19:01:31 #startmeeting Cloud SIG 19:01:31 Meeting started Fri Jul 29 19:01:31 2011 UTC. The chair is rbergeron. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 19:01:31 Useful Commands: #action #agreed #halp #info #idea #link #topic. 19:01:35 #meetingname Cloud SIG 19:01:35 The meeting name has been set to 'cloud_sig' 19:01:38 #topic Roll call 19:01:44 * kkeithley yawns 19:01:50 * rbergeron sips on her delicious appletini, thanks Southern_Gentlem :) 19:01:55 * rbergeron thinks we may be thin today. 19:01:56 * tflink is present 19:02:02 kkeithley: is jdarcy still out of town? 19:02:09 he is 19:02:14 * athmane here 19:02:57 3/me is here 19:03:04 oh, there you are. 19:03:09 Okay, let's get going. 19:03:10 indeed 19:03:12 #topic EC2 status 19:03:24 #info MY FAVORITE-EST TOPIC 19:03:35 jforbes: any news from rel-eng at this point? 19:03:47 From what I have seen in the ticket, they are still working through script issues there, so nothing to test yet 19:03:59 okay. 19:04:11 On the other hand, I did create some documentation to for others to follow in creating their own EC2 images using boxgrinder 19:04:14 * rbergeron saw jgreguske come in... thanks for your help there, along with dgilmore's. 19:04:14 https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Cloud_SIG/EC2_Creation 19:04:19 oh really. 19:04:21 * rbergeron checks it out 19:04:34 #info rel-eng is still working through script issues on koji-->EC2 stuff. 19:04:36 I've been working with dgilmore on it, but progress has been slow. 19:04:49 jgreguske: is that a time issue, or just a technical issue? 19:04:55 Yes, it is a pretty simple process, and the appliance definition files are now being hosted in the cloud-kickstarts git tree on fedorahosted.org 19:05:37 I have not found as much time to work on this as I hoped, and there are technical issues too that we're working through 19:05:50 * jgreguske lets jforbes finish 19:05:53 jforbes: this is awesome, thanks! 19:06:22 No problem, I figure it lets the rest of the world move on instead of blocking on getting official images out there. 19:07:17 it sounds like there is only one more outstanding issue - https://fedorahosted.org/rel-eng/ticket/4808 19:07:55 yeah. So I guess that's the question. Ideally, in an ideal world, we'd have it all rolled into koji and automated. But it's starting to look, timewise, like that's going to take more time than we have if we want to get help from QA, since they're going into test-day mode, and we'd like to get this f15 test done before f16 kicks off. 19:08:31 Well, we also need F16 alpha images 19:08:31 and QA noted 8/1 as a date. jgreguske, can i safely assume you want to have a life this weekend? I hate feeling like we've been pestering you and dgilmore to death, to just change tracks. 19:08:37 I think one thing.. yeah, F16 alpha images. 19:08:49 So maybe we could continue working with rel-eng towards F16 alpha image creation, 19:09:01 and just use the BG-created ones for F15. 19:09:05 thoughts? 19:09:12 * rbergeron is especially interested in what rel-eng, QA have to say here. 19:09:16 not that i don't adore justin and all. 19:09:16 :) 19:09:40 QA seems to be fine with the idea of using the BG images for F15 19:09:48 we just wanted to get the F15 test day done 19:09:53 yeah. 19:09:55 asap. 19:09:58 I'm not Fedora Rel-Eng (dgilmore!) but if 8/1 is the drop-dead date and rel-eng doesn't have "official images" lets go with BG 19:10:00 * ke4qqq shows up late 19:10:02 right 19:10:15 dgilmore: are you about by chance? 19:10:17 and hopefully rel-eng will have official ones for f16 19:10:47 jgreguske: do you think it's reasonable to try and have koji-generated images by alpha time? (8/16) 19:10:57 or do you think you/dgilmore will have to work on it 19:11:10 * rbergeron realizes you are not fedora rel-eng, but appreciates the help IMMENSELY 19:11:12 koji builds them fine (imo) we're just stuck on uploading 19:11:17 or perhaps we should just ping in the ticket 19:11:22 I think that would be best 19:11:22 what's stuck about uploading exactly? 