03:58:28 <tuanta> #startmeeting 03:58:28 <zodbot> Meeting started Sat Nov 26 03:58:28 2011 UTC. The chair is tuanta. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 03:58:28 <zodbot> Useful Commands: #action #agreed #halp #info #idea #link #topic. 03:58:41 <tuanta> #meetingname APAC 03:58:41 <zodbot> The meeting name has been set to 'apac' 03:58:54 <tuanta> #link http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Meeting:APAC_Ambassadors_2011-11-26#Agenda 03:59:11 <dramsey> .fas dramsey 03:59:12 <zodbot> dramsey: dramsey 'David Ramsey' <diamond_ramsey@hotmail.com> 03:59:12 <tuanta> #topic Ambassador Pinging 03:59:13 <dramsey> My name is dramsey, from Japan and I use Fedora 16 from a DVD and Fedora 16 from an .ISO. 03:59:16 <Suresh> .fas suresht 03:59:17 <zodbot> Suresh: suresht 'Sureshkumar Packiyarajah' <sureshp8@gmail.com> 03:59:17 <tuanta> .fas tuanta 03:59:20 <zodbot> tuanta: tuanta 'Truong Anh Tuan' <tuanta@iwayvietnam.com> 03:59:27 <maktrix> .fas maktrix 03:59:28 <zodbot> maktrix: mak 'Mahay Alam Khan' <mahayalamkhan@gmail.com> 03:59:32 <udinnet> .fasinfo udinnet 03:59:36 <zodbot> udinnet: User: udinnet, Name: Uditha Bandara Wijerathna, email: udithabnd@gmail.com, Creation: 2011-08-19, IRC Nick: udinnet, Timezone: Asia/Jayapura, Locale: en, Extension: 5157804, GPG key ID: 76D7B582, Status: active 03:59:39 <tuanta> hi everyone, please take a look at the meeting agenda 03:59:40 <azneita> .fas azneita 03:59:40 <zodbot> udinnet: Unapproved Groups: ambassadors marketing 03:59:44 <mbuf> .fas mbuf 03:59:44 <zodbot> udinnet: Approved Groups: freemedia cla_fpca cla_done 03:59:48 <zodbot> azneita: dona 'dona marie grace' <dona@azneita.org> - azneita '' <herson@azneita.org> 03:59:52 <tuanta> and add more topics if required 03:59:52 <zodbot> mbuf: shakthimaan 'Shakthi Kannan' <shakthimaan@gmail.com> 04:00:15 <bckurera> .fas bckurera 04:00:16 <zodbot> bckurera: bckurera 'Buddhika Kurera' <bckurera@gmail.com> 04:00:18 <magie> .fas magie 04:00:20 <zodbot> magie: magi 'Rafal Magiera' <R.K.Magiera@wsisiz.edu.pl> - geatz87 'Bogusław Magiera' <geatz87@tlen.pl> - magie 'Magie Antonio' <magie@bluepoint.com.ph> 04:00:31 <born2linux> .fas engels 04:00:34 <zodbot> born2linux: engels 'Engels Antonio' <engels@bluepoint.com.ph> 04:00:39 <bckurera> Buddhika Kurera from Sri Lanka 04:00:40 <tuanta> #chair dramsey Suresh maktrix udinnet azneita mbuf bckurera magie born2linux 04:00:40 <zodbot> Current chairs: Suresh azneita bckurera born2linux dramsey magie maktrix mbuf tuanta udinnet 04:00:58 <tuanta> ten ppl. great!! 04:01:03 <dramsey> What a great turnout of people! :D 04:01:03 <Suresh> wow 04:01:06 <udinnet> Wow! I think today we need more than a hour! 04:01:09 <udinnet> :D 04:01:12 <tuanta> I am Tuan, from Vietnam 04:01:18 <tuanta> using Fedora 16 04:01:34 <udinnet> Here still F15 04:01:40 <Suresh> Suresh from Srilanka i use f 16 from DVD 04:01:57 <EvilBob> I'm just here to spectate, I'm running for a seat on the board. I figure I should get more in touch with what you guys have going on. 04:02:24 <tuanta> should we go to the main topics? 