03:08:20 #startmeeting Fedora Ambassadors Meeting Minutes 2010-11-07 - APAC 03:08:20 Meeting started Sun Nov 7 03:08:20 2010 UTC. The chair is dramsey. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 03:08:20 Useful Commands: #action #agreed #halp #info #idea #link #topic. 03:08:32 #chair asmartgoat dramsey lcafiero sgordon 03:08:32 Current chairs: asmartgoat dramsey lcafiero sgordon 03:08:44 .fas dramsey 03:08:44 dramsey: dramsey 'David Ramsey' 03:08:59 .fas asmartgoat 03:08:59 asmartgoat: asmartgoat 'Luke Martinez' 03:09:04 Agenda at link - https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/Meetings/2010-11-07#Agenda 03:09:13 let's see if this works... 03:09:17 .fas sgordon 03:09:18 sgordon: sgordon 'Stephen Gordon' 03:09:20 I am David from Tokyo and I use both Fedora 13/14 with DVD and USB. 03:09:22 yep 03:09:28 #topic Ambassadors Members Pinging 03:09:48 Please tell me about yourselves... 03:10:15 .fas lcafiero 03:10:15 lcafiero: lcafiero 'Larry Cafiero' 03:10:26 Im luke from Melbourne australia, soon to be in adelaide. I use 13 still :( - asmartgoat@fedoraproject.org 03:10:32 f13* 03:11:04 I'm steve from Brisbane working on docs for RH and also trying to get involved in writing the cloud guide for fedora 03:11:12 Larry Cafiero, North America, just observing. Ambassador mentor in NA. Fedora 14 on the laptop, various fedora version on other machines. 03:11:19 looking to help out with making sure fedora has a presence at linux.conf.au :) 03:11:25 +1 03:11:33 +1 to linux.conf.au 03:11:40 +1 03:11:52 #topic News from FAmSCo 03:11:59 Welcome to APAC! 03:12:07 Welcome! 03:12:11 Home of the APAC box! 03:12:33 we just started azneita... 03:12:33 Welcome azneita...at member pinging, we have a couple new folks here. 03:12:55 * azneita waves to the room 03:13:22 asmartgoat, should we continue on FAmSCo or next topic? 03:13:35 waves to azneita! 03:13:37 i have no news 03:13:42 Okay.., 03:13:43 #topic Report current Status of upcoming events 03:14:02 I just did my Fedora 14 Tokyo as well as Akihabara this morning. 03:14:17 Fedora 14 Release Parties - https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/F14_release_events#Upcoming_Release_Parties_-_Fedora_14 03:14:20 just finished with our release party last friday 03:14:43 will post the report soon.. the other guys from our team have the pics 03:14:47 At Quezon City, Philippines, right? 03:14:51 yep 03:15:03 Fantastic, I look forward to reading the reports. 03:15:16 i'm recruiting local ambassadors too :D 03:15:35 +1 03:15:36 organizing a presentation... if anyone has some spare swag please contact... :) 03:15:37 I think sgordon is attending the Linux.Conf.Au 03:15:59 yes, im presenting at the cloud miniconf with someone from work 03:16:01 asmartgoat, I think that Harish has a boatload of Live media which may be to your advantage. 03:16:07 but i registered for a full ticket last night 03:16:07 +1 sgordon! 03:16:12 OMG 03:16:31 cloud miniconf sounds awesome! 03:16:35 alright, i will contact harish 03:16:41 early birds close today i think if anyone else wants to get the cheaper ticket rate 03:18:02 #link http://lca2011.linux.org.au/ next month from 24th - 29th January, at Queensland University of Technology (QUT) - Gardens Point Campus. 03:18:04 Sounds grand! 03:18:19 anyway we have a number of people who can assist, it's just a matter of what you guys are planning and need help with 03:19:09 Yesterday, we had some input from Tuan (tuanta) who is doing the FOSSASIA event 03:19:33 #link https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Release_Party_F14_HCMC 03:20:29 sgordon, I could write an idea for the APAC ambassadors to e-mail yourself and/or someone else,, what do you think? 