15:01:36 <rdieter> #startmeeting kde-sig -- https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/SIGs/KDE/Meetings/2011-10-11 15:01:36 <zodbot> Meeting started Tue Oct 11 15:01:36 2011 UTC. The chair is rdieter. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 15:01:36 <zodbot> Useful Commands: #action #agreed #halp #info #idea #link #topic. 15:01:40 <rdieter> #meetingname kde-sig 15:01:40 <zodbot> The meeting name has been set to 'kde-sig' 15:01:45 <rdieter> #topic roll call 15:01:54 <rdieter> hi, who's all here today? 15:02:06 * jreznik is here :) 15:02:46 * than is here 15:03:20 * rnovacek is here 15:04:26 <rdieter> guess that's about it for today 15:04:34 <rdieter> #info rdieter jreznik than rnovacek present 15:04:40 <rdieter> #chair jreznik than rnovacek 15:04:40 <zodbot> Current chairs: jreznik rdieter rnovacek than 15:04:41 <jreznik> hi than, how was your PTO? 15:04:54 <than> jreznik: it's great :) 15:04:58 <Kevin_Kofler> Present. 15:05:32 <rdieter> #info Kevin_Kofler present 15:05:34 <rdieter> #chair Kevin_Kofler 15:05:34 <zodbot> Current chairs: Kevin_Kofler jreznik rdieter rnovacek than 15:05:42 <rdieter> #topic agenda 15:06:03 <rdieter> wiki has "4.7.2 status, and apper pkg review" for topics today, anything else? 15:06:51 <jreznik> nothing new here 15:07:16 <rdieter> ok, moving on... 15:07:20 <rdieter> #topic kde 4.7.2 status 15:07:49 <rdieter> kde 4.7.2 builds have been in f16 updates-testing for a few days now, all good so far. 15:08:29 <Kevin_Kofler> Good… → stable? :-) 15:08:35 <rdieter> I did a second round of builds adding kate-part dependencies here and there, as was highlighted by a recent bug filed against kile 15:09:06 <rdieter> it's stable-worthy as far as I'm concerned 15:09:18 <rdieter> any objection? 15:09:27 <Kevin_Kofler> BTW, we still need to fix Kile itself for the missing dep. 15:09:54 <rdieter> yeah, I didn't touch anything outside the core set of kde packages much yet. 15:10:23 <rdieter> (I did modify kdevplatform as an exception to that so far) 15:10:58 <rdieter> ok, lemme see if it'll let me submit this for stable yet. 15:11:18 <rdieter> (else, it requires only one more +1 karma) 15:11:44 <Kevin_Kofler> You can edit it, set the threshold to 1 and the requested target to stable in one go. 15:12:05 <rdieter> meh, I'll karma it myself (or get one of you to do it), if needed. :) 15:12:56 <rnovacek> I installed it yesterday on my f16 workstation at work, so I'll +1 15:12:58 <rdieter> ok, yeah, bodhi rejected the stable queue. we can karma it 15:13:45 <Kevin_Kofler> As I said, if you edit the threshold to 1, it will let you queue it to stable. (That's very silly, but it's how Bodhi works.) 15:13:47 <rdieter> one other thing I'd like to mention, I touched up kdebase-workspace yesterday, and made another couple of subpkgs, mostly so that a few more other apps/pkgs could be installed, without pulling in all of kdebase-workspace. 15:14:23 <rdieter> ksysguard, ksysguard-libs : kdevelop depends on libprocess* pieces from ksysguard-libs 15:14:41 <rnovacek> karma done 15:14:41 <rdieter> libkworkspace : used by kdm, kget, ktorrent 15:15:07 <rdieter> for < f17, kdebase-workspace Requires: ksysguard (for upgrade path) 15:16:16 <rdieter> i'll queue that new build for -testing after meeting 15:16:34 <Kevin_Kofler> OK 15:16:52 <rdieter> anything else wrt 4.7.2 ? 15:18:07 <rdieter> #info 4.7.2 looking good, queue'd now for stable updates 15:18:28 <rdieter> #info still need to add kate-part dependencies to a few other packages (including kile) 15:19:07 <rdieter> #info rdieter to submit updated kdebase-workspace for testing, that includes a couple more pkg splits 15:19:25 <rdieter> #topic apper package review: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=745160 15:19:37 <rdieter> .bug 745160 15:19:39 <zodbot> rdieter: Bug 745160 Review Request: apper - KDE interface for PackageKit - https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=745160 15:19:54 <rdieter> apper initial release was yesterday, here's my first draft at packaging it 15:20:18 <rdieter> Kevin_Kofler: will need your review for plasma-dep support (is that upstream yet or not?) 15:20:26 <rnovacek> I can do the review tomorrow 15:20:32 <Kevin_Kofler> It's upstream in Apper. 15:20:35 <rdieter> yay 15:20:39 <Kevin_Kofler> So the patch shouldn't be needed anymore. 15:21:07 <Kevin_Kofler> I only had to patch the old KPackageKit because the 0.6 branch was basically dead, so I had to backport the patch. 15:21:13 <rdieter> the only quirk I found in packaging it was an rpath oddity, but not sure if that was just my own franken-box being wierd 15:21:51 <rdieter> tried it out locally on my f15/kde47 box a bit, looks nice. 15:22:07 <than> Kevin_Kofler: is KPackageKit renamed to apper? 