04:02:30 <Suresh> tuanta: add EvilBob to chair :) 04:02:31 <maktrix> Mahay Alam Khan aka Mak from Bangladesh using F15 in laptop (custom installer given by jared ;)) 04:02:34 <bckurera> It is great EvilBob KIT 04:02:38 <tuanta> #topic News from FAmSCo 04:02:40 <EvilBob> Not needed Suresh 04:02:52 <Suresh> ok 04:03:56 <tuanta> #chair EvilBob 04:03:56 <zodbot> Current chairs: EvilBob Suresh azneita bckurera born2linux dramsey magie maktrix mbuf tuanta udinnet 04:04:20 <tuanta> any news from FAmSCo? 04:04:33 <Suresh> kaio ? 04:04:48 <azneita> kaio seems to be not in room 04:04:57 <udinnet> yeah 04:04:58 <Suresh> not yet come 04:05:00 <bckurera> There is a IRC Public meeting today 1300 UTC 04:05:12 <dramsey> any news? 04:05:15 <tuanta> yes, that's a cool new 04:05:18 <bckurera> #info There is a FAmSCo IRC Public meeting today 1300 UTC 04:05:19 <tuanta> #link http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/ambassadors/2011-November/018514.html 04:05:31 <dramsey> +1 04:05:52 <udinnet> +1 04:06:01 <maktrix> +1 04:06:16 <udinnet> Any other news ? 04:06:20 <bckurera> azneita and born2linux great to see you all frm Ph :) 04:06:35 <azneita> also magie :) 04:06:42 <born2linux> likewise bckurera :) 04:06:47 <magie> +1 :D 04:06:50 <bckurera> ahh magie too ;) 04:07:09 * azneita is looking for aolsystems ;) 04:07:39 <magie> paging aolsystems... 04:07:50 <udinnet> If no any other news, lets move then ;) 04:08:39 <dramsey> Yup, next topic. 04:08:41 <maktrix> will be back in 5 minutes. (as you know it's my office time ;) just started 04:08:49 <bckurera> will move 04:09:00 <bckurera> there is one 04:09:12 <bckurera> about next FUD con :) 04:09:24 <udinnet> ok 04:09:26 <udinnet> :) 04:09:30 <bckurera> thats all 04:09:50 <dramsey> +1 04:09:50 <bckurera> #topic Review *ACTION* items from the last meeting 04:10:23 * Suresh is at office, may slow response 04:10:39 <udinnet> I have an pending action from old meetings 04:10:52 <udinnet> We have the date confirmed for the event 04:10:58 <udinnet> It is 8th 04:11:01 <udinnet> of Dec 04:11:02 <bckurera> pls go udinnet 04:11:02 <udinnet> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_Seminar_Anuradhapura_2011 04:11:09 <Suresh> +1 udinnet 04:11:14 <udinnet> I'm working with bckurera 04:11:19 <udinnet> and Suresh too 04:11:45 <dramsey> +1 04:12:07 <udinnet> We're currently working on the event agenda. 04:12:28 <tuanta> thanks bckurera for taking the chair. my network connection is too bad today 04:12:35 <udinnet> Event poster is prepared by bckurera 04:12:47 <udinnet> Nice poster btw :) 04:12:54 <bckurera> no worries tuanta will do it 04:13:09 <dramsey> +1 04:13:23 <udinnet> bckurera any info? 04:13:32 <bckurera> Yup poster was designed and udinnet to print some banners too 04:13:36 <Suresh> udinnet: well info :) 04:13:37 <bckurera> actually two banners 04:13:49 <bckurera> udinnet is working so hard for this event 04:13:53 <udinnet> yeah 04:13:55 <udinnet> :D 04:13:58 <bckurera> estimated participants are 200 04:14:14 <tuanta> +1 bckurera 04:14:21 <bckurera> actually this is the first F16 large event in Sri Lanka 04:14:22 <udinnet> University students 04:14:31 <bckurera> further we are producing some media as well 04:14:34 * azneita takes note