02:02:27 #startmeeting Fedora Ambassadors North America meeting Feb. 15, 2011 02:02:27 Meeting started Wed Feb 16 02:02:27 2011 UTC. The chair is lcafiero. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 02:02:27 Useful Commands: #action #agreed #halp #info #idea #link #topic. 02:02:32 OK that's better 02:02:34 yo 02:02:46 #topic Announcements 02:02:57 Let 'er rip, guys and gals. Floor is open 02:03:02 present 02:03:05 present 02:03:07 present 02:03:08 here 02:03:10 .fas herlo 02:03:10 here 02:03:10 herlo: herlo 'Clint Savage' 02:03:20 lcafiero: so what business is on the agenda? 02:03:24 present 02:03:30 good question: 02:03:50 scale 02:03:53 #link agenda https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Meeting:Ambassadors_2011-02-15 02:04:05 there's the agenda 02:04:10 * VileGent 02:04:13 sorry - should have posted that first 02:04:43 I'd like to give an update on ILF as well, if I may 02:04:47 So, announcements? 02:04:53 Sure, pcalarco 02:05:11 * VileGent is looking for his manatee 02:06:23 VileGent: what does he look like? 02:06:30 Has anyone seen VileGent's manatee? 02:06:38 :) 02:06:52 OK, pcalarco -- ILF 02:07:20 I added myself after the others on the agenda 02:07:42 LFNW is accepting talks, several fedora talks already submitted 02:07:43 Ah, OK, so that's under events 02:08:56 Right. I am hoping mine is one of them :-) And we will have a table at LFNW this year. 02:09:34 OK, any other announcements? 02:10:55 Going once . . . 02:11:03 twice . . . 02:11:28 OK, we can take anything not covered here in open floor at the end 02:11:32 Next on the agenda 02:11:42 #topic Events 02:11:53 #link https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FedoraEvents 02:12:46 Fedora Activity Day SCALE -- want to give an update, herlo? 02:13:10 oh, hai 02:13:13 sure 02:13:58 So, as many of you know, the FAD at SCaLE will be a study group for those who are interested in becoming a sysadmin 02:14:36 whether on Fedora, RHEL or other distro, we've worked on a few things to make it easier to get together and study to get a better skill set, certifications and such 02:14:57 "other distro" including Debian, Gentoo, etc? 02:15:33 I've now got a full mirror of fedora os and updates repos, which should allow us to enable those who wish to install Fedora on a vm, plus a local mirror for yum installation and the like 02:15:40 vwbusguy: sure, but I'm not providing a mirror for that :) 02:15:45 lol 02:15:45 certifications do not typically include fedora at all. they mostly focus on rhel. 02:16:15 fenrus02: yes, this is true, but Fedora is the basis for rhel, thus most of the components used there should be comparable 02:16:30 fenrus02: there is a motivation here 02:16:32 Pat232011, are you here 02:17:28 we have the intention of eventually enabling Fedorans the opportunity to take a particular certification test, but those details are yet to be released. This is the first dry run at a study group for such an event. 02:17:35 herlo, not really accurate at all for certs though. rhel5 ~= fc6 for example. if you are used to f14, you will not pass. 02:18:03 Yes VileGent I am here. 02:18:32 fenrus02: I disagree on this, but it's not a good place for this discussion. Besides, this is a dry run. It's possible others may have other certifications in mind, LPI, for one 02:18:54 +1 for certifications! 02:18:59 anyway, the tools and functionality are there, plus we're not here to guarantee a pass on an exam, we're here to help you study 02:19:32 Southern_Gentlem took some time to make a nice pdf of some study guides which we will be using at the event 02:19:32 el6 -> f14 is not an enormous difference 02:19:59 it's something we're looking at, the distro difference... 02:20:08 but not something we're going to solve this time 02:20:36 Right -- big thanks to Southern_Gentlem for the pdf, and the FAD is on Friday, Feb. 25, which is the first day of SCALE, which runs from Feb. 25-27 02:20:41 anyway, the plan is to help inviduals who want to better their sysadmin skills to join us at the FAD 02:20:49 9am-5pm lcafiero ?? 02:21:05 And as the first time we're doing this, it'll be the place where we work out the kinks 02:21:22 Yes. We have the room for the whole day. 02:21:24 I will print out 15 copies for this session... 02:21:35 (I will be late -- I have a presentation to give at 9) 02:21:40 * vwbusguy thanks herlo for doing this 02:22:28 Yes, thank you herlo and Southern_Gentlem for doing most of the legwork on this one. 02:23:20 Anything else on this? 02:23:25 nah 02:23:28 should be fun 02:23:39 Indeed. 02:23:40 sorry, internet access is crappy atm 02:23:58 OK, next on the agenda . . . . 