21:02:29 <brunowolff> #startmeeting Spins SIG (2010-10-04)
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21:02:39 <brunowolff> #meetingname spins-sig
21:02:39 <zodbot> The meeting name has been set to 'spins-sig'
21:02:51 <brunowolff> #topic who's here?
21:03:03 <brunowolff> It should be a very short meeting today.
21:03:17 <brunowolff> Unless someone else has something.
21:03:30 * brunowolff is here
21:03:50 <brunowolff> #topic spins status
21:04:25 <brunowolff> #info All extra spins are composing are currently under their target size.
21:04:47 <brunowolff> Design Suite is now targeting 1GB, not CD.
21:05:22 * nirik is here too.
21:05:25 <nirik> sorry for being late.
21:05:27 <brunowolff> I haven't got final board approval clearance for meego yet. But it will be out in some form.
21:05:37 <nirik> Xfce is back under size.
21:05:59 <brunowolff> Don't worry, as it's not going to be a long meeting unless you have stuff.
21:06:28 <nirik> nope. not much from me.
21:06:40 <brunowolff> I checked the spins pages on the nightly composes earlier today and they all had built and were under size.
21:07:21 <brunowolff> mizmo had told me that they changed (or confirmed) that the target for design suite is 1GB.
21:07:33 <nirik> ok.
21:07:45 <brunowolff> #action brunowolff will add a target size column to the spins release page.
21:08:12 <brunowolff> I want to record the target sizes somewhere since it is getting harder to just know.
21:08:19 <nirik> yeah, good idea.
21:08:32 <jsmith> brunowolff: Sorry, just getting in here... what do you mean by "final board approval clearance"?
21:08:36 <brunowolff> One place will be the release page, since that's what release engineering will be referring to.
21:08:55 <brunowolff> Meego is still in waiting for board state.
21:09:13 <brunowolff> The last time I asked there was still stuff to do related to trademarks.
21:09:22 <jsmith> Here's the deal.
21:09:39 <jsmith> We had to go to the Linux Foundation attorneys to get permission to call it "MeeGo Spin by Fedora"
21:09:43 <brunowolff> No one has told me that that has been completed since that ping. (About a week ago I think.)
21:09:54 <jsmith> We got that worked out, assuming we follow their compliance docs
21:10:05 <jsmith> Problem is, the compliance docs haven't been finished yet
21:10:23 <jsmith> but all indications are that they're going to require us to use connman instead of NetworkManager
21:10:34 <brunowolff> I just need to be told that the board has is OK with the spin. And it is in approved state.
21:10:34 <jsmith> So we're going to go the route of not using the MeeGo trademarks nor artwork
21:11:04 <jsmith> OK, I didn't know you need a formal OK from the Board... I'll take care of that
21:11:13 <brunowolff> I have assumed that everything would be worked out in the end; I am just not sure whether or not the end has been reached yet.
21:11:15 <jsmith> Any other spins we need to consider while we're at it?
21:11:31 * jsmith didn't mean to side-track the meeting
21:11:57 <brunowolff> All the others were approved previously and didn't have any significant changes that would require reapproval by the board.
21:12:13 <brunowolff> Meego / Moblin had a name change that triggered the review.
21:12:52 <brunowolff> I'd like to be able to clear that issue. And it is definitely on topic for Spins status.
21:13:09 <brunowolff> Just tell me when its done.
21:13:55 <brunowolff> So things are looking pretty good so far.
21:14:13 <brunowolff> The next issue will be getting people to test their spins before the release.
21:14:59 <brunowolff> I am still behind in going through the various test plans for a few that would generally apply to spins and would be worth testing separately
21:15:06 <brunowolff> per spin for odd issues.
21:15:25 <brunowolff> #topic anything else?
21:15:43 <brunowolff> Does anyone have anything else that they want to cover today?
21:16:45 <brunowolff> I guess I can say, taht while not much is going on, I'd like to keep weekly meetings planned until the release so that we can keep
21:16:55 <brunowolff> an eye on any issues that crop up.
21:17:31 <brunowolff> After the release things may change a lot. But I haven't been notified of a what's going to happen to spins meeting yet.
21:17:51 <brunowolff> Though it was talked about having one a bit after the beta release.
21:18:59 <brunowolff> Okay, that looks like it for today. Thanks for participating.
21:19:04 <brunowolff> #endmeeting