of udinnet's effort :) 04:14:54 <bckurera> first we think of going with DVDs but later we switch to Live CDs 04:14:57 <tuanta> #topic APAC events 04:15:11 <tuanta> we are in this topic, actually 04:15:24 <udinnet> yeah 04:15:29 <udinnet> thank tuanta 04:15:54 <udinnet> Then we thought about printing live media 04:15:58 <udinnet> CDs 04:16:13 <udinnet> it is more useful than DVDs 04:16:25 <tuanta> I have just been back from MozCamp in KL. We had a really good meetup with Fedorians there. 04:16:42 <dramsey> udinnet have many CDs for one Fedora User? 04:16:49 <azneita> nice pics tuanta 04:16:55 <tuanta> in general, we decided to support KL for next year FUDCon APAC 04:17:00 <Suresh> udinnet: get some feedback from students regarding 32 bit or 64 bit before producing 04:17:09 <azneita> i saw you with snavin, mak and izhar 04:17:17 <mbuf> there is a proposed Fedora Installfest on December 3, 2011 at Foresight Institute in Pune, India; still working out the schedule for the event 04:17:24 <udinnet> Suresh: what about your availability in 8th? 04:17:42 <tuanta> +1 mbuf 04:17:47 <Suresh> udinnet: let me check my time farame 04:17:48 <tuanta> do you need any support? 04:18:10 <Suresh> azneita: u mean fedora meetup at malaysia 04:18:33 <azneita> during mozcamp then meetup 04:18:37 <Suresh> udinnet: i will get back to you soon 04:18:47 <udinnet> Suresh: sure 04:18:51 <udinnet> :) 04:19:02 <Suresh> + azneita 04:19:03 <mbuf> tuanta, your question is for me? 04:19:06 <udinnet> bckurera, are you there? 04:19:07 <Suresh> thanks 04:19:46 <bckurera> udinnet? 04:19:56 <tuanta> yes, mbuf, do you need any more support for your upcoming event? 04:20:00 <bckurera> Is there any info or will move next> 04:20:10 <udinnet> yup 04:20:14 <Suresh> #info Fedora Installfest on December 3, 2011 at Foresight Institute in Pune, India 04:20:15 <mbuf> tuanta, not required for now; we should be able to manage; thanks! 04:20:37 <udinnet> shall we post that event also as info? 04:20:48 <bckurera> pls udinnet go for it 04:20:54 <bckurera> it is your event :D 04:20:57 <tuanta> welcome back, maktrix :) 04:21:10 <Suresh> #info srilanka fedora event https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_Seminar_Anuradhapura_2011 04:21:16 <maktrix> tuanta: thanks 04:21:26 <udinnet> #info Fedora Introduction Event date confirmed. 8th December 2011 04:21:34 <bckurera> #link https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_Seminar_Anuradhapura_2011 04:22:09 <bckurera> #topic Status of F16 Release Parties 04:22:10 <tuanta> great, mbuf. good luck to all of us :) 04:22:16 <mbuf> tuanta, thanks 04:22:20 <tuanta> thanks bckurera 04:22:26 <maktrix> Suresh: bckurera Fedora Seminar seems to be an innovative one :) congrats 04:22:29 <bckurera> +1 04:22:40 <udinnet> Thanks Suresh 04:22:47 <udinnet> ;) 04:22:51 <dramsey> +1 04:22:58 <tuanta> I got a F16 RP in Hanoi; report already 04:23:14 <tuanta> #link https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Release_Party_F16_Hanoi 04:23:17 <Suresh> yes during last meeting tuanta :) 04:23:27 <maktrix> tuanta: yes, I have read that. nice repot 04:23:42 <tuanta> we are planning for the other in Hue, tomorrow 04:23:45 <tuanta> #link https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Release_Party_F16_Hue 04:23:53 <bckurera> tuanta I have read this vn.fco.o 04:23:55 <dramsey> Tuan +1 04:24:10 <udinnet> Suresh: any release party in SLITT? 