02:24:38 #topic SCALE budget/sponsorship 02:24:51 sorry I'm late 02:25:05 No prob, maxamillion 02:25:14 #link https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/SCALE_9X_Event 02:26:26 If you scroll down to the budget part of that page, you can see that after crunching numbers for the better part of the day, we came up with a figure of $2,877 02:27:48 And that figure could probably be lower since $200 of that is a buffer we put in early on to offset any overruns, which I don't expect. 02:27:59 oh 02:28:07 * nb didn't notice the meeting was starting 02:28:14 welcome, nb :-) 02:29:41 At the last meeting, I asked to come back with a final number and that's it: $2,877 02:29:54 Can I get an Amen? 02:30:14 Amen, brother! 02:30:17 +1 02:30:54 +1 02:31:10 +1 02:31:25 i motion we sponsor SCALE as per the budget proposed 02:31:59 moved 02:32:31 * lcafiero is pointing out that the motion is moved; he'd second but as the meeting chair, he can't 02:32:53 it is already approved inside the budget that was just approved 02:32:54 minor parliamentary note 02:33:00 It is in the budget, yes. 02:33:15 ok glad I wasn't the only one thinking that :) 02:33:24 +1 02:33:31 to the budget 02:33:32 + 02:33:34 +1 02:34:11 second 02:34:14 :-) 02:34:18 lol 02:34:22 i thought we already +1'ed it? 02:34:25 but +1 anyway 02:35:13 Hearing no objection, the proposed scale budget, including sponsorship, approved. 02:35:30 Now to Texas 02:35:41 #topic Texas Linux Fest TXLF 02:35:53 go ahead, maxamillion 02:36:01 hi hi :) 02:36:26 so I've started a stub page on the wiki for TXLF https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Texas:LinuxFest_2011 02:36:52 #link https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Texas:LinuxFest_2011 02:36:56 there's a lot of details about the conference that still up in the air from the side of the event planners so sadly I lack quite a bit of the info I had hoped to have 02:37:35 last year Fedora was a Bronze sponsor (http://www.texaslinuxfest.org/sponsorship/) and our link is actually still on the page because they haven't gotten around to cleaning it up (or they are hoping we'll keep it going) 02:37:50 I would like to propose that we sponsor the event as a Bronze sponsor again 02:38:12 "in april" shesh. no real date. :( 02:38:30 n/m, 2/apr 02:38:38 I would also like to request an event box, a list of swag (likely the same as last year, last year's kit was pretty appropriately sized) 02:38:58 I'm for that -- do you remember how much that was, maxamillion -- just curious. 02:39:03 maxamillion, what was it last year 02:39:31 but as far as budget concerns go, I don't think we will need any money outside of the event sponsorship as we should have enough local ambassadors (I just need to round everyone up) 02:39:41 https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Texas:LinuxFest_2010 <--- last years list is on thei wiki page 02:39:47 sorry, I thought I had linked that 02:40:37 I also wanted to ask if anyone has been in contact with the Ambassador in charge of the FAmNA polos? I've email as the wiki page says to but its been a couple weeks and still have not gotten a response 02:40:42 maxamillion, meet Pat232011 hopefully you guys can get him there as well 02:40:49 Pat232011: hello 02:40:54 Pat232011: where you located? 02:41:45 maxamillion, its pcalarco 02:41:50 Good, maxamillion -- can you bring further details back to the next meeting and keep us posted 02:41:57 pcalarco: ping ? 02:42:09 * inode0 suggests being open to help one or two of our new Texas people get there if they can 02:42:11 lcafiero: that would be great, I just wanted to be sure and bring it up and raise awareness 02:42:19 inode0: agreed 02:42:23 yep here 02:42:29 I will be updating the wiki page as I get information 02:42:33 Right -- TXLF is definitely on our radar. 02:42:52 pcalarco: I was just wanting to double check and make sure you got my email about the FAmNA polos and was curious if there was anything else I needed to do 02:42:56 ok, so I have firmed up some details and scoped out some likely costs 02:43:00 +1 to inode0 -- let's try to get new people there. 02:43:13 and old ones too :-) 02:43:36 we have several who basically live there now 02:43:39 maxamillion: you can basically order one direct from the vendor. Costs are a bit higher, but more immediate 02:43:41 Anything else on TXLF? 02:43:54 pcalarco: oh? that'd be great ... how might I do that? 02:44:02 maxamillion: I will email you 02:44:06 Great 02:44:09 OK 02:44:13 lcafiero: no, unfortunately not ... just waiting on the event planners 02:44:21 pcalarco: many thanks 02:44:35 is the call for talks open? poke people if so or when it happens as it is getting close 02:44:42 maxamillion: np, thx for the ping 02:44:47 Actually, I think it is, inode0 02:44:50 inode0: the call got extended to this comming saturday 02:45:15 send something to the ambassadors list :) 02:45:27 will do, I'll craft something later this evening 02:45:41 spevack might want to check his schedule again ... 