01:00:20 #startmeeting 01:00:20 Meeting started Wed Sep 8 01:00:20 2010 UTC. The chair is StabbyMc. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 01:00:20 Useful Commands: #action #agreed #halp #info #idea #link #topic. 01:00:26 #topic Fedora NA Ambassadors Meeting 01:00:31 #topic Fedora NA Ambassadors Meeting 01:00:38 Hi everyone it's time to stat the meeting. 01:00:48 #topic Fedora NA Ambassadors Meeting - Announcements 01:01:11 I've put announcements on the menu. Any takers with announcements? 01:01:46 If you haven't signed up to go to FUDCon NA, please do so! :) 01:01:57 http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FUDCon:Tempe_2011 01:01:58 :) 01:02:11 Yea FUDCon! 01:02:23 Any more announcements? 01:02:50 Announcements. 01:02:52 3 01:02:57 2 01:03:02 1 01:03:08 #topic Fedora NA Ambassadors Meeting - Events 01:03:18 #link https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FedoraEvents 01:03:30 is inode0 present? 01:04:30 Ok, in lieu of inode0 being here... 01:04:35 * inode0 is here! 01:04:37 Anyone have events that need something they're not getting. 01:05:06 in that case 01:05:08 #topic Fedora NA Ambassadors Meeting - Events - SXSW Interactive 01:05:11 * rbergeron notes that Ontario Linux Fest can be removed from the event calendar 01:05:15 #link https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FedoraEvents/SXSW_2011 01:05:18 since it has been cancelled 01:05:30 inode0: I yeild the floor. 01:05:40 Is mizmo around? 01:05:40 yield even 01:05:50 no 01:06:04 ok, so here is the proposed plan as I understand it 01:06:06 nope, I don't see mizmo. 01:06:53 As you can see there is a healthy budget shaping up only part of which will come from us 01:07:16 which part of it will come from us? 01:07:36 well, it looks like things have changed a bit 01:07:48 oh 01:08:08 basically we will pay for mizmo and emily to attend although it now looks like one will get in free (from our budget perspective) 01:08:33 spot will be handling the booth and travel for the others attending 01:09:05 oh, spot will be paying for the booth? 01:09:24 that is my understand and for his and jsmith's travel 01:09:41 okay 01:09:51 so it looks like the grand total for ambassadors will be in the $1500 neighborhood 01:10:08 maybe a little more than that 01:10:42 since this event isn't until next March we are going to be able to pay bits here and there 01:10:48 * rbergeron nods 01:10:51 so it doesn't all hit us at once 01:11:05 * rbergeron is totally +1 on this 01:11:23 right now (this month) we need to order one registration it appears for $450 01:11:33 * threethirty is +1 for whatever his +1 is worth 01:11:55 Well, looking at the budget, there's plenty of $$ left in the budget. 01:12:11 So anything we can pay now will be something that doesn't hit next year. 01:12:13 we can purchase the $450 ticket through nov. 12, it says above 01:12:30 yes, if we have leftover budget after fudcon we can load plane fare in there as well. 01:12:33 so, hearing no objection I'll pass on to those involved to go ahead with getting the registration done early when it is cheapest 01:12:55 the key thing to get is to get spot on the booth registration asap before that price goes up 01:13:21 SOLD! 01:13:30 that is spot's business from my perspective - he brought it up and was very enthusiastic about it 01:14:24 one thing to note is that we might have to send them with quite a bit of media - we might make note of that somewhere to order a bit extra for that event, maybe ask spot how much he thinks he will need given that that trade show brings in like 10k people 01:14:32 err, exhibitor hall 01:14:33 okay, we'll forge ahead with this 01:15:03 I thought the exhibit hall was new this year? 01:15:25 * lcafiero_ sneaks in the back door and sits down 01:15:26 not from what i read, unless they worded it weird 01:15:29 * rbergeron will look into it 01:15:39 are we still talking about sxsw? 01:15:45 but we'll work with spot about getting him whatever he needs much later ... since we can't plan swag that far in advance really 01:15:47 mock: yes. 01:15:50 ok 01:16:28 inode0: they have pictures from last year's event... so I'd imagine it's not new 01:16:31 36k registrants 01:16:59 yeah, but they aren't all going there - lots only go to pieces of the event 01:17:10 10K might though 01:17:11 * rbergeron nods 01:17:21 yeah - even if like... 10% go - that's more than most of the shows we go to 01:17:29 but we aren't going to have 10K of anything but maybe tattoos :) 01:17:38 * rbergeron grins 01:18:11 ok, let's ping spot for details as they develop 01:18:20 and move on 01:18:42 rbergeron: ack about Ontario Linux Fest. 01:18:56 Anyone else got events that need things that aren't getting things? 