15:22:34 <rdieter> than: yes 15:23:09 <Kevin_Kofler> I wonder if we shouldn't just move libapper back to libdir directly, it would avoid having to muck with rpaths. 15:23:09 <than> rdieter: is there any reason why it's renamed? 15:23:41 <Kevin_Kofler> There's no good reason to have it in a private libdir, it's not like "libapper" is any more likely to conflict with other packages than the "apper" executable etc. 15:23:43 <rdieter> upstream (dannti) apparently didn't like kpackagekit I guess. I don't know much more than that. 15:24:52 <rdieter> Kevin_Kofler: true 15:25:12 <Kevin_Kofler> dantti said he moved the file to a private libdir because the Debian folks asked for it. 15:25:16 <Kevin_Kofler> But IMHO this makes no sense whatsoever. 15:25:41 * rdieter doesn't care either way, as long as it works. 15:26:27 <rdieter> now, personally, I'd like us to make an effort to get this in f16, but we need to do some serious testing to make that happen 15:26:42 <Kevin_Kofler> Yeah. 15:26:46 <Kevin_Kofler> It's quite late for F16. :-( 15:26:57 <Kevin_Kofler> But shipping F16 with the old KPK 0.6 doesn't sound that great an idea to me either. 15:27:23 <rdieter> agreed, seems like a lesser of 2 evils to me 15:27:43 <rdieter> but let's get it reviewed and tested a bit, and make a better decision then 15:28:01 <than> rdieter: +1 15:28:23 <than> rdieter: we should upload it to kde-redhat for testing 15:29:20 <jreznik> +1 15:29:38 <Kevin_Kofler> +1 to both. 15:29:45 <rdieter> I'll throw what I have in f15 kde-unstable after meeting 15:30:32 <Kevin_Kofler> Now if only Lennart worked the same way… Shipping F16 with an outdated PulseAudio sucks… :-( 15:30:33 <rdieter> #info will get apper reviewed and tested asap, and make an effort to squeeze this into f16 15:31:26 <rdieter> anything else on apper? 15:32:28 <rdieter> ok, moving on... 15:32:33 <rdieter> #topic open discussion 15:32:43 <rdieter> open floor, for anything else of interested today. 15:32:55 <rdieter> all hail beefy miracle (nuf said) 15:33:02 <Kevin_Kofler> Has anybody looked at my kdelibs3 security patches yet? 15:33:22 <than> Kevin_Kofler: url? 15:33:31 <rdieter> I think from #fedora-kde earlier, jreznik/ltinkl were going to over the next day or 2. 15:34:26 <Kevin_Kofler> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=743074 15:34:31 <jreznik> rdieter: hope ltinkl took a look, I'm quite busy these days :((( 15:34:46 <rdieter> jreznik: anything we/I can help with? 15:35:36 <than> Kevin_Kofler: i will take a look at the patches 15:36:17 <than> Kevin_Kofler: is it affected in all kdelibs version? 15:36:40 <Kevin_Kofler> AFAICT, yes. 15:36:51 <rdieter> just an informal survey, which kde-sig'ers here have a f16 install for testing (vm or otherwise)? 15:37:06 <Kevin_Kofler> Except latest 4.7 branch which is patched, not sure if the fix is already in 4.7.2 or only 4.7.3. 15:37:18 <than> Kevin_Kofler: i will check 15:37:23 <Kevin_Kofler> Or actually, it is in 4.7.2 already. 15:37:25 <rnovacek> rdieter: I installed yesterday on bare hardware 15:37:32 * rdieter has f16 on vm 15:37:36 <Kevin_Kofler> We had it in F16/Rawhide and dropped it in 4.7.2 because it's already fixed. 15:37:42 <Kevin_Kofler> But it can't hurt to double-check. 15:38:00 <Kevin_Kofler> We still need to issue updates for F14 and F15 though, using the 4.6 versions upstream provided. 15:38:15 <Kevin_Kofler> Upstream didn't provide anything for 3.x, so I did the patches there. 15:38:29 * rdieter can do the f14/f15 kdelibs builds 15:39:11 * than even installed f16 beta on his testing machine 15:39:31 * than is unhappy with kmail2 15:40:09 <rdieter> hrm, no CVE bug against kdelibs? 15:40:40 <jreznik> than: /me is unhappy too - for big mailboxes... using zimbra and it's far from optimal user experience 15:40:54 <Kevin_Kofler> rdieter: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=743056 15:40:57 <than> rdieter: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=743074 15:41:11 <Kevin_Kofler> than: That's the general tracker. 15:41:25 <Kevin_Kofler> The kdelibs [fedora-all] bug is already closed, but shouldn't be, because not all releases are fixed. I'm reopening it. 15:41:59 <rdieter> ah, that's why I didn't find it 15:42:04 <rdieter> thanks 15:46:09 <rdieter> anything else? 15:46:20 <rdieter> otherwise, I'll close the meeting in 2 min 15:48:10 <jreznik> nothing from me, I'll try to push ltinkl to take a closer look 15:48:34 <zodbot> Announcement from my owner (jsmith): Fedora Board public IRC meeting in approximately 15 minutes in #fedora-board-meeting 15:48:45 <rdieter> ok, thanks everyone. 15:48:47 <rdieter> #endmeeting