03:00:24 #startmeeting APAC meeting 2010-11-28 03:00:24 Meeting started Sun Nov 28 03:00:24 2010 UTC. The chair is bckurera. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 03:00:24 Useful Commands: #action #agreed #halp #info #idea #link #topic. 03:00:41 Have pinged lcafiero and gbraad to join just in case 03:00:45 .fas dramsey 03:00:45 dramsey: dramsey 'David Ramsey' 03:00:51 .fas azneita 03:00:51 azneita: azneita 'Heherson Pagcaliwagan' 03:00:53 .fas artgo 03:00:54 .fas izhar 03:00:54 .fas tuanta 03:00:54 asmartgoat: asmartgoat 'Luke Martinez' 03:00:56 #chair asmartgoat dramsey azneita 03:00:56 Current chairs: asmartgoat azneita bckurera dramsey 03:00:59 KageSenshi: izhar 'Mohd Izhar Firdaus Ismail' 03:01:02 .fas ke4qqq 03:01:03 .fas bckurera 03:01:03 tuanta: tuanta 'Truong Anh Tuan' 03:01:07 ke4qqq: ke4qqq 'David Nalley' 03:01:11 bckurera: bckurera 'Buddhika Kurera' 03:01:19 .fas sgordon 03:01:20 sgordon: sgordon 'Stephen Gordon' 03:01:21 woo, a lot of men here today :) 03:01:26 Hi good morning to all of you we are here for the APAC meetings 03:01:31 yeah XD 03:01:39 the biggest meeting ever, for me 03:01:45 good morning 03:02:01 next topic? 03:02:04 * azneita couldn't agree more tuan 03:02:07 so lets move to the next topic 03:02:12 #topic News from FAmSCo 03:02:22 Is there any news? 03:02:28 ke4qqq, please? 03:02:42 ke4qqq has the floor 03:02:47 cheryn your just in time :) 03:03:01 hello asmartgoat :) 03:03:08 hi everybody 03:03:28 ke4qqq please? 03:03:37 I have no news.... 03:03:48 hmmm then can we proceed? 03:03:51 unless you are looking for something specifically 03:03:54 * ke4qqq is just here to watch 03:04:08 #topic Ambassador wear - Tshirts 03:05:02 As you all aware I designed a TShirt for APAC Am. 03:05:44 #link https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Bckurera/APAC-shirts 03:05:45 has everybody lodged their sizes? 03:05:46 yes, I booked some for me 03:06:05 So we need to finalize this and proceed today 03:06:25 I have got around 40 orders all over the world (I should say) 03:06:55 cheryn / sgordon, will you need some for LCA? 03:07:01 According to the ideas of Am. the APAC term has removed from the TShirts and it suits for all Am. 03:07:30 The minimum amount is 50 for proceed with a manugacturer 03:07:51 The right price then can be announced. 03:08:08 i'll add two more, for engels and magie they can't join us today 03:08:24 cant we get funding from FAmSCo for this? 03:08:28 i personally would be happy to chip for one 03:08:41 However I ll discuss with them(manugacturer) in the next week 03:08:45 bckurera: if you're that close, just assume famsco will make up whatevers left to get to 50 - and then you'll have spares for others later 03:09:17 that means we can get some funds right? 03:09:21 right! 03:09:35 cool 03:09:43 ok then I ll contact ke4qqq for further settlements 03:09:47 is it ok? 03:09:55 * azneita grins 03:10:18 still all can send me sugessions - I m nt finalize anything 03:10:33 Cool guys, 03:10:41 Good idea for T-Shirts for the people. 03:10:44 the logo guide lines are safely followed and no more troubles 03:11:06 Good bckurera, adhere to the standards and we are legit 03:11:08 btw, asmartgoat: can you do the minute-taking - #action #idea 03:11:31 yes 03:11:37 thanks 03:12:06 #idea famsco to make up what numbers are left for t-shirts to get to fifty. 03:12:20 +1 03:12:24 alright, bckureras gone, we'll continue and comeback 03:12:25 +1 03:12:33 #topic Report current Status of upcoming events 03:12:47 Any news 03:12:50 bckurera is on way... 03:13:06 we'll come back to tshirts 03:13:27 sorry got disconnected 03:13:37 shall we move now 03:13:52 oh 03:13:55 already moved :) 03:13:59 we can go back if you want 03:13:59 thanks 03:14:11 no I am ok with it :) 03:14:15 :) 03:14:40 we have number of events to go right 03:14:43 moving on, my visa application request for LCA has just been approved by ke4qqq 03:15:03 i'll apply on tuesday and take it from there 03:15:06 and i have funding to travel to LCA 03:15:22 everything else on my end is pending per max's perusal 03:15:51 Kagesenshi, how about yours? 