04:24:12 <tuanta> any others? 04:24:24 <tuanta> please update them all to wiki 04:24:43 <azneita> #link http://ph.fedoracommunity.org/index.php?entry=20111112231250 04:24:46 <tuanta> #link https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/F16_release_events 04:24:47 <bckurera> Once the media production is finished will heading to RP in SL 04:24:47 <Suresh> udinnet: not sure right now,may be soon :) 04:24:55 <azneita> #link https://blog.azneita.org/2011/11/fedora-16-release-party/ 04:25:02 <magie> http://bluepoint.com.ph/index.php?entry=20111112231247&show=album 04:25:07 <udinnet> Suresh: Cool 04:25:14 <tuanta> cool, azneita 04:25:24 <tuanta> and magie :) 04:25:25 <udinnet> bckurera, What about moratuwa uni? 04:25:38 <udinnet> are they confirmed? 04:25:45 <azneita> tuanta, magie organized that event 04:25:49 <Suresh> +1 az 04:25:56 <Suresh> +1 azneita 04:25:57 <bckurera> They will do it after the xam udinnet. 04:25:57 <udinnet> +1 04:26:00 <maktrix> azneita: you did just after getting back from FudCon pune :) 04:26:01 <bckurera> waiting for media 04:26:04 <dramsey> +1 for adding F16 release events to the https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/F16_release_events wiki 04:26:38 <azneita> maktrix, that's pune's banner http://bluepoint.com.ph/album.php?entry=20111112231247&show=IMG_0858.JPG 04:26:42 <tuanta> those all three links are for one release party, right? 04:26:45 <bckurera> #info please add your Release Parties to #link https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/F16_release_events 04:26:50 <azneita> tuanta, right 04:26:56 <tuanta> azneita and magie 04:26:56 <dramsey> azneita +1 04:26:57 <born2linux> yes tuanta 04:27:05 <Suresh> azneita: cool fedora mug :) 04:27:08 <maktrix> azneita: ah, :) i can see that 04:27:29 <azneita> maktrix, KageSenshi ahs the other one 04:27:41 <magie> thanks suresh ;) 04:27:47 <bckurera> azneita I really like the Fedora mug coool 04:27:59 <maktrix> so, you two took them away all the way from Pune :) good for you. 04:28:27 <bckurera> hikz is it a info maktrix ;) 04:28:28 <born2linux> thanks magie for assembling the mugs just a few minutes before the release party :) 04:28:42 <maktrix> bckurera: nop 04:28:55 <azneita> born2linux, +1 i can remember :) 04:29:26 <maktrix> magie: please share the procedure for producing Fedora mug, or you can put in the wiki 04:29:51 <tuanta> +1 Philippinos 04:29:52 <azneita> magie, please :) 04:29:57 <udinnet> +1 04:30:00 <dramsey> +1 Fedora APAC 04:30:02 <magie> ok 04:30:13 <bckurera> maktrix I think it is easy, get to paint shop and give them the art design and they will print it for you :) 04:30:30 <dramsey> What was cost to make Fedora mug? 04:30:31 <azneita> bckurera, there's a faster way :) 04:30:36 <tuanta> next topic then? 04:30:46 <maktrix> bckurera: eventhoug let things be documented for all 04:30:48 <dramsey> Move forward Tuan 04:30:51 <magie> very