03:21:10 dramsey, that is probably the best - we have a meeting on friday and have plenty of people available, we really just need to know how we can assist and where to be :) 03:21:27 for instance will there be a booth at the open day, should we bring along some lappys for demoing f14 etc 03:22:04 Okay, do you want to add attend #fedora-meeting/-1 at some Friday IRC time? 03:22:06 Cool! 03:22:17 i should be able to do that yeah 03:22:21 Understood. 03:22:28 Okay, great! 03:22:32 Also, I read in the Fedora Ambassadors' mailing list about someone doing an event in Sydney, too. 03:22:34 week days are much easier for me and i have other stuff in fedora-meeting fridays anyway :) 03:22:46 Okay, certain IRC timeframe on Friday? 03:23:36 umm pretty much anywhere between about 7AM and 5PM AEDT 03:23:49 Go it 03:23:58 7AM is the fedora cloud SIG so that's why im in early :)\ 03:24:03 So #fedora-meeting? 03:24:04 Ah! 03:24:06 yup 03:24:17 I wanted to attend that, the EC2... 03:24:17 so 03:24:17 :D 03:24:49 yeah, apparently a host of other providers put up 0-day images too so we are looking at how to publicize 03:24:49 #idea APAC Ambassadors attend #fedora-meeting IRC channel at 07:00 AEDT in order to contact personnel who can assist... 03:25:16 Saw the Fedora virtualized images nice, Camtasia Studio demo stuff. :) 03:25:33 it might be better later than that, i want to try get one of the others in as well 03:25:47 say 9 or 10? 03:25:51 Understood...virtualization and cloud is the future. 03:26:13 Okay, changes idea to 09:00 or 10:00 AEDT for Friday 03:26:35 #idea Revised time APAC Ambassadors attend #fedora-meeting IRC channel at 09:00 or 10:00 AEDT in order to contact personnel who can assist... 03:26:48 cant go. sorry 03:26:57 buisness hours :( 03:27:36 asmartgoat, may be share e-mail address / contact information with sgordon... 03:27:38 .fas sgordon 03:27:40 sgordon: sgordon 'Stephen Gordon' 03:27:57 * azneita just checked yesterday's log 03:28:00 .fas asmartgoat 03:28:00 asmartgoat: asmartgoat 'Luke Martinez' 03:28:01 i am happy to be contacted on that address for anything related to linux.conf.au :)\ 03:28:07 Af future correspondence/meeting with Red Hat professionals will be advantageous for your growth and development. 03:28:10 :) 03:28:26 azneita, i need you to send me your email and phone. :) 03:28:35 .fas azneita 03:28:36 azneita: azneita 'Heherson Pagcaliwagan' 03:28:38 azneita, wonders if asmartgoat, may be sponsored to attend the event... 03:28:43 .fas dramsey 03:28:45 dramsey: dramsey 'David Ramsey' 03:28:54 Food for thought. 03:29:00 dramsey: i see no reason why not :D 03:29:01 Thanks everyone for sharing their ideas. 03:29:06 Let's try!" 03:29:10 rather not, im not approved yet. :) 03:29:27 i'll give my thumbs up now :D 03:29:32 me, too! 03:29:34 hehe 03:29:35 thanks :) 03:29:57 #idea asmartgoat to attend linux.conf.au to develop with Red Hat professionals... 03:30:04 +1 03:30:08 Good stuff everyone... 03:30:11 Any other good stuff or next topic. :) 03:30:14 +1 03:30:16 my other question is has a proposal been sent in for a booth on open day 03:30:41 anybody running with that stephen? 03:30:42 Does this need some support from Fedora people? 03:30:50 Good question, azneita 03:31:11 i believe we want fedora somewhere in there provided we have people on the ground 03:31:19 azneita, not that i know of and i guess thats the question 03:31:28 aha 03:31:48 luke, still want to come? 03:31:50 there are plenty of red hatters attending the conference so i am sure we can get the people, it's just about organisation 03:32:07 * asmartgoat relises that i wouldnt be able to go because im still moving then and then starting my last two years of schooling... 03:32:09 +1 03:32:22 nah 03:32:27 January 24th to 29th... 03:32:30 maybe the year after 03:32:53 s/+1/+1 for Red Hatters attending... 03:32:56 we need to decide early because of the tickets, right? 