02:31:22 #startmeeting 02:31:22 Meeting started Sun Nov 21 02:31:22 2010 UTC. The chair is azneita. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 02:31:22 Useful Commands: #action #agreed #halp #info #idea #link #topic. 02:31:51 :) 02:31:55 Hello Everyone! 02:31:59 hi 02:32:02 :) 02:32:08 #topic Ambassador Pinging 02:32:21 still sloppy :) 02:32:39 #chair dramsey bckurera KageSenshi asmartgoat 02:32:39 Current chairs: KageSenshi asmartgoat azneita bckurera dramsey 02:32:58 erk .. many chairs? 02:32:59 Pefect! 02:33:01 .fas azneita 02:33:01 azneita: azneita 'Heherson Pagcaliwagan' 02:33:08 .fas izhar 02:33:08 .fas dramsey 02:33:08 KageSenshi: izhar 'Mohd Izhar Firdaus Ismail' 02:33:12 dramsey: dramsey 'David Ramsey' 02:33:16 .fas bckurera 02:33:17 bckurera: bckurera 'Buddhika Kurera' 02:33:22 we're playing musical chairs today :) 02:33:27 hehe 02:33:59 who else are we expecting today? 02:34:12 where our special guests? 02:34:30 oh sorry, didnt realise weve started 02:34:32 .fas asmartgoat 02:34:33 asmartgoat: asmartgoat 'Luke Martinez' 02:34:37 asmartgoat and other great ambassadors 02:34:50 i believe we're all here 02:35:03 any FAmSCo members around? 02:35:09 asmartgoat, good job on the meeting page! We need to track action items, my only suggestion. 02:35:25 Hopefully kaio and gbraad become our FAmSCo guys 02:35:40 arnt you running for famasco dramsey? 02:35:41 and a certain guy ;) 02:35:58 dramsey willl be there too :) 02:36:13 Anything is possible 02:36:24 Vote for who you would like. 02:36:35 :) 02:36:42 have everybody voted btw? 02:36:43 We APAC need support like, susmit and harish did 02:36:59 Good shoes to fill 02:37:00 i have already voted 02:37:15 #idea APAC ambassadors please vote! 02:37:23 already done :) 02:37:59 done here 02:38:19 ok then, let's move along 02:38:32 #topic News from FAmSCo 02:38:47 dramsey? 02:38:51 Welcome lcafiero 02:38:55 done here 02:39:37 * azneita welcomes lcafiero 02:40:06 move on? 02:40:09 #link https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/Meetings/2010-11-21#Agenda 02:40:11 Yup 02:40:25 #topic Report current Status of upcoming events 02:40:30 Page says no news from FAmSCo 02:41:06 true bckurera, only if someone has some good stuff to say. 02:41:09 :) Biweekly Akihabara with Fedora 14 - like now! :) 02:41:42 * KageSenshi restarting the fedora-my meetups in kl .. will be having one on 4th dec 02:41:44 All the events for the 2010 is finished here in Sri Lanka - run by me 02:41:44 the one that runs regularly :) 02:42:34 #info Biweekly Akihabara with F14 - bckurera 02:42:56 #info Restarting fedora-my meetups in KL - Kagesenshi 02:43:00 just a small gathering .. though i'm planning it to be sprint-like .. which we try to fix stuff which bugging us .. 02:43:12 Cool guys! 02:43:21 Do we need stuff? 02:43:26 #info 2010 Events for Sri Lanka, done - bckurera 02:43:34 shirts for LCA 02:43:51 I think still F14 media not ready right? 02:44:13 last i heard, it'll be ready janurary. 02:44:14 #idea, Fedora 14 media is available 02:44:26 asmartgoat, do you know by who? 02:44:31 harish 02:44:44 dramsey who is the person handling those? 02:45:05 bckurera: harish 02:45:21 ahhh the same one as before :) 02:45:49 +1 azneita 02:45:51 he's not here at the moment but i'm sure he's reading the logs 02:46:05 in any case let's tackle our events first 02:46:13 #topic Linux.Conf.Au - Jan 24-29 02:46:15 +1 azneita, we should have everyone use up the Fedora 13 Live media, too...what does everyone think? 