low cost 04:30:55 <magie> will post on wiki 04:30:59 <dramsey> +1 magie 04:31:01 <udinnet> sure 04:31:07 <tuanta> #topic APAC plans for 2012 (Suresh) 04:31:07 <maktrix> +1 04:31:09 <udinnet> +1 tuanta 04:31:25 <tuanta> Suresh, your turn. 04:31:28 <udinnet> Suresh's idea :) 04:31:29 <Suresh> ok thanks tuanta 04:31:46 <bckurera> +1 04:31:48 <maktrix> #action magie will put the process on the wiki on how to produce low cost fedora mug for yoru events 04:31:57 <Suresh> first one :There will be two fedora release(f17 and f18) so we have to schedule two major events for the particular release. 04:32:23 <dramsey> Yo LMartinez 04:32:25 <maktrix> Suresh: +1 04:32:27 <LMartinez> Hi, sorry for being late. Timezones. :) 04:32:30 <dramsey> +1 Suresh 04:32:35 <Suresh> second will be like :Year end Ambassadors report. 04:32:40 <maktrix> LMartinez: welcome 04:32:44 <udinnet> hello LMartinez 04:33:16 <udinnet> Suresh +1 04:33:25 <bckurera> we miss a asmartgoat; welcome LMartinez 04:33:26 <Suresh> i assume you all have fedorapeople space i sit? 04:33:31 <tuanta> Suresh, I love the last one: "Pinging inactive ambassadors.". It's also in my mind. 04:33:44 <tuanta> #chair LMartinez 04:33:44 <zodbot> Current chairs: EvilBob LMartinez Suresh azneita bckurera born2linux dramsey magie maktrix mbuf tuanta udinnet 04:33:49 <bckurera> Suresh and Tuanta 04:34:03 <bckurera> I ping all the FAms in APAC in last August 04:34:17 <bckurera> to get to know the right time for APAC special meetings 04:34:19 <Suresh> and also what about your thinking about this :announcing open source computation among the university students level and select first place from every region and let them participate for next APAC FUDCon 2012. 04:34:26 <bckurera> there is less response :( 04:34:28 <maktrix> bckurera: pinging once again for year end report won't hurt 'em :) 04:34:33 <tuanta> bckurera, we should do that regularly 04:34:47 <bckurera> It is good to try it again and again 04:34:49 <tuanta> that should be the main task in all plans, I think 04:35:01 <udinnet> Suresh: Good idea 04:35:15 <bckurera> So that will help us a lot in events and also meeting participation as well 04:35:21 <Suresh> i am going to create wiki about this and let annouce to next apac meeting 04:35:28 <udinnet> +1 bckurera 04:35:31 <tuanta> +4 Suresh 04:35:38 <maktrix> +1 Suresh 04:35:43 <bckurera> specially I like the Year end report; like annual report. Suresh 04:35:46 <Suresh> because it's just DRAFT 04:35:47 <dramsey> Fantastic 04:36:10 <Suresh> so we have to work hard to achive these things 04:36:18 <udinnet> APAC is improving, Nice to see that :D 04:36:25 <kaio_tab> Hi 04:36:36 <dramsey> Yo kaio_tab KAIO! 04:36:39 <udinnet> hi kaio 04:36:39 <tuanta> #chair kaio_tab 04:36:39 <zodbot> Current chairs: EvilBob LMartinez Suresh azneita bckurera born2linux dramsey kaio_tab magie maktrix mbuf tuanta udinnet 04:36:41 <udinnet> :) 04:36:48 <maktrix> udinnet: +1 the FudCon pune boosted APAC a lot 04:37:00 <tuanta> we will back to the topic, News from FAmSCo later 04:37:10 <kaio_tab> K :) 04:37:15 <udinnet> maktrix: yeah ;) 04:37:35 <LMartinez> Hi Kaio 04:37:39 <udinnet> kaio_tab: we missed you 04:37:41 <udinnet> :) 04:37:57 <Suresh> so tuanta that's all from me,once i created wiki with all info then let introduce to public :) 04:38:02 <tuanta> kaio_tab and everyone, #link http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Meeting:APAC_Ambassadors_2011-11-26#Agenda 04:38:19 <tuanta> we are in the topic operated by Suresh 04:38:32 <tuanta> +1 Suresh 04:38:59 <Suresh> are you all ok with APAC plans for 2012? 