23:01:07 #startmeeting Fedora Docs Project - Agenda https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Docs_Project_meetings 23:01:07 Meeting started Wed Mar 23 23:01:07 2011 UTC. The chair is zoglesby. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 23:01:07 Useful Commands: #action #agreed #halp #info #idea #link #topic. 23:01:15 #topic roll call 23:01:29 * zoglesby is here 23:01:32 * jjmcd 23:01:37 * rudi is here 23:01:52 '/me 23:02:07 * jhradilek is here. 23:02:28 #topic Follow up on last week's action items 23:02:43 + zoglesby to email list asking maintainers to create transifex.net accounts 23:03:01 this was done (even if it was only about an hour ago) 23:03:19 + zoglesby jjmcd Play catch up Release Notes 23:03:31 been closing the gap 23:03:40 I have not been much help on this 23:03:48 jjmcd: do you want to cover this in the release notes section? 23:03:50 Still a way to go, but it doesn't look quite as bad as it did 23:03:55 Yeah 23:04:03 + rudi to mail docs-list about "Getting Help" resources for docs 23:04:17 Sorry; didn't fo that 23:04:30 Will take care of today 23:04:45 okay, cool 23:05:09 #action rudi to mail docs-list about "Getting Help" resources for docs 23:05:29 #topic Fedora 15 Schedule 23:05:59 I am going to start action iteming the next weeks items so that they show up in the meetings 23:06:06 #action March 28th Translation Deadline: Beta Release Notes (PO Files complete) 23:06:21 #action March 29th Features 100% Complete Deadline 23:06:40 #action March 29th Reminder to Trans that Final Guides POT files are coming 23:06:52 anything on any of this? 23:07:04 The first is actually L10N's 23:07:13 Just that the schedule slipped a week today, so you actually have a bit more breathing room 23:07:20 Yay! 23:07:26 And we probably won't have the pots to them in time to .... YAY 23:07:47 jsmith: oh, I did not hear that 23:07:52 That's the most enthusiasm I've seen for a slip yet! 23:08:01 When is GA? 23:08:07 okay well can I undo three items? 23:08:11 zoglesby: Long story short, the NetworkManager 0.9 stuff made us slip 23:08:22 Sorry jsmith -- I shouldn't be so happy; just coming a bit too hot on the heels of RHEL6.1 Beta! :) 23:08:22 jjmcd: May 24 23:08:29 Prolly still not enough ... 23:08:33 rudi: No worries... 23:08:37 #undo 23:08:37 Removing item from minutes: 23:08:39 But we can cover that next topic 23:08:42 #undo 23:08:42 Removing item from minutes: 23:08:49 #undo 23:08:49 Removing item from minutes: 23:09:00 hope that works 23:09:16 well then moving on... 23:09:18 #topic Release Notes 23:09:24 jjmcd: the floor is yours 23:09:30 OK 23:09:36 Well first of all 23:09:37 #link https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Release_Notes_schedule 23:09:43 Lewis41 has been a HUGE help 23:10:02 We have made a lot of headway on unclaimed beats 23:10:08 and empty claimed beats 23:10:33 We are close to the point where we could call it soup. Not the quality I would want, but we are getting there 23:10:48 I have begun conveting those beats I think are done 23:11:02 I don't have a draft build anywhere public, but they are in git 23:11:12 Now, here's the problem 23:11:16 * jsmith listens 23:11:20 and the slip doesn't help enough 23:11:34 The week of May 16 is the National Level Exercise 23:12:04 I can't say for sure what I will be doing when, but that week and the week or two before I can be pretty confident I won't be workling on Fedora 23:12:13 Of course, that is when the RPM needs to get built 23:12:30 Now, the slip does buy us something 23:12:44 We have time for someone else to make the beta RPM with my guidance 23:13:07 String freeze will be on the 9th of May, so that should (mostly) free you up, excepting zero-day updates, right? 23:13:37 Well, we got string freeze, then L10N goes to work, then when they are done we make the RPM 23:13:52 Actually, we make the RPM when the schedule says and take what L10N has 23:14:24 So that would be May 10 the RPM goes to RC 23:14:38 jjmcd: I should be able to help for the final, but the next 2 weeks I will be moving and I am not sure how much I will be able to do 23:14:50 jjmcd: you have good instructions on the wiki right? 