23:00:35 <Sparks> #startmeeting Docs Project Meeting - Agenda: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Docs_Project_meetings 23:00:35 <zodbot> Meeting started Wed Oct 6 23:00:35 2010 UTC. The chair is Sparks. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 23:00:35 <zodbot> Useful Commands: #action #agreed #halp #info #idea #link #topic. 23:00:35 <Sparks> #meetingname Fedora Docs 23:00:35 <zodbot> The meeting name has been set to 'fedora_docs' 23:00:35 <Sparks> #topic Roll Call 23:01:30 <Sparks> ./me is here 23:01:33 <Sparks> heh 23:01:53 * bcotton is here 23:02:08 <Sparks> bcotton: Greetings! How are things? 23:02:30 <bcotton> sparks: hectic, just the way i like it :-) 23:02:39 <Sparks> heh 23:02:51 <Sparks> I think bethlynn is here as well 23:03:12 * bethlynn is here 23:05:15 * rudi is here and sorry for being late 23:06:34 <Sparks> rudi: You are right on time! 23:06:54 <Sparks> Doesn't look like a big turnout tonight so we'll just zoom through what we can. 23:07:16 <Sparks> Okay, let's get started. 23:07:31 <Sparks> #topic Follow up on last week's action items 23:07:39 <Sparks> Sparks to set default ticket holder to Docs list to allow everyone ability to see new tickets 23:07:44 <Sparks> I did not do this... 23:08:00 <Sparks> I am hoping to get the discussion moving on the list to get a better game plan. 23:08:09 <Sparks> #action jjmcd to document the process of translating non-English source guides 23:08:16 <Sparks> nb: Are you here? 23:08:36 <nb> yeah 23:08:37 <nb> i am 23:08:44 <Sparks> nb will look into providing a way for infra to create the l10n drafts 23:09:24 * nb is working on it 23:09:30 <Sparks> #action nb will look into providing a way for infra to create the l10n drafts 23:09:37 <nb> i just made the puppet commit to give docs-publishers a shell on publictest04 23:09:45 <Sparks> Okay... and that's all the old business. 23:09:55 <nb> [nb@publictest04 conf.d]$ id sparks 23:09:56 <nb> uid=102043(sparks) gid=102043(sparks) groups=102043(sparks),100366(ambassadors),100002(cla_done),101441(cla_fedora),124009(cmsadmin),100297(cvsfedora),100301(docs),147872(docs-publishers),147868(docs-writers),100148(fedorabugs),146905(gitdocsite-publican),124010(gitfedora-cms),123430(gitfedora-wiki),140408(gitrespin-guide),147669(gitweatheralert),100300(packager),100075(web) context=user_u:system_r:unconfined_t 23:10:03 <nb> that part works now at least 23:10:07 <Sparks> heh 23:10:28 <Sparks> #topic Release Notes 23:10:37 <Sparks> #info jjmcd on leave... who can help with tasks? 23:10:58 <Sparks> #link https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Release_Notes_schedule 23:12:04 <Sparks> jjmcd's email to the list included some task items for the RNs. If you can take some of these tasks please reply to that message on the list. 23:12:18 <Sparks> #info The Release Notes are frozen for Beta. 23:12:23 <Sparks> Anyone have any questions? 23:13:19 <Sparks> #topic Guide Status 23:13:26 <bethlynn> sparks: is there still time to write a beat for the release canidate? 23:13:31 <Sparks> #link https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Docs_Project_guide_goals_for_F14 23:13:50 <Sparks> bethlynn: I THINK so but jjmcd is the lead on the RNs so I'm not sure. 23:14:27 <bethlynn> did jjmcd say how long he was jumping off the grid? 23:14:33 <Sparks> Unknown 23:15:02 <Sparks> He's been on and off the grid the past few days 23:15:22 <Sparks> The link in the Release Notes topic may yield some answers. 