01:19:09 StabbyMc: Atlanta Linux Fest has been canceled also 01:19:20 damn 01:19:26 Yes, though they might be merging it with SELF next year. 01:19:36 Or becoming the new SELF location. 01:19:55 Oooo hadnt heard that... 01:20:22 Other Events news? 01:20:50 3 01:20:52 Ohio Linuxfest is happening this weekend and it appears we have an all star crew 01:21:03 i got the Tshirts today 01:21:21 as far as i know we are a go 01:21:28 i hope so, since my bag is packed :) 01:21:45 i will pack the car thursday nite 01:22:41 who else is going, do we know? 01:22:41 next 01:22:48 i will be there 01:22:52 YAY 01:22:59 #topic Fedora NA Ambassadors Meeting - Budget Review 01:23:01 rbergeron, you mel, david. paul, spot 01:23:05 #link https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FAmSCo_budget 01:23:06 me, mock 01:23:33 i have a booth schedule on the wiki page 01:23:40 So I don't know that there's a lot of review for budget. 01:23:47 * mock waves 01:23:50 Right now the page indicates we're under budget, which is good. 01:23:57 kind of. 01:24:13 there is quite a bit in the works 01:24:18 True. 01:24:23 #topic Fedora NA Ambassadors Meeting - Budget Review - F14 Media Production 01:24:28 For example. 01:24:40 I don't know who owns this item on the agenda. 01:24:56 herlo isn't here either so I'll just mention this as I promised I would do 01:25:22 There was a discussion on f-a-b a short time back about the sort of media we produce 01:25:38 * rbergeron nods 01:25:49 The gist of it is that we should consider producing double sided DVDs 01:26:13 We have considered that in the past - but now appears to be a good time to reconsider doing it again 01:26:15 x86/x86_64 being the sides? 01:26:20 yeah 01:26:44 so you don't need to know which you want, or both, and we won't run out of the wrong one, etc. 01:27:18 if our vendor can do it 01:27:19 they cost a little more to make - maybe herlo can investigate costs and report back? 01:27:21 they can 01:27:27 we priced it before 01:27:30 I'm interested. 01:27:48 at least I am pretty sure we did 01:28:29 the other thing related to this is that ambassadors who have been working shows should 01:28:37 * threethirty likes the dual sided idea 01:28:54 +1 01:28:55 help us understand what the community visiting our booths have been taking/asking for/etc. 01:29:06 * mock didn't know they made double sided dvds 01:29:26 * inode0 points mock at the opensuse media 01:29:29 OpenSUSE has them, or at least had them at one time 01:29:42 * lcafiero_ doesn't type as fast as inode0 01:29:42 * rbergeron nods 01:30:01 who the heck is lcafiero_ ? ;-) 01:30:09 so let's give herlo as much info as we can about demand 01:30:14 heck if I know. 01:30:22 the other guy's still at the farmers market 01:30:24 and our feelings about going double sided 01:30:34 oh, hey lcafiero, didn't recognize you with the _. 01:30:48 that's all I really have on this item 01:30:51 inode0, if we can afford it we can try it 01:31:49 #topic Fedora NA Ambassadors Meeting - Budget Review - Windows Key Stickers 01:31:57 ooh! 01:32:03 rats 01:32:06 f14 we dont have as many of events 01:32:16 * lcafiero_ had more to say about media. will wait until another time 01:32:29 please go ahead 01:32:31 lcafiero_, say it now 01:33:00 true on f14 01:33:03 well, regarding the breakdown of media, livecd vs dvd, I tend to end up with a lot of dvds left over 01:33:05 I thought we were done with this topic, but go ahead and finish the discussion. 01:33:11 and run out of livecds 01:33:35 so for another meeting I'll agendize a discussion of the breakdown of livecds to dvds. 01:33:38 that's it. 01:33:53 +1 01:33:56 +1 01:34:01 better make it the next meeting and invite herlo :) 01:34:01 * lcafiero_ yields to window key stickers 01:34:05 OK 01:34:11 well lcafiero_ you also have more live events you do ( farmers market) 01:34:13 I can also bring it up on the mailing list 01:34:26 some, yeah. 01:35:41 sorry to sidetrack, StabbyMc 01:35:54 No worries, my bad for advancing th emeeting too quickly. 01:36:06 VileGent: you want the floor? 