19:00:03 #startmeeting Fedora 14 Release Readiness Meeting 19:00:03 Meeting started Thu Oct 28 19:00:03 2010 UTC. The chair is poelcat. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 19:00:03 Useful Commands: #action #agreed #halp #info #idea #link #topic. 19:00:21 how's everyone doing today? 19:00:26 dandy 19:00:36 hi 19:01:32 greetings! 19:02:05 ke4qqq jsmith mmcgrath Oxf13 meeting time 19:02:19 any mizmo sightings? 19:02:29 * gholms wakes up, realizes there's an unusual meeting today 19:02:57 Sparks_too: around? 19:03:37 poelcat: Yo 19:03:56 * rbergeron waves at gholms ;) 19:04:00 we'll wait 60 seconds and then jump in w/ the teams here 19:04:02 * ke4qqq_ shows up 19:04:43 poelcat: Oh, we're having a meeting! :) 19:05:10 * gholms thought the release was already declared gold 19:05:35 gholms: making sure everyone *else* is ready - docs, marketing, websites, etc :) 19:05:35 yes, we're here to do a quick trip around the teams to make sure we're coordinated for release day 19:05:44 #topic Documentation Team 19:05:55 Sparks_too: how are things looking? anything you need to discuss or coordinate? 19:06:26 poelcat: I think we are on go! 19:06:41 poelcat: The Release Notes will be updated over the weekend... 19:06:56 and all other guides will be posted Sunday evening. 19:06:56 how about the guides and coordination with translation? 19:07:04 excellent 19:07:17 any of the other teams need something from docs or have questions? 19:07:28 nope 19:08:02 #topic Translation Team 19:08:07 thanks Sparks_too 19:08:16 noriko: how about from your team? 19:08:29 anything we need to know or can help you with? 19:08:48 yea, we are going well. I have just one general question for websight from the team. 19:09:03 grrr, website. 19:09:21 can I ask now or later? 19:09:33 ask away 19:09:59 though i'm not sure we have a respresentative from the web team 19:10:08 sijis said he would come 19:10:29 up, I sm not sure too, who to ask and that is why I am asking here. It seems to relate Eurpoean language, pls check these two screenshots 19:10:37 https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/File:Fp.o-vista.png 19:10:43 https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/File:Fp.o-rhel.png 19:11:05 First screenshot contains wrong char for the opening question sesntence. 19:11:21 How, where and whom to address for this issue? 19:11:33 good question 19:11:40 kind of hard w/o someone from the web team 19:11:47 First screenshot = font problem on Windows Vista. 19:11:49 can anyone speak for the web team? 19:13:16 well, this is disappointing... kind of the point of this meeting 19:13:22 :( 19:13:27 noriko: let's see/hope someone shows up eventually 19:13:42 poelcat: sure, thank you. 19:13:42 noriko: anything for the translation team? 19:13:56 nop! :-)) 19:14:02 noriko: thank you 19:14:13 #topic Quality 19:14:21 jlaska: what do we need to know? 19:14:40 #info QA is good to go and on track for remaining tasks 19:14:47 As with each release, we'll keep an eye on forums and test@ list for any issues that surface and need addressing (CommonBugs, workarounds etc...) 19:15:01 Adamw and I (contributions welcome) will be documenting the CommonBugs issues between now and release day 19:15:12 * jlaska feeds meetbot some links ... 19:15:14 great to hear 19:15:16 #link http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Common_F14_bugs 19:15:18 #link https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_14_QA_Retrospective 19:15:38 the process for tagging a bug for Common_F14_bugs is linked to above 19:15:38 does anyone have questions for the QA team? 19:15:59 and if you have comments/thoughts/input on what worked, or what we could improve ... the "suggestion box" is above as well :) 19:16:14 poelcat: that's all I've got, thanks 19:16:19 thanks jlaska 19:16:26 #topic Marketing 19:16:34 rbergeron: what'd we know, how can we help? 19:16:47 I think we're good. I have one question - 19:17:08 Who is sending out the final announcement - jsmith, or someone from release engineering (Oxf13)? 19:17:39 dgilmore commented when sendingout the beta announcement that copyign from the wiki to flat email text required a lot of reworking, and i was going to fix that up and send it to the right person. 19:18:00 So i can either send it to a list, or a human directly, whatever is preferred, but would like to know who or what is preferred to make that a bit smoother for that person. 19:18:09 * stickster comes in a little late 19:18:21 rbergeron: The final release announcement is sent by the FPL 19:18:30 rbergeron: rel-eng handles the test phase announcements (Alpha, Beta) 19:18:53 okee dokee. that's what i thought, but having confirmation is good. ;) 19:19:26 other than that: I think we're good. 19:19:43 any teams have questions for rbergeron ? 19:19:54 rbergeron: jsmith has confirmed that he's working with Red Hat PR on their press release for F14 GA release day 19:20:06 poelcat: I have a hard stop... anything else for me? 19:20:13 rbergeron: Do we expect to have one-page release notes on GA day? 19:20:17 Sparks_too: i think we're good... thanks 19:20:22 stickster: yes. 19:20:46 rbergeron: superb 19:21:23 * nirik arrives late. 19:21:29 rbergeron: thank you 19:21:34 #topic Other Teams 19:21:48 do we have anyone representing: Design, Release Engineering, Infrastructure, or Websites? 19:22:00 or Ambassadors? 19:22:05 poelcat: Do you want me to ping a couple people? 19:22:16 i did in the beginning 19:22:18 OK 19:22:55 ke4qqq is here for ambassadors 19:23:01 * gholms wonders if all four EC2 images will be ready 19:23:29 or was anyway 19:23:29 * mmcgrath here 19:23:30 * ke4qqq is here - but nothing really to add - we are relatively squared away 19:23:53 #topic Ambassadors 19:23:56 * skvidal is just spectating 19:24:02 ke4qqq: anything for the record? :) 19:24:14 nothing - we are good to go :) 19:24:17 or any team need to coordinate with ambassadors 19:24:23 ? 