02:46:09 inode0: sounds good 02:46:10 Right, and don't be shy -- if you're attending and want to speak, submit a proposal. 02:46:34 Anyway, moving along to Indiana 02:46:46 #topic Indiana Linux Fest ILF 02:46:50 woot 02:47:01 ok, https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FedoraEvents/ILF_2011 02:47:22 #link https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FedoraEvents/ILF_2011 02:47:29 pcalarco, the floor is yours 02:47:38 I've estimated some travel costs and come up with a more firm budget 02:47:47 is swag included in eventbox? 02:48:00 I believe so 02:48:10 unless we have to make more 02:48:31 no need to expense swag unless you need something special we don't have 02:48:44 Right 02:48:48 * inode0 might still try to make it to this also 02:48:57 ok, so I think we'll need a little over $1300, with five Ambassadors attending; dgilmore also may put in a speaker talk on Fedora infrastructure 02:49:07 Great. 02:49:14 would dgilmore's travel costs be covered by Red Hat? 02:49:18 yes 02:49:25 ok great 02:49:33 but it doesn't matter really 02:49:49 one decision that we still need is whether to have the FAD on the Friday or Sunday 02:50:22 what is the FAD about? 02:50:47 I had proposed to do a FAD around Fedora Insight 02:51:15 although we will have only one FI team member there, so I am not sure how much this makes sense for a FAD there 02:51:15 Great topic 02:51:20 are the people there valuable to that effort? 02:51:28 * inode0 isn't sure what skills are needed to help 02:52:04 oh yeah, I heard a lot about Fedora Insight recently. They need translators, as far as I know. 02:52:10 by this time, we should have FI launched with FWN content, and will be expanding to other Fedora content 02:52:26 And maybe a few more things. They sent a message on a mailing list, though I don't remember which one. 02:52:36 and is that something I could be trained to help with in 30 minutes? :) 02:53:02 so content creators could be valuable; also drupal folk to help with new functionality and such 02:53:20 logistics, probably 02:53:24 true. I'm helping on all three ends (or I stated that I could) 02:53:35 awesome :) 02:53:47 I'm not familiar with Fedora Insight 02:54:14 Fedora Insight aims to be a one stop portal for learning about the Fedora Project 02:54:25 news, events, views, activites 02:54:40 kerrg, https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Insight 02:54:41 https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_Insight 02:54:46 lol 02:54:46 yep 02:55:01 * nb needs to add rental car for himself 02:55:25 we are building this on Drupal and have Drupal folk in Hungary and Italy helping 02:55:32 Excellent 02:55:36 OK anything else on ILF? 02:55:54 question 02:55:58 I don't think so. there are no additional costs for the FAD 02:56:01 do we need to motion to accept the budget? 02:56:16 would it help any of the folks working on FI to attend drupalcon on Sunday? 02:56:23 do you want to do that now or make sure that the budget is final? 02:56:43 i don't know, just asking. pcalarco? your thoughts? 02:56:48 * inode0 suggests signing off on budget next meeting as I think it might change a bit still 02:56:48 perhaps; stickster thinks drupalcons can be variable in how useful they are 02:56:52 inode0, ok 02:57:00 but we are going to support this 02:57:04 inode0: agreed 02:57:27 indeed 02:57:31 I need to verufy with all of folks involved to make sure everyhting is accurate 02:57:38 thanks gents 02:57:44 eof 02:57:45 thank you pascal 02:57:52 Thanks, pcalarco 02:58:04 OK then 02:58:25 #topic unfinished business/open floor 02:58:43 LFNW next meeting? 02:59:04 Yes, we can talk about LFNW next meeting 02:59:11 or now 02:59:13 It wasn't agendized for this one 02:59:18 But you can talk about it now, if you want 02:59:22 It's open floor 02:59:28 go ahead, jsandys 03:00:03 * lcafiero is a big fan of lfnw 03:00:40 April 30, May 1, several fedora speakers, need a table, and some people to man it 03:01:41 I'll work on a budget with larry and kevin for next meeting 03:01:56 right -- I'm there 03:02:35 That's all i had today 03:02:36 I'll agendize it for discussion at the next meeting, and I should make the wiki 03:03:18 talk to me later about the wiki and budget, jsandys 03:03:29 we can get that started 03:03:41 Anything else? 03:03:49 if you are busy, I can copy and change last years wiki page, you can edit 03:03:53 not from me 03:04:03 If you do that, jsandys, that'd be great 03:04:19 * VileGent battleaxe is saying bedtime 03:04:23 Ah, OK 03:04:27 I can take a hint. 03:04:27 night all 03:04:32 Let's wrap this up in 5 03:04:33 4 03:04:35 3 03:04:39 (anyone?) 03:04:40 2 03:04:43 1 03:04:46 0.5 03:04:47 baaaaa 03:04:52 nn all 03:04:54 find your manatee? 03:04:58 0 03:04:58 yep 03:05:04 #endmeeting