03:33:04 yeah exactly 03:33:08 #info proposal been sent in for a booth on open day 03:33:22 #info decide early for attendance at linux.conf.au 03:33:36 dramsey: anybody else down under beside luke? 03:33:53 although perhaps on open day it isn't as important? 03:33:54 I recollect their are a couple folks, one was trying to do an event at Sydney... 03:34:08 Understood, what day is open day, sgordon? 03:34:29 There are 8 people in australia 03:34:36 the saturday i think 03:34:41 check... 03:34:50 #link http://lca2011.linux.org.au/programme/open_day 03:35:00 29th 03:35:18 #idea Fedora Ambassadors to try and attend the Open Day at When: 29th January 2011, 10am to 4pm 03:35:18 Where: The Edge, State Library Queensland, South Brisbane 03:35:18 Cost: This is a free event. 03:35:23 #idea talk to Kaio (who lives in brisbane) about going to LCA 03:35:26 +1 03:35:28 #link https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Kaio 03:35:49 i will contact kaio directly i think 03:36:16 #action sgordon to contact kaio 03:36:19 :)\ 03:36:20 Cool guys 03:36:21 thanks 03:36:22 :) 03:36:37 Kaio is a great guy, very knowledgeable 03:36:59 * azneita remembers "with enough eyeballs, all bugs are shallow" 03:37:14 hahaha 03:37:28 Other thoughts or next topic? 03:37:38 ah linuses law 03:37:47 true... 03:39:04 Looks around for 03:39:17 ideas/suggestions.... :D 03:39:20 i'll talk to luke separately for details on apckbox 03:39:32 my action item :D 03:39:40 :) 03:39:54 hmm i have one thing to talk about semi-related to apackbox... 03:40:07 fire away 03:40:16 :) 03:40:22 #topic APAC plans 03:40:31 APACK box! - APACK box - Freemedia, Swag - Other? 03:40:42 please, empower us, asmartgoat 03:40:52 as you probably know i am in the process of writing an application for olpcs from laptop.org, they want a team leader who should recieve the Laptops (and distribute them). Who shall do that??? 03:41:17 six OLPCs, correct? 03:41:19 #idea get somebody to be team leader for the OLPC application 03:41:21 yes 03:41:28 i have formed half the application 03:41:36 Understood. 03:41:51 but who shall the OLPC's be shipped to and who shall ship them out? 03:42:14 i suppose i can do that 03:42:23 if there are no objections 03:42:25 Agreed? 03:42:29 Go for it! 03:42:30 :) 03:42:31 I think that for our APACK box to be successful, concensus and understanding amongst the Fedora group is requisite and definitely a needed. :) 03:42:47 Thank you, azneita 03:42:58 I was hoping this 03:42:59 :) 03:42:59 no prob 03:43:18 i'll take the ball before giving it to luke next year :D 03:43:19 haha 03:43:33 +1 likes the baton handling concept. 03:43:34 :) 03:43:57 I had a little reflection last night about the APACK box, to refresh the distribution countries...looks to asmartgoat for a reminder... 03:44:04 #action Azneita to be the team leader in the OLPC section of APACK box 03:44:09 umm 03:44:21 i dont really understand what your getting at? 03:44:26 India. 03:44:29 China. 03:44:35 forgot the others... 03:44:37 oh, the countries 03:44:41 Yup 03:44:44 let me grab the list.. 03:45:06 #link https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/APAC/APACK_Box 03:45:15 Philippines 03:45:17 Australia 03:45:19 Japan 03:45:22 Vietnam 03:45:23 India 03:45:25 and china 03:45:35 any thoughts? 03:45:48 That is it! 03:46:03 i'll update that wiki page... 03:46:12 Yes, I was thinking that I have my own in process and I would like to opt that my APACK box be given to India... 03:47:23 Yesterday, with Ankur here, I was thinking how an APACK box put together probably at least two in India from Mumbai/Delhi/Calcutta/Bombay would be good, but need to identify responsible persons for being the hub/spoke concept as made note by lcafiero 03:47:44 so that's two for india. i think it's reasonable - india is a big place and there are many ambassadors there 03:47:48 Start with one best ambassador in India and take from there. 