02:46:21 +1 LCA 02:46:37 #link https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/LCA_2011 02:46:45 the event page is here: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/LCA_2011 02:46:54 dramsey +1, need to finish F13 first 02:47:20 #info Asmartgoat, Azneita and Izhar are pending funding. 02:48:11 with regards to F13, I believe we need to dispense them asap 02:48:35 Izhar, too, that's news! I heard, Kaio 02:48:38 do we have figures as to how many? 02:48:42 +1 azneita 02:48:45 :D 02:48:58 #idea, inquire with Harish on remaining Fedora 13 media 02:49:10 KageSenshi, interested in LCA? 02:49:14 we should produce some media for LCA 02:49:22 We are thinking 02:49:25 yep 02:49:33 True asmartgoat... 02:49:54 There could be the remaining Fedora 13 media, too...what do you think? 02:50:03 Just in case.. 02:50:14 in order to make it in time 02:50:16 better finish delivering F13 and then switch to F14 02:50:19 if there are available, let's bring them 02:50:26 true 02:50:27 true 02:50:27 at here theres no remaining .. not sure if at harish 02:50:29 but in the event F14 should be delivered 02:50:50 thank you, KageSenshi 02:51:00 good ideas, azneita and bckurera 02:51:40 we could probably bundle F13 and F14 and just let the user choose 02:51:57 what do you mean by 'bundle' 02:52:00 most ppl go for the latest 02:52:05 the user will choose 14, 02:52:09 bundle as in give em together .. 02:52:18 whats the point? 02:52:24 its just a waste 02:52:29 because the user will only ever use one 02:52:35 azneita it is waste of media 02:52:39 From what I remember, the current Fedora 13 Live has a great selection of openoffice as well as other software in the set. 02:52:44 so we can move the inventory 02:53:03 it's going to be disposed of anyway 02:53:23 Fisrt thing we need real data, whether F13 is over or not from Harish 02:53:25 users will probably be happier with two than just one 02:53:32 If we have Fedora 13 in case, the Fedora 14 is not produced. This will be to our advantage. 02:53:47 it's just happening this time, we're going to avoid it in the future 02:54:01 +1 dramsey 02:54:02 Making users by giving media is not the fedora way azneita 02:54:02 i'm going to email cheryn from red hat to see if they've got media / plans. 02:54:03 Will there be USB key production capability at LCA? 02:54:15 Yes, dramsey 02:54:21 great idea, asmartgoat 02:54:32 Other needs for LCA? 02:54:43 our FAD 02:54:47 Is there a list? 02:54:52 +1 FAd 02:55:00 s/d/D 02:55:06 heres for the FAD: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FAD_@_Brisbane_2011 02:55:18 we need to calaborate with redhat for needs, otherwise we will double up or worse, miss things! 02:55:26 true 02:55:28 true 02:55:29 yep 02:55:45 btw guys, we need to divide responsibilities for LCA 02:55:51 specially for those coming 02:55:52 with the FAmSCo elections, this adds some complexity, too 02:56:00 +1 azneita 02:56:06 good to hear dramsey 02:56:31 azneita, should this be added to the Wiki? 02:56:40 As well as support during the LCA/FAD? 02:56:42 dramsey: yep 02:57:11 the difficult part right now is procuring funding 02:57:29 True! 02:57:36 we have only one guy local - that's kaio 02:57:45 we have red hat too 02:57:47 I think that funding will drive the capabilities... 02:57:52 and everybody is flying in there 02:58:31 well redhat will always be there, but it's different 02:59:26 Unfortunately, with the FAmSCo elections, this adds to the complexity and subtracts from the success/support. Give it your best and follow up on the actions. That is important. What do you all think? 