04:39:07 <tuanta> we will work out on that wiki 04:39:10 <udinnet> We missed a topic in APAC Events 04:39:19 <udinnet> Next FUDCon? 04:39:19 <bckurera> please go for it suresh +1 04:39:20 <dramsey> Suresh, sounds good to me. I look forward to your wiki 04:39:28 <tuanta> yes, udinnet 04:39:37 <Suresh> sure dramsey :) 04:39:38 <maktrix> Suresh: where is the plan written :) l 04:39:52 <tuanta> I told that I support KL, udinnet 04:40:09 <udinnet> ok tuanta 04:40:10 <tuanta> maybe Tokyo, why not, dramsey? 04:40:17 <udinnet> Yeah :) 04:40:20 <Suresh> maktrix: not yet written to wiki,right now just DRAFT idea 04:40:39 <dramsey> Tuanta - Tuan was in the proposal earlier. 04:40:40 <udinnet> We'll sort out it soon 04:40:42 <maktrix> Suresh: +1 04:40:42 <bckurera> May be Manila why not azneita? magie? bor2linux? aolsystems? 04:40:42 <bckurera> :) 04:40:48 <Suresh> hi kaio_tab 04:40:54 <udinnet> yeah azneita? 04:41:06 <tuanta> #action Suresh creates a wiki page for APAC Plans 2012 04:41:07 <bckurera> shall we move then almost 40 mins past :) 04:41:19 <Suresh> +1 tuanta 04:41:24 <tuanta> +1 bckurera 04:41:25 <udinnet> bckurera, sure go on 04:41:28 <maktrix> +1 04:41:43 <tuanta> we can arrange for upcoming years, one by one :) 04:42:13 <tuanta> dramsey, can you share that link here? 04:42:38 <dramsey> Was discussed at Red Hat in person 04:42:54 <dramsey> The timeframe for the FUDcon was not to advantage. 04:42:57 <Suresh> +1 dramsey 04:42:58 <tuanta> so, that's time to move forward 04:43:02 <tuanta> #topic Red Hat information training for Ambassadors (dramsey) 04:43:19 <Suresh> dramsey: our time :) 04:43:29 <Suresh> any new news? 04:43:32 <dramsey> My question is - Who is interested in getting certified? If so, then what Red Hat Certification? 04:43:49 * tuanta interested 04:44:02 <bckurera> udinnet? suresh? 04:44:02 <dramsey> I have read e-mails from others on the certification / exam. 04:44:05 * LMartinez is also interested 04:44:12 <Suresh> +1 from Suresh 04:44:21 <udinnet> I really like to get RHCSA crt. I worked in it few moths. 04:44:25 <maktrix> +1 from me too 04:44:28 <dramsey> If you are interested, then what Red Hat Certification? 04:44:30 <Suresh> dramsey: it was happened NA 04:44:35 <dramsey> +1 Suresh 04:44:35 <Suresh> is it? 04:44:37 <LMartinez> RHCSA would be the choice for me 04:44:53 <dramsey> +1 udinnet LMartinez. 04:45:08 <maktrix> RHCE is good for me to start with 04:45:17 <dramsey> +1 maktrix 04:45:20 <udinnet> But we have to travel india to do the exams 04:45:22 <udinnet> :( 04:45:22 <born2linux> rhca for me if possible 04:45:30 <dramsey> +1 born2linux 04:45:39 <dramsey> Tuan - tuanta which certification? 