20:01:22 #startmeeting EMEA ambassadors 20:01:22 Meeting started Wed Jun 29 20:01:22 2011 UTC. The chair is cwickert. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 20:01:22 Useful Commands: #action #agreed #halp #info #idea #link #topic. 20:01:35 #topic roll call 20:01:39 .fas cwickert 20:01:39 cwickert: cwickert 'Christoph Wickert' 20:01:43 .fas linuxthomass 20:01:44 d3vnull_: linuxthomass 'Isaac Sanni-Thomas' 20:01:51 .fas ib54003 20:01:52 ib54003: ib54003 'Benedikt Schäfer' 20:02:01 .fas eischmann 20:02:01 sesivany: eischmann 'Jiri Eischmann' 20:02:01 .fas gregoryfenton 20:02:05 gregoryfenton: gregoryfenton 'Gregory Fenton' 20:02:33 * cwickert suggests to wait a little until more people show up 20:02:37 .fas vinz 20:02:38 vinzv: nevinz 'Nevin Thomas' - dvinz 'vinz' - vinz 'Vinzenz Vietzke' 20:04:06 * cwickert counts 6 people so far 20:04:07 .fas ardian 20:04:08 ardian: ardian 'Ardian Haxha' - gunma 'Mardian Gunawan' - guardian 'Stephan Kürpick' - rmsc 'Renato Caldas' - dansguardian 'Dansguardian' 20:04:40 * cwickert waits one more minute and then we begin 20:04:57 .fasinfo jsmith 20:04:58 jsmith: User: jsmith, Name: Jared Smith, email: jsmith.fedora@gmail.com, Creation: 2007-05-15, IRC Nick: jsmith, Timezone: US/Eastern, Locale: en, Extension: 5101642, GPG key ID: 8B670B7A, Status: active 20:05:02 jsmith: Approved Groups: cmswriters cla_fpca cmseditors @accounts cla_fedora cla_done docs sysadmin sysadmin-tools docs-writers ambassadors irc-support-operators @elections 20:05:22 ok, lets get started 20:05:22 .fasinfo linuxthomass 20:05:25 d3vnull: User: linuxthomass, Name: Isaac Sanni-Thomas, email: d3vnull.r00t@gmail.com, Creation: 2009-07-13, IRC Nick: d3vnull, Timezone: UTC, Locale: en, Extension: 5134098, GPG key ID: 5FFCC4FA, Status: active 20:05:26 * jsmith will be lurking 20:05:30 d3vnull: Unapproved Groups: marketing 20:05:34 d3vnull: Approved Groups: cla_fpca @gitopenussd cla_fedora cla_done ambassadors 20:05:45 jsmith: we need you, you had an action item last meeting ;) 20:05:54 Doh! 20:06:07 * jsmith better figure out what it was he was supposed to do 20:06:08 ok, welcome to this week's EMEA ambassadors meeting 20:06:17 jsmith: I think you did it 20:06:31 you can find today's agenda at https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Meeting:EMEA_Ambassadors_2011-06-29 20:06:46 .fas gentt 20:06:47 gentt: gent 'Gent Thaçi' 20:06:57 one more note before we start 20:07:08 please be so kind as to follow the meeting protocol 20:07:09 see https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/IRCHowTo#Protocol 20:07:19 #topic Announcements 20:07:24 any announcements? 20:07:31 jsmith: anything from your side? 20:07:44 perhaps our new appointed board member? 20:08:02 Ruediger "Rudi" Landmann has been appointed to the Fedora Board 20:08:09 he will server one full term 20:08:23 one year, two releases 20:09:03 ah, and F13 is end of live 20:09:14 so don't hand any F13 media out if you still have some ;) 20:09:30 any more anouncements? 20:10:01 #topic Ambassadors Schedule 20:10:12 the schedule can be found at http://rbergero.fedorapeople.org/schedules/f-16/f-16-ambassadors-tasks.html 20:10:19 have a look at it please 20:10:55 as you see it is pretty boring from the development or F16 perspective 20:11:07 nothing to do, but we still have to work on promoting F15 20:11:14 questions? 20:11:55 #topic Events 20:12:06 find the next events at https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Events#EMEA-FY12Q2 20:12:39 sesivany: everything prepared for OSSConf? 20:13:00 yes, just waiting for medias if we get some 20:13:23 I don't think we will make it but lets to this later... 20:13:53 then the next big evetn is FrOSCon in August 20:14:05 we have a devroom and I am working on the FAD 20:14:27 we have plenty of Fedora contributors signed up and already some talks 20:14:45 if you want to FrOSCon or want to give a talk, please let me know 20:14:49 and add yourself at https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FrOSCon_2011 20:15:07 ok, anything more on events? 20:15:39 ! 