01:37:21 not really 01:37:38 Ok, so the topic kind of says it all. 01:37:43 so we are just being teased 01:37:55 I need a little bit of design love from mizmo, but then I'll get to ordering a small run. 01:38:19 I like the idea. 01:38:34 small run means that they won't be as cheap as we may want them, but if we like them, it'll be easy to order more. 01:38:54 in terms of numbers what does small mean? 01:39:06 hundreds or thousands? 01:39:08 250 sheets of 8 stickers each. 01:39:23 That's what I'm planning. 01:40:18 250 is the smallest quantity that we can order, I thought 8 stickers per sheet would be a good size for cutting. 01:41:09 with good spacing tearing even 01:41:30 They're going to be vynl so probably not tearable. 01:41:53 oh 01:42:20 oh we have meeting? 01:42:22 * nb is here 01:42:43 In other news, I'm working on getting a black shirt like the white one that is currently available. 01:43:07 But that's all I have on my plate right now. 01:44:19 VileGent: anything to add? 01:44:24 nope 01:44:52 roughly 2000 itty bitty stickers 01:45:11 how is everyone else doing on swag 01:45:22 sorry I'm late : 01:45:23 * inode0 has no balloons 01:45:30 :) 01:45:39 A little low on livecds and shirts, but OK on everything else, including balloons. 01:45:55 considering i go to school, pens would probably be helpful for me (and no ballons...never knew we had any? lol) 01:45:57 but I have nothing coming up until f14 01:45:58 lcafiero_, you should be getting a load of shirts soon 01:45:59 I am alright on 32bit live cd's 01:46:03 probably don't need balloons though 01:46:09 I have nothing else 01:46:34 * threethirty has a ticket in... i have no f13 discsor case badges at all 01:46:35 do we have any posters? 01:46:35 well i am asking the distrobution points like lcafiero_ and nb 01:46:54 I could put one up in my new office (since i'm the campus ambassador) 01:47:03 rhl nope 01:47:03 oh, sorry, hehe 01:47:04 same here 01:47:07 haha 01:47:08 Ok, since we've moved, on, changing the subject... 01:47:14 #topic Fedora NA Ambassadors Meeting - Unfinshed Business/Open Floor 01:48:05 i actually have something 01:48:11 i think im pretty good on everything except laptop stickers 01:48:16 not exactly ambassador related, but at least pertaining to fedora 01:48:52 threethirty, oh, i need to ship yours 01:48:55 i think it was assigned to me 01:49:01 but i think you were the one that didn't put an address 01:49:02 let me see 01:49:39 i could just keep my thing to the mailing list, since it's not urgent or anything 01:49:52 or you could just say it :) 01:49:59 works too haha 01:50:10 i moved to new hampshire, am really confused in generally (ahem inode0), and am the campus ambassador there now. 01:50:27 threethirty, yeah, we need your address 01:50:46 rhl: we don't have any posters that I know of. 01:50:55 after Ohio Linuxfest my supplies are pretty much gone 01:51:02 well, i've been pretty interested lately in the OMG!Ubuntu! site because it's pretty nice to go to (i bet a few of you have been there before too at one point). Well, to keep it short, since they also have a sister site OMG!SUSE!, I wanted to start an OMG!Fedora! kinda thing, and wanted to ask if anyone wanted to help with that. 01:51:09 StabbyMc, in that they don't exist, or they aren't in stock? 01:51:21 * inode0 never heard of it 01:51:23 rhl: as far as I kno, don't exist. 01:52:25 inode0: it's a pretty nice site that has constant updates about Ubuntu and other apps, etc. Since they also have one for SUSE, why should Fedora not be involved like that? 01:52:34 rhl: we have some poster graphics that you can print, but don't have posters made 01:52:53 Ah, I see, where do they exist at? 01:53:04 dmaxel: I know nothing about it so I can't really answer questions 01:53:50 dmaxel, site seems like fedoraplanet 01:54:00 Ok, it's about that time, lets wrap up. 01:54:05 (but for ubuntu) 01:54:15 dmaxel -- why don't you ask on the mailing list to a wider audience, I bet you'll probably get some folks willing to help. But your mentor will encourage you to work on projects to promote fedora that you feel comfortable doing. 01:54:40 it's more than fedoraplanet, rhl. But it's kind of hard to describe. 01:55:01 yeah, true, i'm understating things. 01:55:01 +1 01:55:02 Ok folks, that's meeting. 01:55:06 * inode0 points dmaxel in the direction of mizmo to discuss that site 01:55:13 +1 01:55:18 to inode0 01:55:23 #endmeeting