03:16:14 not familiar with the process XD .. bit lost here 03:16:34 (most local stuff i did are usually self funded) 03:16:42 have you got a ticket in famsco trac? 03:17:02 ok not yet 03:17:26 the most pressing would be visa, please lodge one asap 03:17:36 #info Azneita is approved to apply for visa 03:17:49 #info asmartgoat has budget for travels and stay 03:18:02 KageSenshi: put one in famsco trac, but if it's sub-500 - just proceed, and keep your receipts 03:18:17 asmartgoat: are you sponsored for traveling? 03:18:31 ok 03:18:33 yes 03:18:40 great :) 03:18:41 nice to hear that 03:18:53 from where, to where? 03:19:10 melbourne to brisbane, right? 03:19:33 no 03:19:36 adelaide to brisbane 03:19:41 i'll be in adelaide at the time 03:20:00 #link https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/LCA_2011 03:20:14 #link https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FAD_@_Brisbane_2011 03:20:29 shall we move on 03:20:35 i have alot to talk about 03:21:10 for those not up to speed, please follow the links for the event pages 03:21:25 moving on... 03:21:41 #topic Linux.conf.au - 24th to 29th January - Fedora stall - Budget - Confs 03:21:55 Alright 03:22:17 we have 5 attendees + red hat personell (2 at the moment) 03:23:02 dgilmore and jsmith will be at LCA but will not be able to stay for Open Day 03:23:10 i'd just amend that and say we have at least 6 volunteers from red hat at the moment 03:23:11 #action if anyone here is attending please place yourself on the list 03:23:14 #link http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/LCA_2011 03:23:23 gday all 03:23:54 glad you can join us dgilmore 03:24:00 could you please ask if they dont mind to place their names on the the list on link aboce 03:24:06 above* 03:24:07 azneita: :) np 03:24:19 asmartgoat: my name is on the page already 03:24:28 we we're just discussing LCA 2011 03:24:31 I see :) 03:24:32 cool :) 03:24:52 ok created the ticket 03:25:02 Openday 03:25:04 Fantastic 03:25:06 yeah 03:25:21 do we have needs for openday? 03:25:27 Swag, CD's Etc 03:25:40 kaio, you going right? 03:25:42 I see so many activities in LCA and FAD, great! 03:25:47 what is going to distribute in the event? 03:25:50 dramsey: ya 03:25:52 F13 or F14 03:26:00 should be F14 only 03:26:01 * dgilmore thinks its awesome to see things happening in .au 03:26:04 i hope we can distribute f14 03:26:11 it is nice 03:26:15 +1 03:26:16 good kaio. 03:26:27 asmartgoat, any word on media from Harish? 03:26:27 did anyone check for the remaining F13 media with harish 03:26:33 #info harish will be producing a big batch of F14 soon, we can hook that up for the event 03:26:36 bckurera, my thought, too 03:26:39 we should only distribute f14 03:26:43 are you guys / girls organizing CD's for LCA? (sgordon / cheryn ) 03:26:48 I got 20 pcs F12 here. :P 03:26:50 dramsey its nice :) 03:27:08 dramsey, harish said by feb. so thats not good :( 03:27:08 do we have a number? 03:27:10 not that i'm aware of, i think we are pursuing the usb media creation station though 03:27:32 * dgilmore can see if there is any media in the US i can get my hands on 03:27:37 asmartgoat, need a backup plan...how about any unused media 03:27:45 thanks dgilmore 03:27:47 yes, that would be great dgilmore. 03:27:50 thanks 03:28:00 i brought 750 cd/dvd's to FUDCon LATAM last year 03:28:07 azneita, do you have media? 03:28:22 nothing yet on me 03:28:31 alright. 03:28:43 Moving on? 03:28:47 yes 03:28:50 ok 03:28:51 yes 03:28:54 asmartgoat what about the media then? 03:28:55 #topic FAD @ brisbane 2011 03:29:12 bckurera we'll have to organize 03:29:17 oh. 03:29:21 #info dgilmore will try to get his hands on media for LCA 2011 03:29:29 yeah, but we need more :) 03:29:46 * dgilmore sadly wont be at the FAD 03:29:51 kaio, is it possible for you to get funding to make media localy? 03:30:18 good question 03:30:25 media should be made locally 03:30:50 true 03:30:52 I paid $10 as custom feed for F13 03:30:58 fee* 03:30:59 i believe it's possible to get funding, we just have to have numbers 03:31:01 in Vietnam, our team can burn >1,000 dics a day 03:31:28 Sorry I'm late. 03:31:31 * azneita waves to lcafiero 03:31:36 hi lcafiero :) 03:31:37 I need to raise a point here, should ve print on dics and make them expensive then? 03:31:48 hi lcafiero 03:31:53 we should look profession 03:31:53 al 03:32:01 + 03:32:04 +1 03:32:06 professional looking ones please 03:32:07 +1 03:32:09 or just distribute them with no printing on it 03:32:13 it's LCA :) 03:32:25 we want our best foot forward 03:32:29 asmartgoat: making media here is "very" not econimic 03:33:04 why? 03:33:06 which presents us an opportunity 03:33:13 I can burn, but there will be no printing on the disc 03:33:28 azneita: I could check out, but you know the living standard in AU 03:33:30 get you funding for a CD printer? 