05:07:03 #startmeeting i18n 05:07:04 Meeting started Thu Aug 26 05:07:03 2010 UTC. The chair is juhp. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 05:07:04 Useful Commands: #action #agreed #halp #info #idea #link #topic. 05:07:21 #meetingname i18n 05:07:21 The meeting name has been set to 'i18n' 05:07:51 hi 05:07:55 welcome to this week's i18n meeting 05:07:58 hi tagoh 05:08:04 https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/I18N/Meetings/2010-08-26 05:08:39 hi 05:09:32 hi 05:09:46 hi 05:09:53 hi 05:09:55 hi 05:13:11 ok 05:13:20 let's get started 05:13:44 sorry for late start - toomanymeetings... 05:16:38 hi 05:18:11 #topic F14 05:18:13 ok 05:18:55 2010-09-07 Software Translation Deadline 05:18:55 2010-09-14 Beta Change Deadline; Features 100% Complete 05:19:45 so under 3 weeks to beta freeze 05:21:00 no blockers and 2 targets 05:21:43 any updates for https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Documentation_I18n_Beat? 05:22:42 dueno, fujiwarat: could you expand a bit on eekboard and input-pad there please? (don't need a lot of detail) 05:23:00 juhp: sure 05:23:21 cool thanks 05:23:36 Sorry, I didn't get time by today. 05:23:45 great 05:25:31 added a note about changes to imsettings for X compose 05:26:08 I forgot to mention last time: 05:26:40 I believe there is a QA testday coming up soon for anaconda translations and keyboards 05:27:02 seems to be moved to 16th now 05:27:18 https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Day:2010-09-16_AnacondaTranslationKeyboard 05:27:40 bit related to i18n to mentioning it here 05:28:20 #topic bugs day 05:28:54 paragan: thanks for the announcement 05:29:08 welcome 05:29:19 want to say something on it? :) 05:30:15 http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/i18n/2010-August/001049.html 05:30:25 so next week 1st Sept 05:30:38 yes we are going to organise bugs day event 05:30:59 we will check all the Input Method bugs in Fedora 05:31:34 and see if we can update them by either closing it or adding "Triaged" keyword 05:32:29 ok. some bugs can perhaps to moved to newer or older release too 05:32:44 guess we can use #fedora-i18n ? 05:33:44 #topic bug stats 05:33:59 I didn't have time to update the dashboard... 05:34:00 yes 05:34:06 ok 05:34:36 will do it after this 05:35:13 #topic fonts/rendering 05:36:50 any topics to discuss? 05:37:05 yeah 05:37:29 https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=627171 05:37:59 while working on .bug 623995 05:38:19 i found some bugs are from fonts and some from qt 05:38:26 now i have resolved most of the from fonts 05:38:30 now its time for qt 05:38:58 aha 05:39:04 qt is not processing blwf feature properly, thats why all of the indic oriya fonts fails in qt for below base substitution forms 05:39:20 hmm 05:39:24 afaik this is the only remaining bug 05:39:40 will try to give some more update in next week 05:39:48 cool 05:41:24 paragan: you had something on fontconfig? 05:42:36 anything else? 05:43:02 #topic input-methods 05:43:39 I made a new bz url for IM but missing lots of components 05:43:52 dunno if there is a better way to track input bugs 05:45:03 juhp, not quite should whether you want to track upstream bugs. 05:45:11 though these two grouping are missing lots of other packages I realised 05:45:17 paragan, yes we are still in need of updated from behdad 05:45:40 dychen_: good question 05:45:50 But some of which are bugs in Ubuntu.... 05:45:58 we need ortho files to be updated soon in fontconfig 05:46:00 and other source. 05:46:11 dychen_: might be too much but maybe bugs that affect fedora 05:46:18 for here I mean 05:46:24 paragan: ok 05:46:34 paragan: which is most urgent? 05:46:48 I think ne_NP 05:47:46 ok 05:47:55 last update? 05:48:54 fujiwarat, dueno: wondering how to proceed with the surrounding-text support for ibus-gtk? 05:49:00 I have these bugs reported in upstream http://ln-s.net/7Waf 05:49:31 paragan: that's a lot 05:49:47 Yes, as you know, we have several discussions in this week. Today I noticed phaung is on vacation. 05:50:01 I will talk about it two weeks later. 05:50:15 I wrote a blog most about the recent changes to imsettings related to X locale compose (xim) and unicode input 05:50:25 fujiwarat: okay cool 05:50:49 would be good if we can get agreement upstream :) 05:51:00 most = post 05:51:39 paragan: wondering how to proceed - perhaps you could ask mclasen for advice? 05:51:57 ok I will send him a mail 05:52:05 or maybe we can get them into fedora? 05:52:07 ok 05:52:28 .bug 627256 05:52:30 dueno: Bug 627256 [abrt] ibus-m17n-1.3.0-3.fc14: __strlen_sse2: Process /usr/libexec/ibus-engine-m17n was killed by signal 11 (SIGSEGV) - https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=627256 05:52:46 I suspect this bug is also found in other ibus IMEs 05:53:12 aha 05:53:38 dueno: I see 05:53:53 dueno: so just need rebuild? 05:54:04 juhp: yes 05:54:18 wonder if ibus should break soname then in future for such changes 05:54:55 In my test, currently I saw the problem in ibus-m17n only because ibus-m17n modifies the IBusEngineDesc.rank is modified while the structure size is changed. 05:55:05 aha 05:55:41 so we don't need to rebuild all IMEs every time there is version update? 05:56:23 thanks 05:56:31 any other issues? 05:57:06 #topic package reviews 05:57:11 any updates? 05:58:05 fujiwarat: thanks for checking 05:58:09 Sorry for the inconvenience. Currently I have the plan to modify ibus_engine_description_new2 to use va_list format. 05:58:16 ghostscript-chinese passed review by paragan 05:58:43 working on fontik package review today 05:59:41 tagoh: so mozc is done - thanks! 05:59:48 cool 06:00:38 juhp: yep. though the package only built for f15 so far and waiting for pushing gyp to stable since the fix of the updates are required to get the right thing 06:00:58 okay :) 06:01:19 -overrides might be applied to that though but not asking releng about it 06:01:19 nkumar: how about ibus-table-other? 06:02:35 ok 06:03:15 fine 06:03:24 #topic open 06:03:43 any other updates or news to share? 06:04:27 otherwise let's close the meeting shortly 06:04:41 next meeting is same time next week here 06:06:01 thanks everyone :) 06:06:14 #endmeeting