19:11:26 automating that part? 19:11:27 Okay. 19:11:58 presently when the upload script sends the partition image (.raw file) to an EBS volume, we run out of space 19:11:59 So I think we can all agree that (a) We'll use BG-generated ones for F15, so we can get it done, and (b) work with rel-eng towards Alpha koji-generated images. 19:12:11 * rbergeron looks for nodding heads 19:12:30 * jforbes nods to the point of whiplash 19:12:45 Though that could just be the music playing here :) 19:12:53 lol 19:13:00 careful. don't hurt yourself 19:13:06 works for me 19:13:12 athmane: does that work for you? 19:13:31 honestly since I'm flying across the country on Sunday, I'm not too convinced we'll have rel-eng sanctioned images 19:13:40 #agreed We'll use BG-generated images for F15, and work with rel-eng towards alpha koji-generated images. 19:13:44 sanctioned for F16? 19:13:48 or sanctioned by 8/1 19:13:48 for f15 19:13:50 for F15 19:13:52 okay 19:14:05 yeah, i figured you/dennis weren't wanting to slave all weekend either. :) 19:14:33 tflink, athmane: so let's proceed wiht a test day. when is good, how long do we need for advertising? 19:14:40 Do we want to go back to the tuesday plan, or is there a good day in mind? 19:14:53 the 8/4 test day is still unclaimed 19:15:42 That works, I will not be around from the 6th - 18th 19:15:44 I don't see a problem with doing the test day any of 8/2 - 8/4 if we're using the BG AMIs 19:15:55 sorry, I'm doing other stuff 19:16:11 athmane: no worries 19:16:30 tflink: is it best to use the 8/4 date for something that's actually F16? 19:16:44 I think it would work well in terms of having time to advertise and such 19:16:58 the odds of something coming together by then are slim 19:17:02 something else, I mean 19:17:03 note that we need some people during test day 19:17:05 * rbergeron nods 19:17:09 yep, we do. 19:17:26 * rbergeron notes she can be around, because she's always so... um... helpful about this kind of stuff. 19:17:32 I will be around as long as it is next week 19:17:33 from qa and cloud-sig 19:17:41 knowing if gholms is around would probably be helpful. 19:17:42 * jgreguske will be gone 19:17:55 oh, he's on vacation all next week. 19:18:03 I'll be around next week 19:18:16 Well, we'll have cloud folks around who will want to help. even if i have to learn via trial by fire. ;) 19:18:26 The week after that, I will be on vacation, followed by KVM Forum/Linuxconf 19:18:30 jforbes: does 8/4 work for you? athmane? 19:18:41 rbergeron: 8/4 works for me 19:18:43 jforbes: ooh, you'll be at linuxcon too? :) 19:18:48 * rbergeron will have to buy you a beeyor. 19:19:04 I'm always available after 18:00 utc+1 19:19:38 rbergeron: Well, KVM Forum is co hosted with it, technically I will be in team meetings most of that time, but I will be around until 8/17 19:19:46 cool. 19:19:54 And certainly in need of beer 19:20:04 okay, let's schedule it for 8/4, and start advertising... Monday morning? tflink, athmane, does that work? 19:20:15 works for me 19:20:18 +1 19:21:01 Sounds good, I will get word out on the planet and socials 19:21:53 okay. 19:22:08 #agreed F15 EC2 test day will be 8/4. 19:22:17 What do we need to do between now and then? 19:22:19 tflink, thoughts? 19:22:39 update wiki page 19:22:41 mostly get the word out, I think 19:22:57 prepare announcement 19:23:03 and figure out what's going on with the credits for the first x testers 19:23:14 what will happen, rather 19:23:49 okay. who is taking responsibility for that stuff? 19:24:05 I can do the announcements 19:24:17 #action tflink to do announcements for F15 ec2 day 19:24:20 I update the wiki 19:24:33 #action athmane to update ec2 test day wiki 19:24:44 #action rbergeron to praise everyone for their awesomeness 19:24:50 anything else? 19:24:59 oh. 19:25:17 #action rbergeron to ping in rel-eng ticket about viability of producing something for F16 alpha from koji 19:25:18 someone please send me ami ids 19:25:24 nothing else from me 19:25:26 jforbes: same AMI ids? 19:25:35 can you shoot them over to athmane? 