03:33:30 in Sri Lanka for 1000 CDs it will cost $100 (around) what about Aus 03:33:44 true 03:34:06 in AU, a blank CD will be about that price 03:34:18 I think not so, may be more. 03:34:21 if 1000CDs + tax is cheaper than producing in .au , then imo its better to just import 03:34:22 * azneita remembers the duplicator 03:34:23 kaio : bad to hear :( 03:34:32 azneita, how true... 03:34:33 fund a printer for kaio? 03:34:39 I can burn. :) and print on it if I got a canon printer. 03:34:40 At least there is USB ability. 03:34:55 Idea/action... 03:35:06 * kaio is using officeject 5000 MFC bought 6 years ago 03:35:17 #idea Media should be produced locally 03:35:23 bckurera: I agree 03:35:34 kaio, if you go down to officeworks you can normally get a printer that prints cds from $60 - 100 03:35:35 the usb creation booth presents a great alternative to CD/DVDs 03:35:44 it will cost more to bring medias oversea 03:35:48 asmartgoat: if so I could do it 03:35:56 you can do it! 03:35:59 need to check out 03:36:02 tuanta, checked baggage. :) 03:36:11 yes 03:36:11 dramsey: yeah! I could do it! (in hyper state) 03:36:13 tuanta: as a one off i can bring it with me 03:36:14 thanks kaio 03:36:20 5 days does not need 10kg checked baggage 03:36:21 azneita <- are you saying to give USB free?? 03:36:24 15kg 03:36:32 not :) 03:36:35 but if we can get good pricing for replication locally then that would be good 03:36:42 USB free, spare me one. :) 03:36:48 Always have a backup plan, just in case... 03:37:00 live CD is better 03:37:10 tuanta +1 03:37:10 I see if I can get an asian shop, they usually do cheaper 03:37:17 tuanta: ++ 03:37:18 people can not erase it :) 03:37:29 +1 03:37:32 +1 03:37:34 #action kaio will check for local production of LCA media 03:37:37 tuanta <- rather than its is cheaper 03:37:46 tuanta: yeah, I think if usb there will be ppl re-line many times 03:37:46 +1 03:38:03 kaio <- how about the media with LCA logo on it :) 03:38:04 Good ideas guys 03:38:39 #idea have LCA 2011 art from design team 03:39:06 Fedora 14 - LCA2011 special limited edition. 03:39:06 something fedora-related would be nice 03:39:21 people collect that :P 03:39:29 nice 03:39:40 w/ a number and cert signed by dramsey 03:39:47 how about LCA travelling to me? 03:39:56 srry dc. 03:40:03 kaio <- budget? 03:40:13 bckurera: my budget? 03:40:16 Would be good to have universal media, so in case not used... 03:40:32 There are great Fedora 14 cover designs 03:40:38 Your food for thought 03:40:43 kaio <- air fee and so on me from SL 03:41:08 asmartgoat, other needs for the FAD Day? 03:41:12 bckurera: I am not FAMSCO yet 03:41:16 ah 03:41:38 we are going to have brunch before we arrive at LCA 03:41:40 not 03:41:41 lca 03:41:43 edge 03:42:05 we'll eat somewhere, australian :P. 03:42:08 kaio any ideas 03:42:14 which reminds me, maybe it should be better to consolidate our budget requests into a single ticket for easier tracking 03:42:17 asmartgoat: aust style? 03:42:29 yeah, you know, echidna 03:42:32 and kangaroo 03:42:38 asmartgoat: if EDGE, you can have breakfast in southbank I guess 03:42:45 alright 03:42:46 :P 03:42:59 #idea breakfast at southbank 03:43:03 its all about Brisbane then 03:43:12 Ok, 03:43:22 i like to inquire about my participation who is the contact person? 03:43:23 now 03:43:35 participation in the FAD? 03:43:44 what you guys think ^ 03:44:26 azneita, +1 03:44:31 +1 03:44:32 bckurera, everyone's encouraged to participate 03:44:41 alright, 03:44:46 #topic FAD talks 03:44:52 CMB to ADL, right bckurera? 03:45:05 Who wants to have talks on the day 03:45:07 can we get the rough cost 03:45:12 yes dramsey 03:45:19 #info proposed schedule is here -> http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FAD_@_Brisbane_2011 03:45:45 in Brisbane for breakfast, you can choose Southbank (River view, 15 mins walk to EDGE), City (most people walks by, 15 mins walk to EDGE), Riverside (CBD and bridge view, 25 mins walk to EDGE). 