13:20:42 <kaio> #startmeeting
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13:20:50 <kaio> #meetingname famsco
13:20:50 <zodbot> The meeting name has been set to 'famsco'
13:21:49 <kaio> getting agenda
13:23:29 <kaio> #topic Review open action items
13:23:34 <kaio> anyth?
13:23:46 * gbraad think we should rename this meeting to Peanut Gallery Open Respect Committee!
13:24:21 <gbraad> nope
13:24:52 <igorps> Larry is not here, so we can move to "Draft a proposal to infra and board about easing out the process for applying for a subdomain on fc.o"
13:25:15 <igorps> gbraad, kaio: any news?
13:25:16 <gbraad> same for my topic, related to this
13:25:29 <igorps> ok
13:25:51 <kaio> will get back in coming week
13:25:56 <kaio> next
13:26:07 * kaio liknus posts about Ambassadors SOPs
13:26:56 <kaio> #action gbraad & kaio Draft a proposal to infra and board about easing out the process for applying for a subdomain on fc.o
13:27:34 <kaio> as liknus is not here, I put that to this week action also
13:27:44 <kaio> #action liknus posts about Ambassadors SOPs
13:28:08 <kaio> this has been done - kaio send email to fam list about 600 CD for APAC fam to spread
13:28:21 <kaio> got a couple of fam raised their hands
13:28:22 <igorps> we need new SOPs now
13:28:35 <igorps> Should we start to work on Rahul's topics until he come back?
13:28:47 <kaio> ++
13:28:54 <igorps> yn1v: Did you email him again?
13:29:00 <yn1v> yes I did.
13:29:15 <yn1v> I didn 't get reply this time
13:29:49 <gbraad> I remember he already did some work for this.
13:29:49 <igorps> Ok, let's wait a bit more
13:30:00 <kaio> yn1v, could you please keep it updated, thx :)
13:30:10 <igorps> we need to know what is ready yet
13:30:19 <kaio> ok
13:30:43 <yn1v> kaio, yes... I will email him again.
13:31:19 <igorps> Maybe we will get a limesurvey instance on Fedora infra
13:31:31 <igorps> that would be very helpful for us
13:31:46 <kaio> igorps, cool thx, pls put that as action item
13:32:01 <yn1v> limesurvey was stuck on some libraries that were forked from upstream
13:32:16 <kaio> #chair igorps gbraad yn1v
13:32:16 <zodbot> Current chairs: gbraad igorps kaio yn1v
13:32:28 <igorps> yn1v: I hope it gets its way soon
13:32:47 <yn1v> lime survey as a fedora infraestructure service has been on hold for about one year
13:33:16 <yn1v> I will love to have such tool. Probably we need to push it a bit again
13:33:37 <igorps> #action igorps to check if a limesurvey instance would be helpful for FAMSCo survey
13:34:02 <igorps> There is an ongoing discussion on -advisory-list
13:34:58 <igorps> Even if not on our Infra we can still use limeservice.com
13:36:02 <yn1v> yes, and if we need extra questions beyond the free ones, It has been paid in the past
13:36:44 <igorps> good to know, yn1v
13:37:36 <gbraad> move on?
13:38:16 <igorps> #action yn1v will check with Rahul what he already has for the survey
13:38:42 <igorps> we can move to the next topic
13:39:38 <igorps> next one is from kaio
13:39:59 <kaio> igorps, 600 CDs?
13:40:04 <igorps> "Legal of Fedora Classroom"
13:40:43 <kaio> I think dramsey had been trying to push this among APAC.