04:45:50 <dramsey> In order to get the support, then we need to have the "I am interested in exam" 04:45:57 <LMartinez> Sidenote: afaik is more advanced than RHCSA, and i believe it requires RHCSA to complete. 04:45:58 <maktrix> RHCSA also sounds good if resources are provided 04:46:19 <dramsey> Very true LMartinez. ;) 04:46:25 <udinnet> +1 04:46:26 <tuanta> dramsey, I don't know. maybe starter one 04:46:29 <Suresh> yes LMartinez 04:46:32 <dramsey> +1 tuanta 04:46:35 <LMartinez> afaik RHCE is* 04:46:52 <udinnet> +1 LM 04:46:56 <bckurera> I am neutral to techi things :) soory 04:47:04 <azneita> i want one too but i want fudcon in ph more :) 04:47:07 <udinnet> you should do RHCSA first 04:47:12 <born2linux> +1 LMartinez 04:47:20 <tuanta> +1 azneita 04:47:29 <magie> +1 04:47:35 <Suresh> dramsey: has much more experence about it he will help us to getting RH exams :) 04:47:48 <udinnet> Yo hanthana! 04:47:51 <maktrix> azneita: KageSenshi will be your strong compititor for the bidding ;) 04:47:53 <dramsey> Very good everyone. That is it from me. To develop you is my thought 04:47:55 <Suresh> hi hanthana (Navin) 04:48:01 <dramsey> Hi Hanthana. 04:48:04 <udinnet> snavin is here :) 04:48:13 <udinnet> hello hanthana 04:48:14 <hanthana> hi guys! 04:48:18 <dramsey> Tuan - tuanta that is all from me. 04:48:19 <magie> hello 04:48:21 <maktrix> hanthana: hello 04:48:35 <dramsey> Review the Study URLs 04:48:39 <tuanta> dramsey, any action, info, etc.? 04:48:45 <dramsey> #info Review the Study URLs 04:48:45 <Suresh> +1 dramsey 04:48:51 <azneita> hey danishka 04:48:58 <LMartinez> hi hanthana (I'll be right back, I'm just reading though what i missed in this meeting, http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2011-11-26/apac.2011-11-26-03.58.log.txt ) 04:49:04 <tuanta> #chair hanthana 04:49:04 <zodbot> Current chairs: EvilBob LMartinez Suresh azneita bckurera born2linux dramsey hanthana kaio_tab magie maktrix mbuf tuanta udinnet 04:49:11 <Suresh> very useful dramsey 04:49:23 <dramsey> upon interest on the Red Hat certification then we may move forward with our request 04:49:27 <dramsey> That is it from me. 04:49:34 <dramsey> Thank you, Suresh 04:49:36 <Suresh> +1 dramsey 04:49:40 <udinnet> +1 04:50:01 <tuanta> +1 LMartinez 04:50:03 <azneita> thanks dramsey 04:50:14 <udinnet> +1 azneita 04:50:19 <magie> +1 04:50:23 <bckurera> will move yes :) 04:50:30 <maktrix> dramsey: try putting a bit accelaration; you been persuading for long 04:50:33 <tuanta> dramsey, should we have a dedicated wiki page for this topic? 04:50:48 <maktrix> tuanta: +1 04:50:54 <bckurera> tuanta that looks great +1 04:50:59 <udinnet> tuanta: I think it'll be good 04:51:17 <born2linux> +1 udinnet 04:51:22 <maktrix> then put it within an action item 04:51:33 <dramsey> +1 tuan - tuanta 04:51:35 <kaio_tab> Dramsey talked to jsmith yet? 04:51:39 <dramsey> Great ideas maktrix 04:51:50 <tuanta> #action dramsey create a wiki page for Red Hat information training for Ambassadors 04:51:51 <dramsey> kaio - kaio_tab unfortunately no 04:52:09 <kaio_tab> You may start from him. :) 04:52:24 <dramsey> How about "anyone" create the wiki page if you are interested then you may do so. The power is yours. 