02:59:51 we'll take whatever we get :) 02:59:58 True azneita on Red Hat at LCA. 03:00:05 My best to you all for the APAC FAD 03:00:05 but let's plan ahead anyhow :) 03:00:13 True... 03:00:25 We need a champion! 03:00:30 Continue forward. 03:00:33 #idea planning is the sucess of the event 03:00:35 yep :) 03:00:39 yep 03:00:43 so far, asmartgoat and kaio are in the best positions for LCA 03:00:51 +1 03:01:03 maybe we should request funding as a whole 03:01:08 shall we move to other events 03:01:10 not individualy 03:01:20 ah, alas its too late now 03:01:33 yep, the timing is not ideal 03:01:43 then we can learn things for the next event 03:01:50 elections and holidays coming up 03:01:57 true guys! 03:02:06 moving on? 03:02:13 I am ready! 03:02:18 Others? 03:02:29 some parting shot 03:02:35 these links need some love 03:02:39 #link https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/LCA_2011 03:02:47 #link https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FAD_@_Brisbane_2011 03:02:48 #topic Other future APAC events 03:03:04 anyone? 03:03:08 i saw a FUDCON India/apac 03:03:17 I need to raise a point there 03:03:21 yeah i did too 03:03:32 yes, bckurera 03:03:37 for future events, we need some big event in Sri Lanka 03:03:38 #idea add some tender loving care to the LCA 2011 and FAD @ Brisbane wikis... 03:03:52 at the moment I am planing some stffs 03:04:03 Empower us, bckurera 03:04:20 * azneita waiting eagerly 03:04:20 So i need some people who can help us 03:04:43 resource ppl are more important than funding 03:05:06 in Sri Lanka there was no big fedora thing happen recently 03:05:32 Who is there to help you? 03:05:44 So is there any one other than Sri Lankans here who is like to get into the organizing committee? 03:05:49 is there a wiki page we can check bckurera? 03:06:06 still I am planing so not yet finish any 03:06:17 o 03:06:23 just need to check the feasibility beofre the other stuff starts 03:06:35 is nalley sri lankan? 03:06:50 #link https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/MembershipService/Verification#APAC_.28163.29 03:06:53 Sri Lanka in the sence reside outside 03:07:00 ah 03:07:07 #idea inquire for support to bckurera. 03:07:25 7 people in sri Lanka 03:07:26 bckurera, have you tried to e-mail the fedora ambassadors' mailing list? 03:07:43 yup 7 ppl is already there 03:07:56 bckurera, events are always feasible 03:08:03 i need some from outside and make this a regional event 03:08:04 we just need to sort out the details 03:08:16 any timeline we can work on? 03:08:18 is there any possibility to host any event in Sri Lanka 03:08:36 the short answer is yes 03:08:41 +1 03:08:42 what is it? 03:08:59 then we can have it in SL next time 03:09:07 +1 03:09:25 it is great rather than planing from a sketch for the first time 03:09:31 if you have a timeline for next year, we can discuss it during FAD for 2011 planning 03:09:31 a FUDCon in Sri Lanka? 03:09:40 true 03:09:46 i ll take it 03:09:47 plan for 2011 03:09:52 make 03:09:53 when u need the final proposal? 03:10:01 i meant the time line 03:10:02 s/make/make an #action 03:10:09 yup 03:10:19 FAD is on 30 jan 03:10:23 * asmartgoat is going to buy a fedora cake for FAD 03:10:31 we need something clear by then 03:10:55 hopefully we have dramsey on famsco then :) 03:11:04 ok sure azneita I ll send you the time line and try to get FUDCon to Sri Lanka 03:11:24 asmartgoat: what flavor? 