. on f-a-b 01:22:41 one of the suggestions, which we've considered in the past, was to get custom lanyards 01:23:07 we normally reject them because they are a bit of a mess to get made and most people only wear them once 01:23:34 thought: make nice custom fedora lanyards to give to contributors attending FUDCon tempe 01:24:02 we expect these contributors will attend multiple conferences and will wear this fedora gear to all of them 01:24:16 as a way of showing their fedora allegience 01:25:10 nice ones appear to me to run under $3 each - I'd like to make maybe 250 - with half going to FUDCon and the other half to be used by ambassadors however we think best 01:25:25 +1 for Fedora Ambassador custom lanyards 01:25:30 +1 01:25:57 inode0: is there a benefit to getting them made in larger quantity for fudcon emea 01:26:00 as well 01:26:06 +1 ke4qqq 01:26:25 I'd have to go back and look 01:26:37 isn't that next month? 01:26:44 I don't think they can be made that fast 01:26:49 think it's end of next month 01:27:21 they have a 4 or 5 week delivery lag normally and I don't have approved artwork or anything yet 01:27:37 ahhh ok 01:27:59 but I'll check on where the cost breaks are and how much they are 01:28:16 they weren't going to be huge though 01:28:29 do it quickly :) 01:28:41 do what quickly? 01:28:48 cost breaks 01:28:52 and purchasing 01:29:09 give me the artwork tonight and I'll do it all quickly 01:29:19 inode0: for lanyards? 01:29:24 otherwise I'm going to be waiting on the artwork 01:29:31 wouldn't it just be the blue color with a white fedora and the logo? 01:29:39 or vice versa? 01:29:44 seems easy enough to me 01:29:51 then you do it 01:29:56 no 01:30:00 * inode0 is finished 01:30:04 I was giving a suggestion 01:30:38 Any other budgetary itemy things? 01:31:11 #topic Fedora Ambassadors NA Meeting - Unfinished Business 01:31:25 Any unfinished business? 01:31:30 StabbyMc: is this the same thing as 'open floor'? 01:31:34 if not, I'll wait 01:31:48 herlo: no its for things that are outstanding I think. 01:31:59 k 01:32:00 * herlo waits 01:32:02 I think I'll take it off the agenda though and just go to open floor. 01:32:08 #topic Fedora Ambassadors NA Meeting - Open Floor 01:32:14 whee! 01:32:15 * StabbyMc yeilds to herlo 01:32:20 or yields? 01:32:28 * herlo is so pedantic tonight, sorry 01:32:29 anyway 01:32:46 I know that inode0 has heard this idea and mchua came up with it, but I think we need to implement this idea sometime sono 01:32:52 or soon 01:33:03 Fedora takes the RHCE 01:33:24 the idea being that we get together a FAD of sorts, to help Fedoran's study and then take the RHCE 01:33:32 once a quarter or something like that 01:34:07 have RH/Fedora foot the bill for 5-7 exams depending on demand. I think there's a good possibility of some sort of good discount on the exam... 01:34:18 herlo: we're going to have to get permission from GLS, and I have a feeling they'll be stingy. 01:34:27 and if played right, they can use it for promotion 01:34:30 so who is gonna own this? 01:34:33 StabbyMc: permission for what?? 01:34:42 giving exams with no rev. 01:34:45 to study for the exam?? 01:34:53 No for giving it. 01:34:59 rev == revenue? 01:35:07 StabbyMc: ^^ 01:35:10 Ya. 01:35:12 okay 01:35:21 StabbyMc: yeah, that's the part where we'll have to see how it goes 01:35:26 * herlo plans to own it btw, ke4qqq 01:35:35 cool 01:35:35 herlo: I can help too if needed. 01:35:38 I'm thinking we can work something out either way.. 01:35:40 StabbyMc: awesome! 01:35:51 would this be for contributors or users and if users should that not fall as part of the Fedora Scholarship maybe? 01:36:17 contributors, and there would be criterion 01:36:22 well criteria 01:36:33 not sure how that's all going to work yet, but yeah, like the scholarship 01:36:38 herlo: one of the issues may be that Fedora skills aren't always backwards compatible to RHEL. 01:36:53 crossbytes: I don't think it's something that's a Fedora Scholarship per se 01:37:01 StabbyMc: indeed, whcih is why the study sessions are vital 01:37:40 for now, that's all I've got, just wanted to get feedback here and will check in periodically as we develop the program 01:37:47 sounds like there is definitely some interest in this idea 01:37:53 wow this sound great would love to learn more is there a wiki? 01:38:00 * herlo thanks mchua for the idea and ianweller for telling me about her idea 01:38:16 crossbytes: not yet, we can meet offline and create something probably 01:38:55 * herlo is finished on that topic and done with any open floor stuff he had to bring up 01:39:27 sounds good but I am busy till after the 8th my daughter is getting married 08/09/10 01:40:02 crossbytes: no worries 01:40:13 crossbytes: I don't plan to have it going too soon, so that shoudl be fine 01:40:58 i will e mail you or you me this sounds like a great project to work on. 01:41:08 cool 01:41:28 crossbytes: sounds like with you and StabbyMc, we should knock this out quickly 01:42:06 Ok, any other Open Floor? 01:42:50 Alright, that's meeting. 01:42:54 #endmeeting