02:00:48 #startmeeting 1-18-11 FAmNA Meeting 02:00:48 Meeting started Wed Jan 19 02:00:48 2011 UTC. The chair is lcafiero. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 02:00:48 Useful Commands: #action #agreed #halp #info #idea #link #topic. 02:00:54 could dgilmore maybe drive there? pcalarco? 02:00:55 Okay, okay, rbergeron 02:01:04 * rbergeron hugs lcafiero 02:01:06 I KID 02:01:16 Heh 02:01:29 rbergeron: I was going to say 'START THE GAME ALREADY' like AOE :) 02:01:36 #link https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Meeting:Ambassadors_2011-01-18#Agenda 02:01:44 That's the agenda 02:02:02 (at least I didn't say - "okay, let's light this candle") 02:02:22 first on the agenda 02:02:28 #topic Announcements 02:02:36 let 'er rip, folks. 02:02:48 freemedia party! 02:03:07 * inode0 is burning his second DVD of the meeting now 02:03:21 there are around a dozen waiting, please help me 02:03:27 link? 02:04:41 http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Distribution/FreeMedia 02:04:54 https://fedorahosted.org/freemedia/ 02:05:05 Ah, good. Thanks, inode0 -- anyone want to help out there, it's a party. 02:05:43 Also, I am going to take off the SCALE item from the budget section of the agenda since vwbusguy and I are still hashing it out -- we'll be back. 02:05:54 ! 02:06:02 shoot, sthistle 02:06:13 How can I help with the party? Donate? :-) 02:06:32 inode0, want to field that? 02:06:35 I could help some, but I am unable to afford the media.. 02:06:57 basically we get around 10-15 requests from people in NA each month for media 02:07:11 volunteers like us burn and mail it to them to help them out 02:07:46 And the requests are in one of the links above, true? 02:07:47 just a few folks kicking in to help one or two other people each month makes the individual burden very small on each volunteer 02:08:11 ok. So just have the ISOs available, burn to CD/DVD when requested and mail it? 02:08:22 this is a very low barrier way to make a contribution to help the fedora community grow 02:08:25 basicly yep 02:08:37 Sounds good.. Will sign up 02:09:21 OK then. 02:09:31 * lcafiero calls on himself 02:09:40 Texas Linux Fest call for papers is open 02:10:25 http://www.texaslinuxfest.org/ <--- for more information 02:10:59 Any other announcements? 02:11:14 Going once . . . . 02:11:19 * rbergeron notes that texas linux fest and northeaast linux fest are the same date. 02:11:23 so don't plan for going to both :) 02:11:37 * mock clones himself 02:11:41 unless you have a personal jet or something, that is. :) 02:11:53 Northeast Linux Fest? 02:11:56 let's not break the laws of nature, mock 02:12:02 yes, not northwest, northEAST 02:12:17 http://www.northeastlinuxfest.org/ 02:12:19 rbergeron: nelf :) 02:12:19 * lcafiero hadn't heard of that one. 02:12:29 * herlo likes that name 02:12:31 me either 02:12:31 * inode0 starts burning DVD #3 and tries to guilt someone into helping 02:12:37 OK then, don't go to both. Plenty of geeks to go around, I suppose 02:12:44 * inode0 means get someone to join the PARTY! 02:12:54 * herlo had recently, I think it's the innaugural 02:13:08 anyway - just casually mentioning that :) 02:13:14 OK then, something to put on the list then. 02:13:29 inode0: I can help, but I can't afford the media to burn. 02:13:57 inode0: Would I have to buy the media? 02:13:59 OK then. 02:14:43 Any other announcements? 02:14:49 * sthistle signed up for the mailing list (freemedia). 02:15:04 All righty then, let's move on 02:15:23 #topic Events Fedora Activity Day at SCALE 02:15:33 w00t! 02:15:55 This will be short because vwbusguy and I have still to determine what the FAD should be. 02:16:01 lcafiero: oh, but it has 02:16:03 Though we have some ideas, and SCALE would like to know. 02:16:10 and that would be, herlo . . . . 02:16:20 at least from vwbusguy's perspective anyway 02:16:29 lcafiero: Fedora takes the RHCE prep class... 02:16:44 Ah. 02:17:02 probably do a 3-4 hour prep from whatever we come up with at FUDCon and pitch to RedHat 02:17:06 * lcafiero will bring an apple to the teacher. 