19:25:00 rbergeron: Are there plans for a PDF copy of the one-page release notes that Ambassadors will be able to hand out? Having that PDF on release day is probably not vital, but maybe within the week after would be good 19:25:11 stickster: always :) 19:25:21 ke4qqq: ^^ Would you say that's helpful for Ambassadors? We did one for F13 that seemed to be really well received 19:25:26 sorry all 19:25:43 stickster: absolutely - esp with release parties imminent 19:26:30 I don't have anything further wrt. Ambassadors poelcat 19:26:38 thanks ke4qqq stickster 19:26:43 #topic Infrastructure 19:26:52 mmcgrath: what do we need to know? 19:27:07 besides your usual "everything is ready" :) 19:27:11 AFAIK we're in pretty good shape 19:27:33 smooge is going to be handling most of this release because of my parting but at the moment we don't really have any unknowns 19:27:33 mmcgrath: do you have anythings that need coordinating with releng? 19:27:51 the new website has shipped and while it is much larger then the old site, I don't think this will cause us any problems on release day. 19:27:56 nothing more then the usual. 19:28:10 mmcgrath: You just pre-empted my question, thanks :-) 19:28:11 any questions for infrastructure? 19:28:22 mmcgrath: i will actual add, that i'm glad we did it prior to ga 19:28:25 good call 19:28:28 No doubt 19:28:36 :) 19:28:43 #topic Websites 19:28:53 sijis: noriko had question about the website 19:29:02 noriko: can you ask them again? 19:29:24 usre, sijis could you check these two screenshots 19:29:32 https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/File:Fp.o-vista.png 19:29:36 https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/File:Fp.o-rhel.png 19:29:52 First one has font rendering problem on vista. 19:30:08 how and where can we address the problem? 19:30:37 this relates to european languages. 19:30:55 noriko: on the first screenshot, we think it could be something with the font Confortaa (if i recall the name correctly) 19:32:10 the majority of our complains have been font related on Windows systems 19:32:18 noriko: Is the problem that upside-down question mark character? 19:32:32 Thanks for fixing the no-javascript brokenness. 19:32:40 noriko: I thought that in Spanish, that was the proper character to start a question 19:32:56 stickster: I'd say right-side-to-left question mark character. 19:33:01 It supposed to be rotated 180 degrees, not flipped vertically. 19:33:07 i know there is a specific one mentioned about the prefix ? character and i havne't looked at that one as closesly. i understood mizmo thought it maybe specific to the embedded font 19:33:11 used 19:33:12 Oh, I see! 19:33:15 It's backward 19:33:33 Compared to the one above.... I totally missed that, thanks noriko :-) 19:33:38 I like to add hear that all img attributes missing alt attribute 19:33:46 in spanish, it should be like the rhel.png screenshot 19:33:50 sijis: Right 19:34:16 right 19:34:17 prabindatta: Please report any problems to the websites@ list -- this is a readiness meeting but I know that the Websites team would love to hear ideas for improvement on their list 19:34:19 so, how should the actual rhel.png look like? the first one? 19:34:27 vista.png ? 19:34:59 sijis: The vista.png has it wrong; the rhel.png is correct <-- right, noriko? 19:35:20 stickster, sijis confirmed. rhel.png is correct. 19:35:51 ok. i better understand the problem now 19:36:20 sijis: would it make more sense to move this to the website list? 19:36:59 probably. or stopy by #fedora-websites too 19:37:02 poelcat: +1 19:37:18 noriko: Good catch -- looks like we could report this to the Confortaa font developer and have him fix it 19:37:20 noriko: i'll look at that today and talk with mizmo too. 19:37:27 ok. sijis would you like me to file a bug in bugzilla or a ticket in somewhere? 19:37:41 sijis: anything else to coordinate w/ the other teams for release day? 19:37:55 any of the other teams have quesions for sijis ? 19:37:56 noriko: here would be good: https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-websites/report/1 19:38:05 i have something for infra though 19:38:20 got it. 19:38:38 mmcgrath: i may ask for a code change, so we can stop syncing fp.o for a couple of days. that way we can update the iso links and whatnot in prep for ga 19:39:15 i will put the request on the list with the exact changes i'll be asking for 19:39:36 thanks sijis 19:39:42 #topic Open Discussion 19:39:57 anything else to cover today... too bad we don't have design or release engineering 19:40:05 sijis: possibly, lets chat in #fedora-admin 19:40:28 I know if jsmith were here, he would say thank you to everyone for pulling together to make the release happen with only a single one-week slip -- our best performance in many, many releases 19:40:37 mmcgrath: ok 19:40:54 Another question for you website folks? 19:41:00 go for it 19:41:01 (Maybe #fedora-websites would be better) 19:41:15 How come the net install CD isn't on http://fedoraproject.org/en/get-fedora-options#formats ? 19:41:18 to gholms earlier question, who is coordinating the EC2 images? 19:41:24 poelcat: jforbes 19:41:42 okay 19:41:49 anything else before we wrap up? 19:42:04 * rbergeron thanks poelcat 19:42:09 gholms: Re: EC2 images, FYI --> http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/cloud/2010-October/000317.html 19:42:31 poelcat: Special thanks and congrats to you also for helping us stay close to schedule! 19:42:39 stickster: Don't worry; I already asked him my question. ;) 19:42:58 you're welcome... thanks to everyone else who did their part too! :) 19:43:12 it was the smoothest end of release I've seen 19:43:18 thanks again everyone 19:43:20 #endmeeting