23:15:29 <rudi> If they're frozen, then I think now 23:15:31 <rudi> *not 23:15:41 <rudi> And they *should* be frozen by now 23:15:48 <Sparks> They are frozen for Beta... I think there is one more thaw period... 23:16:09 <rudi> OK 23:16:26 <Sparks> Of course there are always 0-day updates, right? :) 23:17:10 <rudi> Heh 23:17:46 <Sparks> Anyone have anything to report on the guide front? 23:18:01 <Sparks> #info Security Guide up on docs.fp.o and translations are underway 23:18:19 <Sparks> #info Working on readme-burning-isos now. 23:18:49 <Sparks> bcotton: What are you working on? 23:19:37 <bcotton> sparks: working on cleaning/updating RPM Guide...it's slow going, unfortunately 23:20:02 <bcotton> i'm a little busy this week, but if there are "Real" guide that need effort, i can work on them for the f14 release 23:20:11 <Sparks> cool 23:20:17 <bcotton> since the RPM Guide is still dead for all intents and purposes 23:20:49 <Sparks> Should you aim for F15? 23:21:08 <bcotton> i think i originally was aiming for about f11-ish 23:21:28 <bcotton> i can probably get a "less-drafty" version finished for f15 though 23:21:36 <Sparks> heh 23:21:41 <bcotton> which might help get more bugs filed so I have a better idea of what needs updated 23:21:42 <Sparks> Things happen... 23:22:06 <Sparks> bcotton: Getting it out into the public eyes really helped the SG 23:22:13 <bcotton> a lot of what i've been doing so far has been simple janitorial work 23:22:56 <Sparks> Okay. 23:23:07 <Sparks> Anyone have anything else they would like to discuss? 23:23:28 <bcotton> i guess i'll go ahead and say that i'm aiming for f15 though... gives me a real deadline :-) 23:23:40 <Sparks> bcotton: I'll hold you to it! 23:24:14 <bcotton> ^$@#& 23:24:27 <Sparks> heh 23:24:47 <rudi> On that note, are we going to see the ARG for this release? 23:25:20 <Sparks> rudi: We should be able to scrape out all the incomplete stuff and ship the rest... right? 23:25:25 <rudi> Yeah 23:25:38 <rudi> *Adding* stuff never causes problems for anybody 23:26:06 <rudi> It's changing or dropping stuff that wastes people's time :) 23:26:18 <rudi> (unncessary changes, that is...) 23:26:32 <Sparks> #action Sparks to get the Amateur Radio Guide ready for release for F14 23:27:02 <Sparks> Okay, anything else before we move on? 23:28:14 <Sparks> #topic Outstanding BZ Tickets 23:28:22 <Sparks> #link http://tinyurl.com/lbrq84 23:28:56 <rudi> I've made the blocker list! Yay! :) 23:29:00 <Sparks> heh 23:29:05 <Sparks> I'm not sure that's a good thing 23:29:14 <rudi> Oh! :( 23:29:20 <Sparks> #info 93 open tickets 23:29:27 <rudi> Anyway, that's embarrassing and I'll have them fixed today 23:29:53 <Sparks> heh 23:30:45 <Sparks> I've gotten some very interesting tickets recently. Make sure you are keeping up with your inputs! 23:30:57 <Sparks> #topic Open floor discussion 23:31:01 <Sparks> Anyone have anything? 23:32:45 <Sparks> Okay, well I'm sitting in my LUG meeting... 23:33:01 <rudi> Just a reminder to everyone to upgrade to Publican 2.2 ASAP 23:33:39 <Sparks> rudi: Good call 23:34:28 <Sparks> And give it some karma! 23:34:37 <bethlynn> is there anything small I can help anyone with tonight? like proofreading? 23:35:05 <bethlynn> or wiki gardening? 23:35:24 <Sparks> bethlynn: the Security Guide could always use some love 23:35:45 <bethlynn> is that on the wiki? 23:35:49 <Sparks> no 23:35:54 <Sparks> docs.fp.o... under 14 23:37:34 <Sparks> Okay, anyone else? 23:38:40 <Sparks> Okay, thanks everyone for coming out tonight! 23:38:47 <Sparks> #endmeeting