20:15:44 sesivany: go ahead 20:16:09 what about Desktop Summit? if anything needed there I and Jarda will be there for a couple of days. 20:16:34 when is it? 20:16:39 Berlin 20:16:54 Augist 6-12th 20:16:56 https://www.desktopsummit.org/ 20:17:05 for those who don't know what it is... 20:17:16 it is a conference where GNOME and KDE meet 20:17:40 I'll go there because we plan to organize GUADEC 2012 in Brno, just FYI. 20:17:41 sesivany: I know that many Fedora/Red Hat folks will be there, but will we be there as a project? 20:18:09 sesivany: I don't think this will work. GNOME developers want to have sun and a beach at least 20:18:34 they had a GUADEC at Grand Canaria, you think that Brno can compete with that ;) 20:18:35 cwickert: I don't know how it looks like at Desktop Summit, never been there before. 20:18:49 well, it is the first desktop simmit 20:18:57 * kital is late and still working - sorry 20:18:58 cwickert: they don't have many other options so far. 20:19:21 but before GUADEC was always at some interesting place, beach, nice weather and all that 20:19:35 but if you do it in Brno, I will definitely attend 20:19:45 cwickert: we have good and cheap beer ;-) 20:19:53 good point :D 20:20:08 ok, you are back in the race I think ;) 20:20:14 cwickert: if we're talking about event. I'd like to invite everyone to one... 20:21:13 I will organize LinuxAlt in Brno which is the biggest Linux conference and Expo in the Czech republic, hundreds of attentants, we will have a Fedora booth there. It will be at the beginning of November. 20:21:13 which one, sesivany? 20:21:28 is it in the wiki already? 20:21:39 I'll add it. 20:21:44 ! 20:21:56 #action sesivany to add LinuxALt to the events page in the wiki 20:22:20 #action cwickert to send a reminder for FrOSCon and the FAD to ambassadors list 20:22:27 vinzv: your turn 20:22:46 sesivany: do you need any material getting done by the design team? posters or leaflets maybe? 20:23:39 vinzv: we haven't started thinking about that yet, we will need something for sure, I'll let know when we start. 20:24:14 ? 20:24:30 sesivany: okay, if you're at that point just contact me or file a ticket on the design trac 20:24:48 vinzv: perhaps you can say something about the design team? I heard there is are new "event ninjas" now 20:25:00 also tickets in trac seem to get some attantion again 20:25:10 s/attantion/attention 20:25:22 anything the ambassadors should know? 20:25:39 cwickert: let's take that to open floor, okay? 20:25:43 ok 20:25:51 gregoryfenton: your turn 20:26:03 Thank you. I am one of (to my knowledge) only 2 Ambassadors from the UK. There have been no recent events in this country that I am aware of and I was wondering if I could attend an event in another country to get hands on experience that I can use over here to help organise future events here in the UK? 20:26:30 gregoryfenton: sure, I'd love to have you at FrOSCon for example 20:26:42 just have a look at the events page in the wiki 20:26:53 and ask the event owners if/how to attend 20:27:13 you also might want to read https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/How_to_organize_a_Fedora_event 20:27:23 and http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Sponsoring_event_attendees 20:28:11 gregoryfenton: does this answer your question so far? we can discuss details after the meeting 20:28:24 Yes, thanks for that, I will look at the 3 links and see what I can do. I believe the experience will be very useful. 20:28:36 sure, you are welcome to join us 20:28:54 and thanks for joining the ambassadors btw, I think this is your first meeting 20:28:55 ! 20:29:00 sesivany: your turn 20:29:38 cwickert: do we have any active ambassadors in Poland? there are some interesting events as far as I know. I don't know if Fedora is present there. 20:29:48 cwickert: we may cover them. 20:30:08 sesivany: we have some ambassadors, but I am not sure how active they are 20:30:25 http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/CountryList#Poland_.282.29 20:30:39 I think karlik is active 20:30:47 not sure how many events he does though 20:30:48 cwickert: I'll try to contact them and maybe they can be a bit more active with our help :) 20:31:07 and there was pawel, he did a lot of events but I don't think he is active anymore 20:31:16 ok, anything more on events? 