04:20:59 #startmeeting 04:20:59 Meeting started Sun Dec 19 04:20:59 2010 UTC. The chair is asmartgoat. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 04:20:59 Useful Commands: #action #agreed #halp #info #idea #link #topic. 04:21:17 whats the name :) 04:21:24 apac or somethign 04:21:26 .fas kaio 04:21:26 kaio: kaio 'Caius Chance' 04:21:31 second... 04:21:37 ,fas dramsey 04:21:38 #topic Hello 04:21:42 #undo 04:21:42 Removing item from minutes: 04:21:53 dramsey, i a jst reading the log :S 04:21:56 #chair dramsey, kaio 04:21:56 Current chairs: asmartgoat dramsey kaio 04:21:56 am* 04:22:09 .fas Angel 04:22:10 Angel: crackbrained 'Emil Angelov' - operabaritone 'Michael Hoffman' - psyangelic 'Tsigkos Ioannis' - vestional 'vestional.abilistion' - angelven 'Angel Ascanio' - fciangel 'mohammed hashem el-salous' - nyza21 'Christine Ugalde' - ssquma (12 more messages) 04:22:12 Excellent Angel 04:22:48 * kaio think zodbot should query the exact fas name 04:23:04 #meetingname apac-timeshift 04:23:04 The meeting name has been set to 'apac-timeshift' 04:23:14 .fas artgo 04:23:14 asmartgoat: asmartgoat 'Luke Martinez' 04:23:26 ah, this is a timeshift meeting :) 04:23:46 Sort of a ad-hoc meeting so bear with me. :D 04:24:07 hi lcafiero 04:24:34 we are having a timeshift meeting 04:24:40 #topic Ambassadors Pinging 04:24:57 #info TimeShift meeting created due to lack of notice of change 04:25:06 #info This is more of a relaxed meeting 04:25:47 alright, moving on 04:25:59 #topic Report current Status of upcoming events 04:26:07 #link https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FedoraEvents#FY11_Q4_.28Dec._2010_-_Feb._2011.29_3 04:26:30 tuan, we are having a second meeting because of the lack of notice given :) 04:27:00 hi Tuan! 04:27:05 Yup, just finished my biweekly Akibahara 'Akiba' today. :) 04:27:14 last for 2010 04:27:15 How did it go dramsey? 04:27:33 Very nice, getting cold outside, mostly guys and doing Fedora 14 04:27:38 #chair tuanta 04:27:38 Current chairs: asmartgoat dramsey kaio tuanta 04:28:20 dramsey☺ admire your life in tokyo 04:28:36 best to you all for LCA and FAD 04:28:37 :) 04:28:51 We already had a successful release party in Bangladesh https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FedoraEvents/ReleaseParty/F14/2010_BLUA_Grand_Release_Party 04:28:53 dramsey☺ :) 04:29:05 Cool Angel! 04:29:20 my event report http://angel.linux.org.bd/2010/12/2010-blua-grand-release-party/ 04:29:41 #chair Angel 04:29:41 Current chairs: Angel asmartgoat dramsey kaio tuanta 04:29:47 #link http://angel.linux.org.bd/2010/12/2010-blua-grand-release-party/ 04:30:17 #info Successful release party in Bangladesh by Angel 04:30:23 #link https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FedoraEvents/ReleaseParty/F14/2010_BLUA_Grand_Release_Party 04:30:30 (just documenting :) ) 04:30:46 thanx asmartgoat :) 04:30:56 Helps Famsco know, because they check the minutes, not always the logs :) 04:31:10 alright, anything else? 04:31:18 I'm good to go 04:31:20 I'll bring up brisbane a little later 04:31:37 by the way, the structure of this meeting, is based on yesterdays :) 04:31:46 oh, another FAmAPAC meeting? 04:31:52 yes tuan:) 04:31:59 great 04:32:01 anything you'd like to bring up? 04:32:05 you have chair 04:32:16 no idea in my mind now 04:32:30 alright, looks like brisbane is next 04:32:32 just observer then I may have some ideas 04:32:47 #topic FAD Brisbane & LCA 2011 = Fedora Events 04:33:03 I think Brisbane is great event 04:33:04 #link https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/LCA_2011 04:33:11 #link https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FAD_@_Brisbane_2011 04:33:17 I will join into FAD via IRC 04:33:27 Excellent Tuan! 04:33:28 #info 24th Jan - 29th Jan | FAD is on 30th of Jan 04:33:43 love meeting all of you there 04:34:02 Ok, i have open call for any talks for FAD brisbane 04:34:28 Sort of how the EMEA talks are being discussed? 04:34:53 yes, dramsey 04:35:00 An email has been sent out to the list 04:35:03 Cool 04:35:16 Perfect 04:35:17 im giving a talk on Fedora Games 04:35:22 :) 04:35:26 Nice! 04:35:34 Excellent, should this be an action/idea to FAD attendees? 