03:11:32 blueberry lol 03:11:36 haha 03:11:47 Hope there will be mnay from APAC 03:12:09 I hop so 03:12:27 welcome arifiauo 03:12:31 oh another nick just appeared 03:12:35 #idea Sri Lanka will(may) host FUDCon 2011 03:12:42 azneita: thanks :) 03:13:05 kaio is probably shopping so he can't join you 03:13:31 welcome arifiauo 03:13:36 everybody arifiauo was mentored by kaio (if i'm not mistaken) 03:13:55 Good Luck to kaio 03:13:58 hi arifiauo :) 03:14:01 the new mentor for APAC :) 03:14:09 .fas arifiauo 03:14:09 azneita: arifiauo 'Arif Tri Waluyo' 03:14:11 Thanks for the welcome everyone :) 03:14:37 Yes, I my mentor is kaio. 03:15:44 :) Good stuff! Let us do our thing! :) 03:15:54 +1, anything else for events? 03:15:59 not here. 03:16:01 yes 03:16:07 arifiauo, which version of Fedora do you use? 03:16:23 Another thing is we need an uniform for events 03:16:28 Fedora 14 03:16:30 yes +1 03:16:34 word uniform seems funny 03:16:38 Excellent arifiauo 03:16:39 Are we at APAC plans now, azneita 03:16:49 #topic APAC plans 03:16:56 ... yes 03:16:58 :) 03:16:58 :) 03:17:10 #idea APAC polo shirts 03:17:35 #link https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/ButtonUp 03:17:45 #link https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/PoloShirt 03:18:20 is there anyplans for something? 03:18:23 custom shirts are expensive in australia about $20 each 03:18:34 Cool guys! 03:18:56 who wants to sperhead this project? 03:19:22 I have a vendor for shirts, so shop around. 03:19:38 do we have a taker? 03:19:41 I think that producers outside of U.S., are more reasonable? 03:19:42 :D 03:19:43 azneita how much are custom shirts around your parts? 03:19:50 asmartgoat, my question 03:19:52 I can get the project if you all like 03:19:56 i haven't checkd yet 03:20:03 please, try bckurera 03:20:04 here in Sri lanka we can go for beow $10 03:20:05 but i'll give input to project leader 03:20:21 I hope that we do some great stuff, guys 03:20:40 hmm wait a sec. i remember reading a blog post about a recent event with shirts that costed ~$5 each 03:20:46 Let us do some compare shopping and pricing...choices allows management for decision. 03:20:59 +1 03:20:59 Wow asmartgoat, that is very reasonable. 03:21:01 +1 03:21:27 Shirts price around $7 in Indonesia 03:21:27 polo shirts OR polo tshirts? 03:21:34 +1 03:22:09 both looks professional Tshirts are easy in events anyway 03:22:12 Excellent! 03:22:17 here would be around 7-9usd depend on quality 03:22:50 Guys, this is great conversation. Do you think a photo/image would help in our purchase? Ideas... 03:22:59 Research that is. 03:23:06 http://pierros.papadeas.gr/?p=177 03:23:19 scroll down 03:23:21 to shirts 03:23:34 For example, dramsey gets Fedora Ambassador Polo Shirt for $25...not good for APAC... 03:23:40 excellent asmartgoat 03:24:19 looks like tuan can get them for ~$3 US 03:24:22 * azneita wonders why asmartgoat is so fast with links :) 03:24:27 haha 03:24:37 * asmartgoat is a links ninja! 03:24:56 which makes dramsey a samurai 03:25:17 $3 price is ok 03:25:17 hahaha 03:25:21 asmartgoat: that's for a t-shirt 03:25:31 $3 should be a go for price and image is known. 03:25:32 collar-less 03:25:37 dramsey is more of a warlord :P 03:25:46 #idea Inquire tuanta 'tuan' on where the goodies are.... 03:25:52 hahaha 03:25:56 warlord :) 03:26:15 maybe some slightly more expensive shirts from same place? 