02:17:27 OK, well, then the discussion is probably shorter than I originally thought. 02:17:30 Wait a sec. What are we doing with RHCE? 02:17:47 lcafiero: lol, I'm not the teacher, just going to be a helpful mentor while people go through and figure out how to pass the exam... 02:18:06 StabbyMc: it's a long story, but essentiall the pitch came from Mchua 02:18:08 stabby! :) 02:18:09 Step 1: Open the book. :-) 02:18:21 has this been run past rrussell? 02:18:40 StabbyMc: no, it's in the infant stages 02:18:59 it's not a RHEL course 02:19:04 Before we start doing anything publicly, you probably need to get his sign off. 02:19:06 Well, then, the FAD =might= be RHCE prep class, then. 02:19:10 Doesn't matter if it's RHEL or not. 02:19:11 StabbyMc: that's in the plan 02:19:28 we're not announcing this until we get more informatino at FUDCon next weekend 02:19:34 He needs to be in the loop to verify that no exam-specific info is being shared, otherwise some of us put our RHCX at risk. 02:19:40 whcih is why it is only being talked about here 02:19:44 kk 02:19:50 StabbyMc: indeed, and understood 02:19:51 * StabbyMc goes back on lurk. 02:19:54 OK, then this is still in the discussion phase, so we can just move on to the next topic, one everyone has been waiting for. 02:19:55 lol 02:20:14 for our next topic. . . . 02:20:25 #topic FUDCon Tempe 02:20:35 lcafiero: well, it's the plan unless something comes up that trumps it or it gets removed as not an option. we're just not announcing anything until it's got some blessing 02:20:49 OK. 02:20:54 but you'll see the conversation start at FUDCon 02:21:12 Right - I will pass on to SCALE that the subject is TBD 02:21:18 FUDCon? when is that 02:21:20 but that we're close! 02:21:22 Meanwhile, back at the topic at hand 02:21:26 rbergeron: oh, soon, I think 02:21:30 * rbergeron looks at her calendar, i hope i can make it 02:21:31 Sometime soon. 02:21:38 * rbergeron wonders if everyone has their rooms booked 02:21:41 * rbergeron looks at lcafiero 02:21:43 rbergeron can tell us ALL ABOUT it :-) 02:21:44 rbergeron: I heared this crazy lady is organizing it 02:21:51 :P 02:21:59 FUDCon is very soon. Jan 29-31. 02:22:05 * lcafiero does, but doesn' t know where to put his confirmation information 02:22:06 If you have anything to send me, DO IT NOW. 02:22:38 lcafiero: just put a yes in the column on the wiki. lmk where you are sleeping later tonight. :) 02:22:50 yes, that was a horribly composed sentence. 02:22:51 sorry 02:23:04 anyway: If ambassadors want to do anything - please start adding those things NOW to the wiki. 02:23:09 Right. 02:23:13 lol, I thought rbergeron was coming to sleepover or something 02:23:15 If yo uwnat to organize anything, do it now. 02:23:26 herlo: *evil stare* 02:23:27 :) 02:23:34 moving on... 02:23:53 rbergeron, do you want a fedora table set up at the uni or at the hotel 02:24:07 #link https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FUDCon:Tempe_2011 02:24:13 That's where the info lives. 02:24:28 vilegent: i don't know. I'm not FUDCon. Do you want a fedora table set up at the uni or hotel? :) 02:24:31 Funny you should mention that VileGent 02:24:44 I asked jsmith about that today and it doesn't appear that we're going to have a table 02:24:46 my concern with the uni is that I don't know if we need a stupid permit or something. 02:24:51 lcafiero, we brought it up earlier today 02:24:51 in the expo/trade show sense. 02:25:04 I asked him in #fedora-fudcon 02:25:29 * rbergeron thinks it would be kind of cool and would be happy to stick rrix on it, lol, to investigate - at least for Monday 02:25:46 the whole event is open, there will be tables with people and stuff all over 02:26:17 OK, well then, I guess there's going to have to be further discussion on this. 02:26:43 lcafiero: send a mail to the fudcon-planning list. 02:26:46 Or someone. 