05:01:22 <tagoh> #startmeeting i18n
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05:01:28 <tagoh> #meetingname i18n
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05:01:32 <tagoh> #topic agenda
05:01:33 <juhp> hi
05:01:42 <tagoh> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/I18N/Meetings/2011-01-27
05:02:15 <epico_laptop> hi
05:02:26 <dueno> hi
05:02:45 <fujiwarat> hi
05:02:56 <tagoh> hi guys
05:03:50 <tagoh> nkumar is away today I think.
05:04:51 <paragan> hi
05:05:01 <pravins> hi
05:05:04 <tagoh> anyway, let's get started then
05:05:11 <tagoh> #topic F15
05:06:03 <tagoh> well, congrats. RupeeSign feature are approved by FESCo in yesterday's meeting though there seems some questions in wiki
05:06:33 <juhp> cool
05:06:35 <tagoh> for IndicTypingBooster, pending now for some questions and will be evaluated in next meeting it seems.
05:06:43 <juhp> aha
05:07:04 <tagoh> paragan, pravins: please follow up for those questions
05:07:13 <pravins> tagoh: yeah, just saw those
05:07:20 <paragan> tagoh, thanks
05:07:30 <dingyichen> hi
05:07:40 <pravins> juhp: tagoh nkumar fixing some ibus-tables issues
05:08:06 <tagoh> aha. good. the dependency issue seems the point for waiting
05:08:19 <pravins> but problems looks that when user press first key, since they are so many phrase matching with it, it add some delay
05:09:29 <tagoh> #action paragan, pravins to comment for questions in the feature page
05:09:32 <pravins> so, i was thinking if we look into db, only when user will press 2 key's in that way number of phrases matching with that will be low and delay will be less
05:09:49 <paragan> I will add the needed information to rupeesign feature page
05:10:04 <tagoh> paragan: cool
05:11:02 <pravins> tagoh: if we can fix ibus-table issues, in that case we no need to create package for scim-tables
05:11:15 <tagoh> sounds good
05:11:30 <pravins> lets target for ibus-tables only, that is good
05:12:47 <tagoh> for upcoming event on f15 schedule, branching f15 from rawhide happens 8th of February.
05:13:07 <tagoh> any concerns so far for f15?
05:14:28 <juhp> aha
05:14:59 <tagoh> juhp: do you have anything? :)
05:15:54 <juhp> nothing very particular - any bugs bugs we should be worrying about for alpha or beta?
05:16:53 <tagoh> 1 blocker and 3 targets so far though, there may be more in rawhide bugs perhaps
05:17:09 <juhp> .bug 652513
05:17:11 <zodbot> juhp: Bug 652513 need some exception to have LANG=en_US in grub.conf for CIJK - https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=652513
05:17:29 <juhp> any ideas about this one?
05:18:23 <tagoh> discussion seems getting stuck on #663900 for that
05:18:27 <tagoh> .bug 663900
05:18:32 <zodbot> tagoh: Bug 663900 RFE: getty: fix up locale settings for indian languages when run on console - https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=663900
05:19:02 <juhp> ah
05:20:03 <tagoh> let me ping on 652513 for workaround
05:20:12 <juhp> hm I should have asked Lennart - since he is here
05:20:19 <tagoh> aha
05:20:42 <juhp> missed that bug
05:21:16 <juhp> should we close 652513 as a duplicate or do we have two issues?
05:22:44 <tagoh> well, may depends - if it takes a time for fixing, grubby would be a candidate to get a workaround. but sure that would be nice if we can have a right solution on this issue.
05:22:53 <juhp> okay
05:23:43 <tagoh> does anyone have any concerns on your bugs or any interests on watching bugs?
05:23:45 <juhp> well anyway guess console locale is not a stopship bug but bit annoying
05:24:35 <tagoh> would be good to escalate to a blocker or target if it's important enough and worth getting fixed in f15
05:24:47 <tagoh> juhp: right
05:25:15 <tagoh> ok, anything else? otherwise let's move on
05:25:54 * juhp has to move room now for the fedora talks next at LCA... (jds2001 and dgilmore)
05:26:05 <tagoh> #topic Package Updates
05:26:14 <juhp> bbs
05:26:18 <tagoh> any updates for testing?
05:27:56 <tagoh> nope?