03:26:28 bckurera: still up to the task as shirt project leader 03:26:42 we'll support you with inputs 03:26:58 should we prepare a plan? 03:27:05 we just need you to put up a wiki page or something 03:27:18 but you have to "own" the project 03:27:33 ok i ll do it azneita 03:27:35 and see to it that it happens, is that ok? 03:27:39 Sounds like research guys, this is great! 03:27:39 great! 03:27:45 +1+1+1 03:27:49 3? 03:27:55 muhahaha 03:28:00 is that your shirt size? 03:28:07 hahaha 03:28:09 :) 03:28:14 >.< 03:28:35 We ll need some designns first 03:28:47 in any case, we'll all support bckurera with the project by providing input 03:28:48 NA has some t-shirt designs 03:28:50 There is the Fedora Logo 03:28:51 I think it is good for going to Poplo Tshirts 03:28:58 You may not want to reinvent the wheel 03:28:59 #idea inquire with art-team about APAC fedora shirts 03:29:00 Empower lcafiero, it is good right? 03:29:18 We are doing great guys, let us move forward! Good conversation. 03:29:20 can we have something that we'd be proud to wear out to the shops, less of a uniform 03:29:22 I ll start a wiki and post all soon to the Mlist 03:29:33 great 03:29:41 you know what i mean, like "i (8) my desktop 03:29:49 (8) = fedora symbol 03:30:03 asmartgoat: anything for apack box? 03:30:03 APAC Ambassadors 03:30:09 it should be there right 03:30:09 :) 03:30:14 can i change topic 03:30:22 go ahead 03:30:31 #topic APACK Box - APAC meeting 03:30:32 ok then Tshirt project confirmed 03:30:49 thanks bckurera 03:30:55 alright 03:31:08 is this the tight topic? 03:31:08 i have heard nothing from art team and 03:31:23 i've heard nothing from laptop.org 03:31:48 i've sent them two emails with no responce... i'm not exactly sure what to do 03:31:56 What was issue at art team, asmartgoat? 03:32:00 I think/remember that the Fedora Logo has it's "We must do this..." information... 03:32:19 for the four F's poster, but thats not the problem 03:32:30 its laptop.org, they've gone silent lol 03:32:49 i second that 03:32:50 Hmmh. 03:32:52 bckurera, here's a link on the 4 F's Logo Usage - http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Logo/UsageGuidelines 03:33:47 what's our alternative recourse for XOs? 03:33:54 thanks dramsey 03:34:10 a netbook with sugar as default ? :) 03:34:41 is that good enough asmartgoat? 03:35:03 we are having an OLPC display at LCA. so not exactly... :( 03:35:09 i think they have one olpc 03:35:18 and lcafiero i think has one we can borrow 03:35:20 for apack boxes boss 03:36:19 * azneita looks at clock 03:30UTC 03:36:45 Guys, I recollect something from spevack regarding $250 from the Fedora Ambassadors' mailing list... 03:37:13 $250 for what? 03:37:19 I think this is in spevack's thought processing for approvals...let us double check... 03:37:34 azneita, need to see the e-mail again... 03:38:04 On the OLPC -- If you can't get the foundation to give you one, I can give you the one that should go to the Canada event box 03:38:27 It will be easier to get one here than for you to get one there, asmartgoat, in my opinion. 03:38:35 ah, discretion amount? 03:38:53 im having trouble, im going to wait a week for a reply... but then i dont know what to do 03:39:12 lcafiero, we're actually thinking of getting six XOs 03:39:36 Thank you, lcafiero 03:39:54 cool 03:40:11 #idea continue efforts for OLPC with lcafiero in order to provide OLPC for LCA 03:40:15 What do you guys think? 03:40:39 i think lcafiero's offer is great, we just have five more units to go :) 03:41:07 the XO I am sending is for the event box, but use it as you see fit. 03:41:20 have you made contact with OLPC phillipines 03:41:26 azneita? 03:41:27