03:47:51 yes! 03:47:56 alright 03:47:57 The market is immense. 03:48:05 Thank you asmartgoat. 03:48:32 lets see if we can get the olpcs by jan for LCA? 03:48:43 +1 03:48:50 timing is everything... 03:48:52 sgordon, if you could review our APACK box and give us your Red Hat special touch to make best, we would appreciate your input. :9 03:49:05 s/:9/:) 03:49:10 it's an interesting idea, i will have a look 03:49:18 Thank you. :) 03:49:22 probably have to forward it on to someone else to get anything meaningful :)\ 03:49:38 That's cool, we appreciate any input to help us. :) 03:49:39 that would be awesome 03:49:57 My best Tom Cruise 'Jerry McGuire' "Help me, help you!" :D 03:50:37 Do we need any goodies, freemedia/swag/others? 03:51:00 i 'want' swag for a small presentation 03:51:19 cool, livemedia, correct? 03:51:24 what kind? 03:51:36 Something about CDs burning, correct? 03:51:48 yeah ill talk to who was it... 03:51:54 herson? 03:52:02 no 03:52:05 that's me :D 03:52:06 i forgot 03:52:07 harisj 03:52:11 harish! 03:52:11 harish 03:52:15 yes, correct 03:52:18 Yes, Harish Pillay. 03:52:36 for that, but if anyone has spare swag, (anything) it would be nice 03:52:41 for a small event 03:52:48 Harish is very supportive, I think Harish will mail his Singaporean goodies to our APAC folks, nice set of software on it. 03:53:00 Always good to have stuff! 03:53:29 that is true. :) 03:53:39 Other thoughts or next topic/ 03:53:51 You can do it! 03:53:56 Yes, we can! 03:54:49 Remembers yesterday's foss.in in Bangalore 03:55:05 noted by Ankur Bangalore 03:55:23 http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2010-11-06/fedora-meeting.2010-11-06-03.20.log.html at 04:45:20 03:55:35 as well as 04:45:14 * lcafiero is the keeper of one of two NA event boxes 03:56:04 lcafiero shared very useful ideas on how North America used Event Boxes... 03:56:16 I like this discussion. 03:56:25 oh yes 03:56:51 Should we go open floor topic or other goodies to discuss? 03:56:56 but keep in mind we are a collection of islands. while NA is just one continent. 03:57:04 True! 03:57:15 Therefore, the essence of the APACK boxes for us. 03:57:28 Timing may be great...just need funding to support 03:57:46 I think we APAC are game to do the right thing...need bucks for Buck Rogers! 03:57:51 so, azneita that adress you gave me, its fine to give to laptop.org? 03:58:23 yep 03:58:27 cool 03:58:36 +1 everyone! 03:58:57 and should i write herson or heherson on the name? 03:59:06 im not too sure. :) 03:59:19 heherson 03:59:28 Definitely the serious ambassador to support. 03:59:30 I think with sponsorship of this idea, great things will transpire. 03:59:37 k 03:59:40 k 04:00:10 hello :) 04:00:13 * asmartgoat will be back soon.. 04:00:15 * FranciscoD managed to wake up 04:00:20 .fas FranciscoD 04:00:21 FranciscoD: ankursinha 'Ankur Sinha' 04:00:21 this is probably a stupid question but is there a donation mechanism for this kind of activity 04:00:28 Hello FranciscoD 04:00:29 if individuals want to contribute?\ 04:00:36 Hello dramsey 04:00:55 sgordon: donations with respect to what? 04:00:55 sgordon, great question, there is a donation for Free Media 04:01:33 what are we discussing btw? 04:01:39 the media draft by any chance? 04:01:55 APACK box, right now FranciscoD 04:02:19 sgordon, if Red Hat has goodies for us, then there are some very worthy Fedora folks with open minds and hands to receive 04:02:24 ah, okay. 04:03:04 alright, all i can do is forward it on and you never know but cant promise anything im afraid :( 04:03:21 That is okay, we are always open to help. 04:03:26 sgordon: right now, funding comes from CommArch 04:03:59 sgordon, asmartgoat started the concept of APACK box for the APAC countries. The Event Box started in EMEA, then moved onward to North America, now APAC is innovating the concept. 