05:28:22 <tagoh> ok, shall we move on
05:28:27 <pravins> yes
05:28:30 <tagoh> #topic Fonts and Rendering
05:29:02 <tagoh> one from me, just generated the default fonts table for f15 as I posted on the list
05:29:06 <tagoh> http://tagoh.fedorapeople.org/fonts/f15-defaultfonts.html
05:30:05 <pravins> tagoh: do we need fixed for .conf files?
05:30:11 <tagoh> pwu_laptop: that reminds me how's separate chinese locales going on. is it finished?
05:30:45 <epico_laptop> yes, committed in comps-f15.xml.in.
05:31:04 <epico_laptop> sorry, fonts or comps split?
05:31:27 <tagoh> pravins: there are nothing preventing that in the policy so far. I was about to file bugs for packages that have no conf files. but seems not particularly required in the policy but optional
05:31:51 <epico_laptop> tagoh: I think the fonts is finished in fedora 14 GA.
05:31:55 <tagoh> epico_laptop: maybe both :)
05:31:58 <pravins> tagoh: nice
05:32:10 <epico_laptop> tagoh: comps split may appears on Fedora 15.
05:32:33 <tagoh> pravins: would be nice if we have one for all of fonts packages anyway though
05:32:48 <tagoh> epico_laptop: is there anything else tasks need to be done?
05:33:05 <pravins> tagoh: yeah, will check once for that
05:33:13 <tagoh> pravins: cool
05:33:31 <epico_laptop> tagoh: no. maybe just see the feedback from users.
05:33:38 <tagoh> ok, good
05:35:13 <tagoh> pravins: we could file a RFE for tracking. but not as a bug
05:35:34 <tagoh> anyway, anything else for fonts and rendering?
05:36:14 <pravins> yeah, having bugs will help
05:36:51 <tagoh> seems less activities on fixing bugs for fonts ;)
05:37:42 <tagoh> will ping behdad again for any chance of new fontconfig...
05:38:50 <tagoh> ok, shall we move on then
05:39:16 <tagoh> #topic Input Method
05:39:39 <tagoh> any updates or concerns for IM?
05:41:10 <fujiwarat> Yesterday I integrated new ibus tarball with some bug fixes.
05:41:18 <tagoh> cool
05:41:23 <pravins> tagoh: bit confused for ibus-table and indic-typing-booster
05:41:54 <nkumar> hi
05:42:03 * pravins and nkumar will discuss for it may be today or tomorrow
05:42:04 <tagoh> nkumar: hi
05:42:27 <tagoh> pravins: aha
05:42:38 <pravins> but for now best point i think is to just take required feature from ibus-table and add required for indic languages
05:43:38 <tagoh> and drop the deps for ibus-table?
05:44:08 <pravins> tagoh: yeah, that will be best options, since i am thinking for some exceptions conditions for indic, which is not required for ibus-table
05:45:31 <pravins> may be later we can think for merging feature with adding some options in ibus-table
05:45:40 <pravins> nkumar: what you think about this
05:45:45 <pravins> ?
05:45:51 <tagoh> pravins: ok. well, would be nice to read the whole logs in the FESCo meeting maybe - there was some questions to have some indic input packages. though they have some interests in predictable input
05:46:32 <pravins> tagoh: sure
05:47:01 <tagoh> pravins: good to have a milestone. you could integrate both for common features later right
05:47:14 <nkumar> yep, this will be easier to maintain
05:47:47 <pravins> great
05:48:02 <tagoh> dingyichen, dueno: do you have any updates for IM?
05:49:42 <tagoh> #topic other
05:50:03 <tagoh> anyone else for anything you want to bring up before closing this meeting?
05:50:07 <dingyichen> tagoh, working on fix for ibus-chewing in RHEL 6.1
05:50:20 <dueno> tagoh: nothing from me, except I'm rewriting eekboard...
05:50:39 <tagoh> dingyichen: aha. is that bug happens in f15?
05:50:41 <dingyichen> tagoh, also participate the test run for zh_TW for RHEL 6.1.
05:50:51 <dingyichen> tagoh, nope.
05:50:54 <tagoh> dueno: aha.
05:51:08 <tagoh> dingyichen: ok, good then.
05:53:18 <tagoh> ok, let's stop the meeting here. thanks everyone for the meeting!
05:53:27 <tagoh> #endmeeting