20:31:30 #topic F15 release events 20:31:43 have a look at https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/F15_release_events 20:32:05 ardian: anything news about transferring money? 20:32:46 cwickert: Sorry I was so busy with work :( couldn't go there But asap I am going tomorrow and will send you an email 20:32:51 otherwise I'll just send you the ambassadors polos. they are 50 EUR but you don't need to pay for them but use the money for the event 20:33:15 so you spend 50 EUR on the event, I have Pierros pay me the 50 EUR for the shirts 20:33:30 or kital or somebody else who handles budget 20:34:04 ardian, gentt: I will send you 2 polos and some laptop stickers tomorrow and I hope they arrive in time 20:34:14 okay cwickert 20:34:18 ok 20:34:42 cwickert, awesome 20:35:06 #topic State of the F15 Media production 20:35:14 ok, this is really a sad story 20:35:24 everything that can go wrong is going wrong 20:35:37 first our point of contact is on holiday 20:35:44 then they have questions about the order 20:35:58 then they want me to confirm something written, but their mail never reached me 20:36:15 there were problems with the artwork and I had to do some sleeves again 20:36:27 and there was a lot of problems with the dual layer DVD 20:36:46 it seems they are not often doing dual layer data DVDs but only movies 20:37:02 so for them it is actually the first time they do a bootable dual layer DVD 20:37:08 but we solved all problems 20:37:29 right now they are printing the sleeves and pressing the media 20:37:40 and they will be finished next week 20:37:44 and be sent to kital 20:38:00 because I am moving and I don't want to move with 5000 DVDs 20:38:12 so if you have tickets, please assign them to kital 20:38:20 and he will take care of them 20:38:36 I am sorry it takes so long but I cannot change it 20:38:59 thanks cwickert for doing it!!! 20:38:59 when the media are ready next week, they will arrive at kital say on Friday 20:39:04 * gregoryfenton applauds your dedication and patience 20:39:19 and hopefully the week after that kital can start distributing them 20:39:31 kital: no problem, thanks for helping me 20:40:06 questions? 20:41:06 kital: don't start counting the chicken before they hatch, you will have fun when the media arrive ;) 20:41:18 in German "Freu dich nicht zu früh" 20:41:31 #topic Action items from previous meetings 20:41:38 cwickert: ;) 20:41:39 * cwickert looks... 20:42:04 ok, last action items from http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2011-06-15/fedora-meeting.2011-06-15-20.03.html 20:42:13 NOT DONE - cwickert to bring the idea of common event pages up on the wiki 20:42:21 I am sorry, I didn't do it 20:42:52 but if somebody of you is a wiki ninja, just go ahead and create a template with a common header for our event pages 20:43:07 next item: jsmith to ask for feedback about the preferred timed for FUDCons 20:43:14 jsmith: what is the status here? 20:43:42 * cwickert is not sure if jsmith is still around 20:43:51 cwickert: I still haven't heard any feedback, except that perhaps APAC and LATAM will want to swap quarters 20:44:18 did you ask on ambassadors list or only on fudcon planning? 20:44:25 Just on the ambassadors list 20:44:28 ok 20:44:37 the wider the audience, the better 20:45:00 ok, that's all I think 20:45:01 Yes, almost everyone on the fudcon-planning list is also an ambassador 20:45:20 ! 20:45:21 I think we need to pay attention to the visitors and not the organizers 20:45:37 #topic Open Floor 20:45:40 d3vnull: your turn 20:46:36 cwickert,jsmith: I have read several articles on FAD's in several regions esp in Europe for EMEA...what happened to support for Africa?? 