03:46:09 yes 03:46:16 so who wants to talk at FAD? 03:46:22 \o/ 03:46:28 yes? 03:46:37 i think i'll have one lightning talk 03:46:45 sorry, all friends. I have to go now 03:46:52 take care Tuan 03:46:53 tuanta: take care cya :) 03:46:55 good to see you 03:46:56 alright tuan, cya 03:46:57 glad you can join us tuan 03:46:57 see you tuanta :) 03:47:02 then will read the meeting log 03:47:04 thanks, bye 03:47:26 KageSenshi, i'll give you first lightning talk (10 minutes) 03:47:32 what sort of talks are you looking for? any theme in particular? 03:47:33 ok :) 03:47:34 1230: apac meeting - is this the 2011 planning? 03:47:35 no 03:47:39 just has to be related 03:47:46 to fedora, linux etc 03:47:54 it has to be fedora-related, FAD 03:47:55 yes 03:47:56 :) 03:48:00 Yes, azneita 03:48:28 #action will be conferencing for APAC meeting for dramsey + others :) 03:48:31 azneita, but not strictly fedora related right? (such as, stuff which exist in fedora repos) 03:48:31 For my talks, ibus as well as features like systemd and kernel are good stuff... 03:48:49 yeah, kagesenshi 03:49:00 ok 03:49:05 That is a good question, Cheryn 03:49:19 we all linux based :) 03:49:28 #action all people wanting to talk add a talk to the correct spot in the times http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FAD_@_Brisbane_2011 03:49:33 dramsey: you should get RH people come to FAD, there are ibus people in Brisbane. 03:49:49 yes red hat people are welcome 03:49:52 kaio, how true...my thought, too 03:50:06 and there are desktop dev also 03:50:14 Excellent ideas!] 03:50:19 alright 03:50:36 kaio, i've already talked to you about fedora cake, but i need to make a design :) 03:50:44 for L10N I could try to ask my friend who do translations in Chinese 03:50:58 chester? 03:51:02 I like cakes too :) 03:51:03 Should the ibus/desktop dev be an action/idea? 03:51:05 sgordon: exactly 03:51:08 :) 03:51:36 sgordon, if you are coming to the FAD please add yourself :) 03:51:42 FAD is shaping up to be fun hehe 03:51:48 yes :) 03:51:58 azneita: it will be fun for Brisbane FAD 03:52:17 i have bad news 03:52:20 Additionally, I have had inquiries relevant to the fedora cloud concepts, too. Food for thought. 03:52:21 i suggest we place the meeting best practice before the apac meeting :) 03:52:25 ! 03:52:34 what is up asmartgoat? 03:52:49 go on asmartgoat 03:52:50 We will not be able to do a live feed to FUDCon tempe due to the time zones :( 03:53:11 i could talk about that dramsey 03:53:13 we will not be able to view the State of fedora speech. 03:53:23 Excellent sgordon! 03:53:25 i am presenting at the cloud mini-conf on deltacloud related stuff 03:53:31 but most of my testing has been using fedora 03:53:41 Fantastic! 03:53:47 +1 03:54:07 +1 03:54:11 alright 03:54:21 asmartgoat, I think that Pierros has been interested to try from his place in Europe...food for thought, too 03:54:26 we can record 03:54:27 # sgordon will have fedora cloud talk 03:54:32 i have one more topic before Bckurera can take over :) 03:54:38 #info sgordon will have fedora cloud talk 03:54:45 i'll keep that in mind dramsey 03:54:50 i m ok asmartgoat 03:55:02 People with talks please go to the page and add them :) 03:55:05 #action kaio will check on chester for ibus/desktop talk 03:55:09 asmartgoat, tuanta and his Pierros, are game for such 03:55:09 alright next topic? 03:55:12 i will probably keep it to discussing what the cloud SIG Have in f14 and what they are planning for f15 and beyond 03:55:19 #topic Booking of Fad 03:55:27 beat me to it! 03:55:28 :P 03:55:31 alright 03:55:34 sgordon, that is most excellent! 03:55:35 Now 03:55:36 azneita: no, chester is L10N talk, ibus/desktop is another people 03:55:44 is everyone ok with the times for the FAD 03:56:03 #action kaio will check on chester for L10N talk 03:56:04 12pm - 4pm 03:56:12 excluding the lunch 03:56:16 better be in UTC asmartgoat 03:56:23 #idea Tuan to touch base with Pei 03:56:29 alright, i'll get them in utc soon.. 03:56:39 UTC+10 03:56:50 s/Pei/Pierros about that international connection from Europe 03:57:18 0200 - 0600 in UTC 03:57:32 #info kaio suggested we record the FAD 03:57:38 thanks kaio 03:57:46