04:35:40 yes 04:35:59 #action anyone, talk to asmartgoat about FAD talks 04:36:00 I remember Pierros was interested in doing an IRC/Fedora Talk from abroad to help you all at the FAD, that may be very good 04:36:09 yes 04:36:15 Sort of like how Tuan is doing from Vietnam 04:36:29 I'll accept those types of talks to, they demonstrate how fedora is a global community 04:36:54 #info talks can be from abroad to demonstrate that fedora is a global community. 04:37:09 Perfect! 04:37:10 So, yes. If you want to hold a talk: contact me 04:37:14 +1 04:37:17 +1 04:37:21 Thanks 04:37:55 #topic Classrooms for APAC 04:38:10 Dramsey, i believe you suggested this, and we didnt cover it properly last time 04:38:46 Actually, this was suggested by FranciscoD 'Ankur' my thought was a follow-up to the North American Ambassadors Red Hat Training 04:38:56 I think Ankur's idea is worthy 04:39:13 im not sure what he means by this? 04:39:29 It's so good to have a classroom to share ideas, experiences, etc. among Fedora Ambassadors world wide 04:39:34 May be the #fedora-classroom idea on extension. 04:39:44 +1 Tuan 04:39:45 ah ok 04:39:56 I have an idea, 04:40:02 a channel dedicated to APAC 04:40:06 #fedora-APAC 04:40:19 or #fedora-AsiaPacific 04:40:21 or something similar 04:40:27 Has potential 04:40:30 I'd go with #fedora-APAC 04:40:35 same :) 04:40:37 easier to remember and write 04:40:38 +1 asmartgoat and lcafiero 04:40:45 +1 04:40:50 #fedora-classroom should be the best 04:41:00 #topic Fedora APAC dedicated channel 04:41:07 I'd love to have a worldwide sharing space 04:41:10 im talking beyond this though 04:41:35 i mean, we could just ping #fedora-apac for our meetings. 04:41:42 collaborate easier there 04:42:35 Sounds interesting 04:42:37 i mean, a dedicated channel would allow us to organize events with others who are not ambassadors, but living in APAC 04:43:02 by no means #fedora-ambassadors-apac but just people in APAC using Fedora 04:43:16 #idea Have a channel dedicated to Fedora APAC 04:43:21 +1 04:43:23 there used to be a #fedora-au room i think it was 04:43:32 hi dgilmore 04:43:32 but thats too restrictive 04:43:35 hi :) 04:43:55 you may need to assign a channel operator(s) when you request the channel. 04:43:56 hi 04:44:04 having some region/language specific rooms should be encouraged 04:44:05 I'm still finding out what's required for #fedora-famsco 04:44:26 i'll talk with #fedora OP's about it and #freenode staff 04:44:31 #action asmartgoat to follow up this 04:44:33 A most worthy idea and concept to develop 04:44:34 * dgilmore sits in #fedora-latam and #fedora-br 04:44:39 #undo 04:44:39 Removing item from minutes: 04:44:53 #action Asmartgoat, To follow up this with Fedora OP's and #freenode staff 04:45:06 asmartgoat: speak with spot 04:45:12 talk to spot 04:45:17 ok 04:45:19 dgilmore types faster than me 04:45:22 #undo 04:45:22 Removing item from minutes: 04:45:29 #action asmartgoat to speak with spot :) 04:45:32 haha 04:45:37 :) 04:45:38 to many undo's 04:45:46 i should wait 04:46:10 what timezone is spot in? 04:46:19 (shouldnt wake spot up :) ) 04:46:38 User: spot, Name: Tom Callaway, email: tcallawa@redhat.com, Creation: 2005-04-13, IRC Nick: spot, Timezone: US/Eastern, Locale: en, Extension: 5100061, GPG key ID: 93054260, Status: active 04:46:49 thanks 04:46:57 asmartgoat: us est 04:47:01 from "/msg zodbot .fasinfo spot" 04:47:08 yep :) 04:47:15 #info for asmartgoat: US EST 04:47:17 cool 04:47:37 midnight now there, i'll catch him tommorow (my) morning :) 04:48:35 alright, this is great. I'll get the channel registered after talking to spot 04:48:53 moving on: 04:49:04 #topic Open Floor 04:49:37 Any thoughts before we close up? 04:50:10 no more :) 04:50:11 Was wondering how the North American's Red Hat training concept was developing? lcafiero any inputs to assist? 04:50:29 I want to say something, but I am not sure, if this is the right place 04:50:45 /msg Angel try here, its not recored 04:50:46 Also, would like to consider a January 15th/16th meeting to make sure all the Brisbane LCA/FAD needs/issues are addressed. 04:51:29 yes dramsey +1 04:51:37 +1 04:52:38 I saw the Fedora Ambassadors in North America are considering helping out Ambassadors with Red Hat Training, I think that is very worthy. 04:53:08 May be kaio could bring up at the FAmSCo, what do you think? 