04:04:19 +1 azneita 04:04:34 and adapting it to our unique geography... 04:04:38 yes! 04:05:02 I think that the concept has been brought to fruition... 04:05:24 FranciscoD, I presented two APACK boxes for India, what do you think/suggest? 04:05:33 Im sorry, i have to go, i will review logs... 04:05:35 dramsey: that's plenty 04:05:36 cya 04:05:44 Take care, asmartgoat. :) 04:06:05 dramsey: will asmartgoat make them and ship them off? 04:06:12 "...Yesterday, with Ankur here, I was thinking how an APACK box put together probably at least two in India from Mumbai/Delhi/Calcutta/Bombay would be good, but need to identify responsible persons for being the hub/spoke concept as made note by lcafiero..." 04:06:32 or can we make them ourselves, thus saving the shipping cost? 04:06:37 Ankur, the initial Trac instance will be done by azneita. 04:06:43 I was thinking the same! 04:07:06 dramsey: should I put this up on the india list and fish for volunteers? 04:07:10 ;) 04:07:11 ? 04:07:38 * FranciscoD will be in bangalore by Jan when college ends 04:08:05 Respectfully, I see great India need, so with India 04:08:10 Please, let us do! 04:08:21 You have the freedom and power, FranciscoD 04:08:42 #link https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/APAC/APACK_Box#What_the_APACK_boxes_will_contain 04:08:50 Total Cost per Small Event Box = $239 (or $39 from laptop.org) buys a lot in India... 04:09:09 I think with the responsible Ambassador, hub and spoke the box... 04:09:26 we'll try to check if we can have the olpcs shipped directly to recipients 04:09:35 yeah, iirc, there was a discussion about an event box earlier on the list, and they will make one for foss.in anyway, so why not this? 04:10:27 I think an APACK box or my feeling I would give my Japan APACK box to support India is best. :) 04:10:33 Food for our thoughts. 04:10:43 dramsey: IIRC we already have an OLPC :P 04:10:47 Please share with foss.in 04:10:58 Cool, may be another one/two 04:10:59 :) 04:11:02 * FranciscoD played on it when he went to FAD pune 04:11:16 Understood 04:11:21 haha 04:11:24 #topic Open Floor 04:11:41 dramsey: folks from redhat pune, who are also fedora ambassadors/contributors are contributors to the OLPC, so i don't think OLPC is an issue :D 04:12:05 Okay, good to review the APACK box concept and provide feedback. 04:12:09 +1 04:12:49 If you have ideas to help our OLPC, then please share so asmartgoat and azneita may benefit from your lessons learned. 04:12:59 yep 04:13:16 like people to ping :D 04:13:31 +1 04:13:36 * FranciscoD couldn't figure out how to open the OLPC laptop XD 04:13:51 hahaha 04:14:08 We have just clicked over one hour in IRC. 04:14:13 actually, no one sort of could, it's sort of "adult proof" :| 04:14:18 Other thoughts? Looks around... 04:14:20 hahaha! 04:14:28 nicely put 04:14:56 nothing else on my end dramsey 04:15:04 random link : http://www.colbertnation.com/the-colbert-report-videos/363111/october-25-2010/nicholas-negroponte 04:15:18 (nicholas negroponte is the chairman of OLPC) 04:15:47 all good from here too, weekends arent great for me but i will try drop in when i can 04:15:49 Me, too, just vote for FAmSCo and Board #link https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FAmSCo_election_2010_nominations 04:15:58 Thank you all for joining today. 04:16:10 #link https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Board_nominations 04:16:10 +1 04:16:22 Okay, close meeting then? 04:16:43 aye 04:16:48 Thank you all for attending! :) 04:16:48 AYE AYE 04:16:52 Have a great day! 04:17:02 Great to see you all! 04:17:04 5 04:17:04 4 04:17:05 3 04:17:06 3 04:17:06 2 04:17:09 1 04:17:11 0.5 04:17:15 0 04:17:18 bye 04:17:18 #endmeeting