05:04:26 <tagoh> #startmeeting i18n
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05:04:32 <tagoh> #meetingname i18n
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05:04:42 <tagoh> #topic agenda and roll call
05:04:48 <tagoh> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/I18N/Meetings/2011-02-17
05:04:58 <paragan> hi
05:05:00 <epico_laptop> hi
05:05:30 <tagoh> hi, time for weekly fedora i18n meeting
05:05:30 <dueno> hi
05:06:28 <tagoh> if you have any topics more than the agenda above, please update wiki
05:07:05 <fujiwarat> hi
05:07:48 <tagoh> ok, let's get started then.
05:07:54 <tagoh> #topic F15
05:09:36 <tagoh> for updates of schedule, f15 has been branched, and passed away the alpha change deadline and string freeze now.
05:10:27 <tagoh> features has to be complete by 22th of March.
05:10:58 <tagoh> any progress updates on features?
05:12:03 <tagoh> paragan, pravins: ^
05:12:41 <paragan> tagoh, I will update the feature page
05:12:54 <pravins> hi
05:13:01 <tagoh> paragan: ok
05:13:09 <paragan> lohit fonts are already built and available in rawhide
05:13:20 <tagoh> right
05:13:31 <pravins> tagoh: naveen working on feature
05:13:40 <pravins> while discussing with him dueno
05:13:55 <tagoh> paragan: waiting for any volunteers for testing? I see it's still on MODIFIED.
05:13:57 <pravins> it looks like we can improve speed with sqlite, but loading only 100 phrases
05:14:02 <pravins> at at time
05:14:44 <pravins> earlier with increasing x_len it was loading almost .1million something, so now naveen is trying to work on that
05:15:02 <pravins> i guess he will create git for it today or tomorrow may be
05:15:17 <tagoh> pravins: ok. would be nice to see updates on the feature page if any progress happens
05:15:24 <pravins> tagoh: so we can have something for testing
05:15:31 <paragan> tagoh, already tested and pravins has closed them
05:15:42 <tagoh> paragan: ah, ok. I missed that
05:16:33 <paragan> he did it just now :)
05:16:40 <pravins> tagoh: yeah, really me to waiting for that, since after we get something working, need some work on improve dictionary as well
05:16:42 <tagoh> :)
05:17:06 <tagoh> pravins: sure. good to see some progress on it.
05:17:31 <pravins> tagoh: yes, sure :)
05:18:11 <tagoh> any concerns for i18n on f15 so far?
05:19:23 <tagoh> guess we'll get more feedbacks after alpha though
05:19:35 <paragan> bug 677448
05:20:32 <tagoh> aha
05:21:26 <tagoh> is it installed by default?
05:22:43 <paragan> its optional in comps
05:22:55 <tagoh> hm, ok
05:24:32 <tagoh> paragan: thanks for sharing info. let me try to look into it later.
05:24:51 <paragan> welcome
05:24:57 <tagoh> anything else?
05:26:11 <paragan> We need to check if we have any package that is still need to be rebuilt for F15?
05:27:25 <tagoh> aha. yep. guess most packages should be in "failed".
05:27:40 <paragan> Few of my packages that failed to rebuilt for F15, I forgot to block them in koji which is now blocked in rawhide
05:27:56 <paragan> those were already orphaned in pkgdb
05:28:20 <tagoh> I have one too. waiting for some updates on upstream though
05:29:30 <nkumar> hi
05:30:19 <tagoh> nkumar: hi. do you want to update your feature progress?
05:31:29 <pravins> nkumar: we discussed last time to create git and add update code for testing
05:31:48 <nkumar> yep, did some more work on the code after day before yesterday's discussion with pravins and dueno. Limited the number of output to 100
05:31:49 <pravins> s/update/updated
05:32:04 <nkumar> yet to put on git, will do it today or tomorrow
05:32:16 <tagoh> cool
05:32:51 <pravins> nkumar: thanks
05:33:15 <nkumar> pravins : :)
05:33:58 <tagoh> paragan: dunno if the status page is synch'd now. at least my package in rebuild.html is already complete on koji's status.
05:34:20 <paragan> then no need to worry
05:34:33 <tagoh> ok
05:34:49 <tagoh> shall we move on then?
05:35:06 <tagoh> #topic Package Updates
05:35:39 <tagoh> we could helps package testing for f15 here too perhaps if any.
05:36:37 <tagoh> I have one for imsettings: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/imsettings-1.2.0-1.fc15
05:37:49 <tagoh> anyway
05:38:49 <tagoh> anything else?
05:39:38 <dychen> hi, just finished one of the flies meetings.
05:39:52 <tagoh> dychen: hi
05:41:16 <tagoh> ok, let's move on
05:41:21 <tagoh> #topic Input Method
05:41:58 <tagoh> any updates or you want to bring up here?
05:43:04 <fujiwarat> I started to discuss ibus + gnome-shell in gnome-shell upstream.