02:26:51 Just not me. I have enough fudcon things to deal with atm. :) 02:26:57 No doubt 02:26:59 * rbergeron shirks all responsibility for anything else. 02:27:00 :) 02:27:39 rbergeron, we can set a table up, you point and tell us where it will happen period 02:27:43 #action lcafiero will ask the fudcon mailing list about the status, if any, of a table 02:27:58 vilegent: and I can probably acquire a table from my mom if need be. 02:28:07 The hotel should have one. 02:29:20 Well, i don't know if they'd, say, let us take it to campus or something like that. 02:29:24 my event box will be on the truck tomorrow night 02:29:26 Anyway - we'll figure it out. 02:29:31 That we will 02:29:34 OK then 02:30:04 * inode0 starts burning DVD #4 02:30:06 scheduled to be delivered to the hotel on the 26th 02:30:17 Can we move forward, or is there anything we need to discuss further on FUDCon? 02:30:18 vilegent: cool. 02:30:56 forward! 02:31:14 OK then 02:31:27 #topic Budget Review 02:31:29 rbergeron, i land the same day so if you need help let me know 02:31:48 #link https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FAmSCo_budget 02:31:55 will do. 02:32:13 To NA we should add $1224 for the vertical banners for WC and Canada 02:32:33 But I think that's the only change here. 02:32:46 We'll be adding some for scale, also. 02:33:04 once it's sorted out. :) 02:33:13 right. That has yet to be determined and, as I mentioned in announcements, the item about SCALE budget has been withdrawn. 02:33:36 We'll bring it back for the next meeting. 02:33:57 * rbergeron nods 02:34:33 Anything we need? 02:35:42 Guess not. OK then. 02:35:54 Moving on. 02:35:56 there was some mention of geting atom netbooks for the event boxes 02:36:03 Ah, that's right. 02:36:14 not sure if we were agendizing it for the meeting or each of us were just going to do it per the <500 approval 02:36:25 * sthistle has an AAO 110.. bad SSD but works on USB.. Welcome to it. 02:36:54 Heh. Does it work well with Fedora? That seems to be the issue -- the HPs take a lot of tweaking, apparently. 02:37:11 Worked fine for me.. Wireless and everything.. 02:37:12 * nb likes his asus, it works great with fedora, no tweaking 02:37:19 it wasn't agendized, nb, but we can discuss. 02:37:24 lcafiero, k 02:37:25 I Eee Pc 900A works with Fedora 02:37:37 * nb has eee pc 1001p 02:37:40 i = my 02:37:50 It has excellent battery.. 1GB.. just the SSD died or something. Cannot get replacement in Canada for it. 02:37:51 inode0 had a lot to say about this last week, I believe. 02:38:00 * inode0 doesn't care about atom or whatever - just whatever works great with Fedora so we aren't embarrassed to boot up in front of someone at a booth, ok? 02:38:12 right. 02:38:52 I can just send it to someone. If it works, keep it.. If not, toss it. I will probably not be at any of the shows in the US. 02:38:57 sthistle: I have an extra big whopping 4gb ssd mini pci. If you would like it 02:39:34 lcafiero: I setup the HP in the WC event box. I don't recall it being that difficult, but if a netbook is preferred, let's do something with the HPs that's useful :) 02:39:46 s3cur17y, sure.. send it and I can try to install it.. 02:39:55 ok. 02:40:03 herlo: can you boot a live image and have wireless work? 02:40:22 Right, and I've never had a problem or an embarrassing moment with the WC hp mini, but others' mileage may vary. 02:40:25 how about plymouth? or do we want people seeing the little progress bar instead? 02:40:46 inode0: dunno, haven' 02:40:48 http://www.amazon.com/ASUS-1001PXD-MU17-BK-10-1-Inch-Netbook-Black/dp/B004AWEZ82/ref=sr_ob_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1295404712&sr=8-1 is an idea 02:40:51 tried 02:40:57 its about 289 02:40:59 none of that works 02:41:05 k 02:41:09 * herlo isn't arguing 02:41:15 s3cur17y, Will drop you a note offline.. 02:41:17 we can function with the limitations - showing it off doesn't impress anyone 02:41:18 just saying we should do something useful with the HP's 02:41:35 like give them away as a thank you or something 02:41:38 Just be careful of the netbooks with the clickpads 02:41:41 * herlo notes he doesn't mean himself... 