04:53:20 yes 04:53:29 That's all from me. 04:53:35 i would love if i could get certified at my age :) 04:53:48 Yes, RHCSA! 04:54:04 You would probably be on the Red Hat Training Magazine cover! 04:54:06 +1 04:54:12 s/probably/would be 04:54:35 That's it from me. 04:55:03 Has Angel's needs been addressed? 04:55:41 So, i'll email spot and ask him about a freenode channel for APAC 04:55:48 +1 asmartgoat 04:55:51 1 04:56:00 s/1/+1 04:56:01 Angel.. has the floor for a minute please 04:56:09 Angel: go ahead 04:56:28 ty asmartgoat, I am an Ambassador since 2008, then this year about 6 months ago, I left the project 04:57:00 I had to leave becoz, I was frustrated 04:57:26 I have write everything about this on my blog http://angel.linux.org.bd/2010/06/fedora-bangladesh-and-my-frustration/ 04:58:23 #info Angel left fedora project 6m ago, because lack of support for fedora bangladesh L10N & I18N 04:58:35 can i continue angel 04:58:37 asmartgoat, not only that 04:58:43 ok, 04:59:59 I ddnt get any help from the old ambassadors of bangladesh 05:00:22 n more correctly they actually humiliated me in some case 05:00:29 I can get helps from others, not only Bangladesh ones 05:01:09 tuanta, yes, others helped me a lot, but when things run on locally u need local help 05:01:36 I am a only one Fedora Ambassador in Vietnam and I got a lot of helps from local LUGs 05:01:39 +1 Tuan 05:01:57 Fedora should get helps from local LUGs 05:02:14 Maybe a l10n FAD 05:02:34 Well said, asmartgoat 05:02:37 I think, at least at this time, no need to have a separated Fedora community here 05:02:47 we should be in local LUGs 05:02:53 tuanta, from local lug, I also get help too, but in the project from local people who r ambassadors should be united 05:03:08 True Angel 05:03:23 +1 Angel 05:03:36 funding for a FAD; for pizza, computer lab and coke. and have a day of translation or Fedora bd related things 05:03:58 Sounds like a very worthy idea / action 05:04:37 I will request everyone to read my that post for once, when u get some times, i think, u will understand why I was frustrated 05:05:40 i got negative respond from all the bangladeshi ambassadors here in fedora project, when I tried to do something better 05:07:18 please go toward yourself 05:07:32 you should be the leader in Bangladesh ams 05:07:41 +1 Tuan 05:07:50 previously same things happened with someone who was in ambassador of bangladesh before 05:07:50 I try myself, alone 05:07:53 n he left 05:08:04 thanks tuanta and asmartgoat 05:08:05 but I am still positive all time 05:08:31 this is not about the leadership* 05:08:37 this is about the community 05:08:49 yes, we need to engage the community in your area 05:09:00 Angel, are you interested in holding a Fedora Activities Day for translations? 05:09:35 asmartgoat, that would be great really 05:09:36 but each community should have a leader who lead all to go on the right way 05:09:49 +1 asmartgoat 05:10:03 tuanta, +1 05:10:28 Hmm... red hat service bd, so it would benefit them to send someone for translations. 05:10:52 or at least have someone collaborate online with Angel??? no? 05:11:45 asmartgoat, honestly its very hard to work in bd, so I think, collaborating online would be better as a start 05:12:05 Hmm.. kaio, can you bring this up with Famsco 05:12:20 too much politics in bd, everywhere :S 05:12:29 maybe famsco can talk to redhat about helping angel. 05:12:44 we know, we just have to work our way through politics. :) see the sun! 05:12:53 alright, are we finished up here? 05:12:56 asmartgoat, this will be really nice 05:13:03 Understood Angel, that may be best start. 05:13:13 Everyone, well done! 05:13:30 Thanks for all attending 05:13:37 I am finished, have a great weekend. 05:13:39 if we have nothing else we shall clos 05:13:42 close* 05:13:45 +1 05:13:46 +1 05:13:57 Thankyou to all for attending 05:13:59 10 05:14:01 9 05:14:03 8 05:14:05 7 05:14:07 6 05:14:08 5 05:14:10 4 05:14:10 Thank you for chairing asmartgoat til 2011 05:14:13 3 05:14:16 2 05:14:17 :) 05:14:19 1.5 05:14:22 1.25 05:14:24 1 05:14:24 bye 05:14:26 0.5 05:14:28 bye 05:14:30 0.25 05:14:35 good luck to everyone to 2011 05:14:41 have a happy christmas for all 05:14:45 :) 05:14:46 0 05:14:51 #endmeeting