20:47:10 d3vnull: Anybody can propose a FAD -- if you want one in Africa, propose one :-) 20:47:25 there is something going to happen I Africa 20:47:35 twohot is working on something HUGE 20:47:40 and I really mean huge 20:47:59 but he is still working on the budget and other details 20:48:09 jsmith: u can ask kital. unfortunately at the time when we requested for this he was unwell, then we had no support..else kital helped make our first presence with pierros in Ghana a success last year. 20:48:43 d3vnull: suggest an event, write a wiki page, file a ticket for the budget and we will see what we can do 20:48:55 We wanted to do this with GNOME. We had Ben Konrath and GNOME waiting for Fedora and we never got back...I mean all the other guys minus kital never responded. 20:49:21 d3vnull: what event are you referring to? 20:49:41 FAD+GNOME Activity in Ghana 20:49:54 is there anything I can read about it? 20:50:19 cwickert: it might have been cleaned up by infrastructure but I can send u mail trails. 20:50:33 we had wiki's on it...etc.. 20:50:50 I'm more than willing to help support a FAD in Africa, but we need to make sure it has a wiki page, tracking ticket, etc. 20:50:58 I never saw a ticket, at least I don't recall 20:51:38 jsmith: we did this. Dont worry...i guess we can always restart the thread. 20:52:03 d3vnull: was it this one? https://fedorahosted.org/emea-swag-tracking/ticket/8 20:52:17 There has been several FOSS events in Ghana...we had PyCon which I attended and represented Fedora and shared some swag left over from Pierros during Idlelo. 20:53:12 ok, things didn't work out as they should 20:53:17 jsmith: maybe this http://d3vnulls.blogspot.com/2010/12/fad-2011-in-ghana.html 20:53:18 but we can still improve 20:54:12 d3vnull: I found https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FAD_2011_GHANA 20:54:23 that's what you are talking about, right? 20:55:06 cwickert: yes. Sascha had told us to speak with you for SWAG...etc. 20:55:22 well, by that time there was no swag 20:55:37 and there is no ticket in the swag tracker 20:55:49 I think what we can learn from this is: do everything in public. post to the mailing lists, file a ticket at https://fedorahosted.org/famsco/ and in the swag tracker 20:55:57 because then it is easier for others to take over 20:56:08 I have no idea what you discussed with Sascha 20:56:20 but unfortunately Sascha has left us and so have his ideas 20:56:38 we shoud not rely on single persons 20:56:56 we needed to be sure we had the right logistics in place before going very very loud. we started with loud. wish I could remember the exact EMEA meeting when I spoke about this. 20:56:57 it needs to be written down so others can take over 20:57:17 I see your point d3vnull 20:57:34 so, when you have something in mind, drop me a mail and I will try to support you 20:57:53 ! 20:58:10 am am working with twohot a lot and I also like to support other parts of afika 20:58:17 cwickert: it was not one person we spoke to, we had all the guys who made Fedora at IDLELO happen with Maddog Hall involved. 20:59:21 sorry, I never heard of it 20:59:33 if I had, I would have supported you 20:59:56 btw, sascha yesterday told me he is going to africa in September 21:00:16 and he asked me if he should bring swag and stuff with him 21:00:32 cwickert: Thanks. We can look forward to FAD before Fedora 17. We have lots of pythonistas here and Im trying to get as many as I can to contribute. :-) 21:00:37 so if you need anything, drop us a mail and we'll try to help you 21:00:46 ok, cool 21:01:03 cwickert: Yes. We are planning on holding a 'mini' event in September. 21:01:09 ok 21:01:51 anything more on this? 21:01:57 or for open floor? 21:02:06 ! 21:02:14 sesivany: yorry I forgot you 21:02:19 I just want to add one more thing I forgot about when we were talking about events. There will be a super conference week in Prague in Oct... 21:02:57 ! 21:03:17 5 events in one week: LinuxCon Europe, Linux Kernel Summit, Embedded Linux Conference, GStreamer Conference, and Real Time Linux Workshop. 21:04:06 too expensive to attend it (LinuxCon is $350-500), but they look for papers, so if anyone of you had an interesting topic to talk... 21:04:18 sesivany: wiki or they never happen ;) 21:05:17 sesivany: what do you think which ones we should target? 21:05:44 cwickert: should I add them even if we don't plan to take part as Fedora? e.g. LinuxCon's audience is not probably our target if admission is >350 dollars. 