05:43:21 <tagoh> aha. how is it?
05:43:55 <fujiwarat> Probably we'll integrate all gjs files into gnome-shell since they'd like to do it.
05:44:06 <tagoh> nice
05:46:08 <tagoh> does anyone try to have a look into abrt bugs? there are a lot of bugs for that in bugzilla now though
05:47:46 <tagoh> no? :)
05:48:24 <fujiwarat> I don't notice any problems about ibus.
05:49:10 <tagoh> roughly looking into the bug list, it's for ibus engines?
05:50:04 <fujiwarat> Oh, I don't check the actual bugs
05:50:32 <tagoh> 4 for ibus-chewing 3 for ibus-pinyin?
05:51:44 <tagoh> ok, shall we move on
05:51:49 <epico_laptop> 3 ibus-pinyin bugs in need info status.
05:52:15 <tagoh> epico_laptop: aha. not reproducible for you?
05:52:24 <epico_laptop> yes.
05:53:23 <tagoh> sure. one I got today has weird backtrace log. I'm suspecting something wrong in dbus, but anyway
05:53:59 <tagoh> #topic Fonts and Rendering
05:54:42 <tagoh> trying to clean up some bugs these days.
05:55:34 <tagoh> .bug 677917
05:55:35 <zodbot> tagoh: Bug 677917 fontforge-20100501-python27.patch breaks python module - https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=677917
05:56:03 <tagoh> it's what I filed yesterday though, once it gets fixed, I'm sure we can close 3 bugs at least.
05:57:22 <tagoh> will continue to have a look more bugs anyway
05:58:34 <tagoh> anything else on fonts/rendering?
05:58:38 <pravins> tagoh: i will try to resolve some important one's for lohit next week
05:59:12 <tagoh> pravins: ok. that would be nice :)
06:00:32 <pravins> yes, our bug count will get down at least little bit :)
06:00:40 <tagoh> yeah
06:01:15 <tagoh> #topic Others
06:01:48 <pravins> there is need to do some update in glibc locales as well
06:01:52 <tagoh> ok, anything else we missed in the meeting or you want to share?
06:02:05 <tagoh> pravins: aha
06:02:11 <pravins> like adding U+20B9 as a currency sign for indian locale
06:02:14 <tagoh> do we have a bug for that?
06:02:31 <pravins> bug .514110
06:02:35 <pravins> i think not
06:03:42 <pravins> but i am thinking to submit all the patched once to upstream
06:03:47 <tagoh> does it affect Tamil only?
06:04:12 <tagoh> ok, so we need more fixes then?
06:04:27 <pravins> sorry for confusion, tamil .514110 is only for collation
06:04:39 <tagoh> ah, ok
06:04:51 <pravins> and other locale mostly with _IN need this update
06:04:55 <pravins> for rupee sign
06:05:35 <pravins> paragan: do you thing we should add this thing in our feature? i.e. locale support for rupee
06:06:05 <paragan> yes
06:06:09 <tagoh> if it's required to finish the feature, would be nice to see bugs filed earlier. that would helps to keep them on track
06:06:24 <pravins> nice
06:07:02 <paragan> I am not sure whether RupeeSign feature should also address locale updates
06:07:04 <pravins> i was thinking to concentrate more on harfbuzz but will first finish these important bugs in next week and again try for harfbuzz
06:07:25 <paragan> updating locales should be independent of RupeeSign feature
06:07:55 <pravins> paragan: yes, agree not must but good to have :)
06:07:56 <tagoh> depends on the scope I suppose
06:08:39 <paragan> definitely we should have lndic locales updated for rupee symbol before F15 release
06:09:21 <pravins> paragan: no props, i will make patch next week
06:09:34 <paragan> want me to report bugs? :)
06:09:39 * pravins todo list is increasing :)
06:09:45 <pravins> paragan: yes, welcome :)
06:09:53 <paragan> will do it then
06:10:01 <pravins> tagoh: can you do one fevor for harfbuzz-ng development?
06:10:13 <tagoh> paragan: thanks
06:11:01 <tagoh> pravins: do what? :)
06:11:07 <pravins> i.e. need a test file/application for testing harfbuzz-ng  code
06:11:24 <tagoh> pravins: sure
06:12:07 <pravins> tagoh: that will help lot, since upstream has not yet given that
06:12:18 <tagoh> aha
06:12:22 <pravins> i think it will help somehow to boost indic development
06:12:59 <tagoh> how stable is API now?
06:13:11 <pravins> it is very stable now
06:13:18 <tagoh> aha
06:13:26 <pravins> s/very/very much
06:13:44 <tagoh> ok, let's talk about it after the meeting then
06:13:53 <pravins> tagoh: yes sure
06:14:01 <pravins> thanks :)
06:14:06 <tagoh> better stop the meeting here. thanks everyone for the meeting!
06:14:19 <tagoh> #endmeeting