23:14:57 I doubt it 23:15:03 Well, I;m sure there are some 23:15:13 but as far as I know, nobody else has tested them 23:15:42 You don't know what you missed until someone else does it 23:15:56 jjmcd: indeed 23:15:57 It isn't like it is real hard 23:16:06 Heck, it isn't even all that time-consuming 23:16:37 Its just that nobody else has done it in quite a while 23:16:54 A *LOT* has changed since the last time stickster_afk did a complete buils 23:17:01 jjmcd: do you know the date we need to make the beta rpm by? 23:17:04 he has done a few tweaks, 23:17:20 Looks like Apr 7 or so 23:17:29 Prolly a day or two before 23:17:48 Needs to be in updates-candidate by apr 7 23:18:30 okay, I will get up with you that week and take some good notes 23:18:35 And that means it needs to get through Koji 23:19:16 I'll go through it a time or two and check out the instructions 23:19:17 oh 23:19:20 i forgot about the meeting 23:19:56 * rbergeron notes that the schedule is getting pushed out a week, if that helps anyone out. 23:20:00 beta and final. 23:20:03 (sometime tonight) 23:20:09 jjmcd, if we get 3 people around, we can get it through koji quick 23:20:09 jjmcd: I expect to be fully operational again by April 1st 23:20:10 rbergeron, jsmith just mentioned that 23:20:15 ah, okay. 23:20:24 nb, yeah 23:20:31 i didn't see that, just thought i'd throw that out there :) 23:20:33 But they;re never there when you need them 23:20:34 Thanks rbergeron :) 23:20:34 rbergeron: I'm trying to get the word out :-) 23:20:42 jsmith: word :) 23:21:21 ANd actually, I will be out of town 18-22 to boot 23:21:26 of May 23:22:11 The good news is that I thought I was going to be away tomorrow 23:22:25 But they haven't plowed yet so I don't think I'm going anywhere 23:23:41 jjmcd: Yay! 23:24:00 hehe -yeah. Should be able to get the beats in shape 23:24:15 OK, meanwhile, any proofreading that can be done of the beats would be appreciated 23:24:47 I'm still working on Sci/Eng but the others mostly need a review, and perhaps a comparison to the tech notes 23:25:45 to see whether we missed anything major 23:26:26 And just a note - if you want to analyze DNA, do a crystallographic analysis of protiens, or analyze data from your particle accelerator, Fedora is the place to go 23:26:45 lol 23:27:00 We got a lot of cool stuff this release and last 23:27:54 We even have stuff to control your atom smasher and capture the data 23:28:30 * jjmcd is going to have to look in the Make: archives for accelerator plans 23:28:56 I think that's about it on RNs 23:29:31 okay, but make sure not to send us all back in time with your new accelerator! 23:29:44 I'll try to avoid black holes, too 23:29:52 thanks 23:30:00 #topic Guide Status 23:30:16 #link http://nb.fedorapeople.org/docs.html 23:30:36 they only part you won't be able to do is add them to fedora-15-docs 23:30:38 i have to do it 23:30:49 (you have to be a maintainer of the "fedora" project on transfiex to do that 23:31:20 nb has been working on forking and moving guides into tx 23:31:42 nb is our hero 23:31:48 jjmcd: indeed! 23:32:48 as I noted before, guide owners need to let nb know their logins for tx.net so that they can get access 23:33:21 Any other guide stuff? 23:33:39 Not from me 23:34:54 #topic Outstanding BZ Tickets 23:35:01 #link http://tinyurl.com/lbrq84 23:35:38 the only big bug I noticed this week was one filed against the install guide, but it as fixed and closed 23:36:03 so that was the first gnome 3 bug I have seen 23:36:10 hopefully we don't get many more! 23:36:43 Anyone have anything in the world of bugs? 23:38:02 #topic Open floor discussion 23:38:10 Anything else? 23:39:14 All quiet! :) 23:39:45 On a side note, I am going to be offline for the next few days as I move. My new house is not getting internet until the 31st, so if you need to contact me please shoot me an email 23:40:13 if that is all I am going to end the meeting in one min 23:40:25 * jsmith has nothing else to add 23:41:09 alright, thanks everyone! 23:41:10 #endmeeting