19:25:39 or the list, whatever? 19:25:45 athmane: AMI IDs are on https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Cloud_SIG/EC2_Images 19:25:54 ok, noted 19:26:00 #info AMI IDs are on https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Cloud_SIG/EC2_Images 19:26:07 excellent. moving on 19:26:08 #topic CloudFS 19:26:14 kkeithley: hi 19:26:36 kkeithley: any updates/issues/questions? 19:26:42 one 19:27:11 wondering if I'm playing the karma game to get the cloudfs (and gluster) rpms into f16 or not 19:27:25 how is that? 19:27:26 oh 19:27:39 I didn't see the cloudfs in the f16 mail 19:27:43 * rbergeron has no idea. does it need love? 19:27:46 okay. 19:27:55 ummmm - anyone else have thoughts? ke4qqq perhaps? 19:29:11 * tflink isn't sure what you're talking about 19:29:17 does cloudFS need testing/karma? 19:29:48 yeah, i'm not quite sure what kkeithley means but.. :) 19:29:53 tflink: I guess yes 19:30:08 unless it pushed into rawhide 19:30:21 if you need testing/karma, the best place to start is asking on the cloud-sig list, probably, or perhaps doing a blog post, etc. 19:30:28 there was an email for the f16 branch/build and I didn't see that CloudFS was part of the F16 build 19:30:29 otherwise, I think we'd have to wait for the branching process to be finished 19:30:37 hrmmm 19:30:56 or maybe it was rawhide 19:31:31 kkeithley: maybe a mail would be best at this point to the cloud-sig list just asking if someone can clarify maybe. 19:31:38 okay 19:31:39 perhaps fwd the mail you go? 19:31:40 got 19:31:53 and ask whatever you need to know. 19:31:57 ;) sound good? 19:32:22 I think I found the email, it's a broken deps list, so maybe a non-issue 19:32:27 false alarm 19:32:34 oh. okay 19:32:36 it looks like cloudfs-0.7-5 is in f16 19:32:37 ;) 19:32:41 anything else then? ;) 19:32:44 tflink: excellent 19:32:47 http://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/buildinfo?buildID=256218 19:33:11 okay, good, thanks 19:33:12 waiting for push into updates (if you can call it that) 19:33:36 awesome. thanks, tflink, for the help there. 19:33:40 np 19:33:41 * rbergeron shall move on 19:33:43 what does that mean 19:33:48 oh, i'll hold 19:33:55 the push comment? 19:34:03 yeah 19:34:20 there isn't really an updates repo for pre-release 19:34:38 so it's okay then? 19:34:41 yet the build is tagged dist-f16-updates-candidate which usually means that it is about to get pushed to updates 19:34:50 yeah, I imagine this is an artifact of the branching process 19:35:06 okay. 19:35:08 okay, I'll sit tight and hope everything is okay then 19:35:08 * tflink doesn't pretend to be a koji tag expert 19:35:13 * rbergeron grins 19:35:16 #topic Other Business 19:35:28 clalance sent some updates on aeolus to the list, iirc. 19:35:34 anyone else have anything? 19:36:00 is ovirt node cloud-sig business ? 19:36:43 athmane: it's more spins-sig business, at the moment, or "what to do in lieu of lack of spins-sig movement" business 19:36:56 i know jsmith is looking into it at the moment. 19:36:57 ok 19:37:22 if it's not getting traction, we could perhaps take a look at it, but let's hold off and see where it gets in the next few days. 19:37:37 but technically it's spins-sig stuffs. 19:37:41 Gimme until early next week to try to get some consensus on what to do to move forward 19:38:12 jsmith: ok 19:38:14 anyone else? 19:38:35 rbergeron: just a reminder to post the minutes to the mailing list... 19:38:48 verdurin: i've done that diligently-ish for the past 2 weeks :D 19:38:49 * rbergeron grins 19:39:24 anyone else? 19:39:29 anyone? bueller? 19:39:30 okay. 19:39:38 * rbergeron waves and thanks everyone for coming 19:39:43 cheers, have a good weekend, folks 19:39:48 #endmeeting