13:41:10 <kaio> and there was a thread about which topics should be taught (globally)
13:41:47 <kaio> to make this happen we should plan the infra and list the people who wants to involve
13:41:58 <kaio> i.e. to teach and to be taught
13:42:12 <igorps> We are trying to figure out the same thing for LATAM
13:42:45 <igorps> I guess there are no legal issues here
13:43:03 <gbraad> Legal issues were related to the idea of 'RHCE' topics
13:43:05 <kaio> also another thing is about the "software/skills/knowledge of the tutor"
13:43:31 <gbraad> also keep Kevin in the loop of efforts
13:43:38 <igorps> gbraad: thanks for clarifying
13:43:53 <gbraad> http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Classroom_Help_Wanted
13:44:06 <kaio> gbraad, yes RHCE is demanded but need to be approved by RH if we need to teach it officially
13:44:14 <gbraad> I already discussed with him to be an instructor
13:44:17 <igorps> #link http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Classroom_Help_Wanted
13:44:18 <yn1v> there are some topics that may become 'complicated' like it happen with sqlninja
13:44:33 <kaio> I have RHCE but seems another cert/course need to be done before teaching
13:44:40 <gbraad> #link http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/IRC/Classroom
13:44:45 <yn1v> but I don't think that will happen for latam or apac
13:45:15 <kaio> I think getting a "tutor" cert wont cost more than a RHCE cert.
13:45:22 <gbraad> I am still waiting for a reply of quaid and spevack about further efforts which are related to Fedora Classroom
13:45:57 <kaio> let's get this spinning
13:46:10 <gbraad> personally I am writing material which can be used by Fedora, but also by POSSE
13:46:31 <gbraad> I use it for my own classes I teach
13:47:30 <gbraad> BTW, I also reserved the url fedoraclassroom.org so we can use this if further actions are taken to improve the Classroom sessions
13:47:46 <yn1v> great!
13:47:46 <igorps> that's great gbraad
13:47:49 <gbraad> I think it is a good way to involve communities, but also provide that extra incentive for Fedora
13:49:14 <gbraad> I think we need to discuss a little morpe how we can involve this on a larger scale between, EMEA, APAC and LATAM/NA
13:49:31 <gbraad> I do see the option/needs of differents languages
13:49:58 <igorps> The only way is having classes on local languages
13:50:15 <igorps> but first we need to figure out what classes are desired
13:50:25 <gbraad> #action start the discussion of Fedora Classroom sessions
13:50:31 <igorps> and then put a schedule together
13:51:14 <igorps> I think we should keep this issue for next meetings as well
13:51:40 <igorps> so we can discuss how it is going
13:51:55 <gbraad> +1. I think we need to collect more info. move on?
13:52:04 <igorps> +1
13:52:52 <igorps> kaio: anything else to add to your topics?
13:54:10 <kaio> +1 I will check out about how to get me from RHCE to RHCE tutor. (seems need to get a cert about lab setup etc)
13:54:52 <kaio> #action kaio checks out how to get RHCE tutor and RHCX qualification
13:55:11 <igorps> thanks kaio
13:55:48 <kaio> igorps, hope I am still able to get it before RHEL6 as RHCE testing OS
13:56:16 <igorps> That would be nice!
13:56:38 <igorps> I would like you guys to know that our February report draft is place on the wiki:
13:56:47 <igorps> #link https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FAmSCo_report_2011-02
13:57:08 <kaio> nice
13:57:51 <igorps> I'm wiling to publish it on Wednesday since I'll be off on the rest of the week
13:57:54 * gbraad suggests igorps to do a classroom about publican ;-) and add to http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Docs_Project/Course_for_New_Contributors
13:59:01 <igorps> gbraad: thanks for the suggestion. I'll look into that although I consider myself I publican newbie yet. :)
13:59:46 <gbraad> maybe being a newbie can help to make the gurus understand what to teach
14:00:19 <gbraad> ok, almost an hour.
14:00:25 <igorps> that would be a good approach for sure
14:00:43 <igorps> I'm done with my updates
14:02:07 <kaio> anyth need to update?
14:02:24 <yn1v> not on my side
14:02:28 <gbraad> nope
14:02:50 <kaio> so lets wrap the meeting up
14:03:09 <kaio> #kaio gets 600 CDs out of door by next week
14:03:24 <kaio> #action kaio gets 600 CDs out of door by next week
14:03:39 <kaio> thx guys and see you next week
14:03:44 <kaio> #endmeeting