21:06:34 sesivany: sounds like it's more interesting for red hat's customers. 21:07:02 sesivany: but adding them won't do any harm. 21:07:06 vinzv: Red Hat is going to take part. 21:07:32 sesivany: bring it up on ambassadors list and we can decide which is interesting and which is not 21:07:49 and of there is something left, we start planning for it in the wiki 21:07:53 ok, sesivany? 21:08:00 cwickert: ok, I'll do tomo, too tired today :-/ 21:08:12 ok 21:08:43 ! 21:08:52 #action sesivany to send a mail about LinuxCon Europe, Linux Kernel Summit, Embedded Linux Conference, GStreamer Conference, and Real Time Linux Workshop to ambassadors list. we then decide if one of these events is interesting for us 21:09:07 vinzv: now it's your turn, sorry you had to wait so long 21:09:16 cwickert: nevermind. 21:10:08 okay, as you might have seen there was thread on design-team list about volunteering in an events liaison 21:10:37 http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/design-team/2011-June/004558.html 21:10:37 this one 21:10:49 right 21:11:34 buddhika kurera and me stepped up 21:12:04 so the design team has now two contact persons for any needs of ambassadors 21:12:50 let's say you're organizing a release party for f16 and need a poster but only ask on ambassadors list for it 21:13:03 that's where we come to play 21:13:50 we try to keep an eye on various sources like trac, mailing list and wiki to catch up material needs where the design team can help 21:14:14 there's also a wiki page about the "events ninjas". see https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Design/Events_Ninjas for further info 21:15:01 this whole thing is really new and at the moment I'm responsible for the EMEA area and buddhika for APAC. 21:15:15 #info Buddhika Kurera and Vinzenz Vietzke are our "events ninjas". ambassadors who need artwork for an event should contact them first 21:15:27 LATAM and NA are yet open 21:15:47 #info Vinzenz will handle EMEA and Buddhika will serve the APAC ambassadors 21:15:57 vinzv: thanks a lot for stepping up and doing this 21:15:58 so if there are ambassadors who are also in the design team and would like to take care for one of these two 21:16:29 just contact the design team or any of us. 21:16:41 cwickert: no problem. 21:16:45 eof 21:17:18 ok, you heard it 21:17:21 thanks vinzv 21:17:31 I am sure this will help the ambassadors a lot 21:17:49 because in the past the communication with the design-team wasn't always easy 21:18:00 ok, anything more for open floor? 21:19:41 vinzv: how is it with help from Sirko Kemter who is also a talented emea member of the design team 21:20:12 i think this is a good opportunity to give him some tasks? 21:20:24 kital: absolutely 21:21:00 vinzv: you want to join us at FrOSCon? Sirko will be there, too 21:21:16 kital: i think sirko will mostly take care of design tickets 21:21:27 vinzv: ah cool 21:21:45 cwickert: unfortunately I'm on holidays at that time 21:22:01 so a acting liason officer to every group is a long time dream of me ;) 21:22:16 or is it s/of/from ? 21:22:21 anyway 21:22:34 vinzv: no problem, St Augistin is a nice place for holidays ;) 21:22:39 cwickert: and my girlfriend would lynch me if i'd cancel the flight :) 21:22:52 ok, fair enough 21:23:09 before we start making too much fun we better end this meeting :) 21:23:14 andthing else? 21:23:15 kital: some kind of "single point of failure". :) 21:23:29 * cwickert will close the meeting in 3 minutes if there are no more questions 21:23:49 !!okies, we will have my 'Best' added up, i have completed it 21:23:55 s/liason officer to every group/several liason officer in every group 21:23:58 ;) 21:24:42 'beat' and not 'best' 21:25:51 kital: so you even wanna have more people to blame if something went wrong? :) 21:26:34 thanks to Pascal,Rahul and metherid for helping me out 21:26:36 jsmith as fpl is payed to take all the blame ;) - just joking jared 21:27:54 kital: I know you're joking, but it really is the truth 21:28:02 * jsmith accepts the blame 21:28:12 I only see people joking, time to end the meeting 21:28:14 #endmeeting