02:41:47 sthistle: ok. 02:42:08 * inode0 just thinks it is ridiculous we don't have hardware that *really* makes Fedora look its best 02:42:47 inode0, +1 02:42:51 Good point. 02:42:52 lcafiero, they are getting slow 02:44:06 OK. I haven't noticed but, to be honest, i turn it on face it away from me at the table and never look at it. 02:44:12 If you don't mind me putting my two cents in, look at some of the gamers. Show them that WoW, CS and other high end games work great with fedora 02:44:38 s3cur17y, most event no network 02:44:43 that would probably require more than a netbook. 02:44:56 Counter Strike can do Lan i think 02:45:06 true 02:45:15 * inode0 thinks we can afford more than a netbook and perhaps should consider it 02:45:22 bring them to FUDCon... 02:45:34 the HP's, that is 02:45:52 let's get 'em reinstalled, if nothing else 02:45:53 they are coming and i will be bringing my acer 10" as well 02:45:55 The WC mini is already there :-) 02:46:08 :) 02:46:08 and mine is installed with f14 02:46:15 I have a Gateway laptop that runs great. Only 399.. And that is CDN. 02:46:19 * dmaxel arrived, finally. 02:47:09 i think for the event box we really need something with a 14+ screen 02:47:12 I would lend my Eee with F14 and a custom kernel, which boots in 8 sec 02:47:34 #action reinstall F14 on netbooks at FUDCon and explore which hardware displays Fedora best for purchase for the event boxes 02:47:59 I guess that would cover it. 02:48:11 OK then 02:48:16 Anything further on this? 02:49:37 Going once . . . 02:49:47 twice 02:49:58 #topic Unfinished business/Open Floor 02:50:55 Central event box should be up and going by the time of ILF 02:51:03 +1 :-) 02:51:09 Excellent 02:51:15 i have the major things, just need to get a couple other things like a router and power strip and extension cord, etc 02:51:29 * nb was going by the list on the wiki 02:51:57 I may have some of that at my office to give you. Let me check and get back to you on list/on channel 02:52:02 lcafiero, ok 02:52:43 nb: that's actually called a "fedora friend finder" 02:52:51 (power strip) 02:52:54 Heh 02:53:02 * lcafiero forgot, but rbergeron is right 02:53:15 * inode0 burns DVD #5 - join the party, it will be going all night 02:53:26 nb http://www.walmart.com/ip/Belkin-N-150-Wireless-Router/11060711 02:53:32 Join inode0's party before all the donuts are gone. 02:53:59 * inode0 will run out of donuts before he does all of them, really needs help 02:54:32 inode0, How can I help? Really would like to.. Signed up for the mailing list.. Not sure where else from here :D 02:54:50 I'd like to introduce s3cur17y -- a new ambassador approved today. 02:55:10 From Ohio -- trying to get him to ILF and will DEFINITELY get him to OLF :-) 02:55:21 sthistle: login to trac and see if you can grab a ticket?! 02:55:30 might need to wait until you get approved 02:55:40 will do. 02:55:52 oh.. some activity on cossfest mailing list. 02:55:58 :) 02:56:08 Really? Oh my god, it's alive! 02:56:09 Already talked to the wife about both of them.. 02:56:12 mostly related to domain renewals.. at least someone who might know something 02:56:41 Good. Keep an eye on that, sthistle, if you would please. 02:57:26 Glad to hear that, s3cur17y -- you can also mention that it's a good place to network for a job :-) 02:57:49 yeah that was part of the plan 02:58:02 so good i will have booth help at OLF 02:58:30 Any other announcements? 02:58:37 Old business? 02:58:37 s3cur17y, bring your wife and mine will drag her off yarn shopping 02:58:42 Open floorage? 02:58:47 :) 02:58:50 heh 02:59:25 OK, it looks like we can bring this in at under an hour 02:59:39 then we can all go help inode0 burn some DVDs 03:00:12 Hearing no further open floor 03:00:16 items . . . 03:00:22 Wrapping up in 5 03:00:24 4 03:00:26 3 03:00:40 2 03:00:42 1.5 03:00:45 * inode0 would love to clean the queue tonight 03:00:48 1 03:00:51 0.5 03:01:01 let's burn, folks 03:01:04 #endmeeting