04:52:26 <Suresh> +1 dramsey create a wiki page for Red Hat information training for Ambassadors ;) 04:52:34 <maktrix> kaio_tab: dramsey it's a good idea to talk with jsmith ASAP 04:52:36 <tuanta> beside dramsey, the initiator, that should be also a good voice from FAmSCo, kaio_tab 04:52:48 <dramsey> kaio - kaio_tab sounds wonderful, do you think anyone could do? 04:53:14 <bckurera> sounds like an action item 04:53:22 <tuanta> #idea dramsey should talk with jsmith about Red Hat information training for Ambassadors 04:53:23 <dramsey> +1 Tuan - tuanta. :) maktrix, someone should who has time. 04:53:46 <maktrix> dramsey: better write to him as a starter 04:54:05 <bckurera> dramsey may be the FAmSCo public meeting today is a good place 04:54:18 <udinnet> +1 bckurera 04:54:19 <dramsey> Once again "how about anyone" 04:54:19 <tuanta> +1 bckurera 04:54:19 <maktrix> then we can invite him for a spcial IRC meeting with APAC 04:54:29 <born2linux> +1 great idea 04:54:31 <tuanta> +1 maktrix 04:54:34 <magie> +1 04:54:42 <dramsey> +1 great idea. You all may do this indeed. 04:54:56 <udinnet> tuanta: I'll do it. 04:54:57 * Suresh is thinking like sending letter with this meeting log 04:54:59 <tuanta> #idea invite jsmith to APAC meeting to talk with him 04:55:17 <tuanta> Suresh, I am sure that he will read this log 04:55:28 <Suresh> +1 tuanta 04:55:39 <dramsey> +1 Tuan - tuanta 04:55:39 <maktrix> he doews alwasy read regional meeting logs 04:55:44 <tuanta> one more notification is also good, however 04:55:54 <maktrix> +1 tuanta 04:56:17 <bckurera> another action item tuanta 04:56:21 <tuanta> all ideas, actions have been written down? 04:56:25 <tuanta> next topic then? 04:56:48 <tuanta> #topic Classroom (bckurera) 04:57:10 <bckurera> tuanta pls 04:57:35 <bckurera> ohh sorry this topic is kept aside till there is any info available 04:58:05 <bckurera> further I saw FransiscoD is trying to have a classroom on vi editor 04:58:10 <tuanta> then next? 04:58:14 <bckurera> will help him 04:58:15 <tuanta> #topic APAC Events and Meeting tracker(bckurera) 04:58:46 <bckurera> To increase the participation I think of having a meeting tracker 04:58:59 * Suresh is look forwarding FransiscoD VIM classroom session :) 04:58:59 <maktrix> +1 04:59:04 <bckurera> So there is a section at the meeting page to add participants as well 04:59:09 <udinnet> +1 04:59:17 <bckurera> so that we can keep in touch with them easily 04:59:17 * mbuf needs to leave now; will catch up later; 04:59:30 <Suresh> see you mbuf 04:59:31 <LMartinez> bye mbuf 04:59:43 <tuanta> bye mbuf 04:59:44 <dramsey> bye mbuf 04:59:55 <bckurera> see you again mbuf 05:00:03 <udinnet> bye mbuf 05:00:05 <maktrix> bye kannan 05:00:13 <bckurera> thats it 05:00:26 <mbuf> Suresh, LMartinez tuanta dramsey bckurera udinnet maktrix later! 05:00:44 <bckurera> next pls 05:01:13 <tuanta> bckurera, what is the different between your idea and https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/Meetings#Next_Meeting? 05:01:20 <dramsey> Do we need to do News & Ideas and/or FAmSco news? 05:01:30 <tuanta> +1 dramsey 05:01:39 <bckurera> It is good to have two sections 05:01:45 <bckurera> as Suresh noted 05:01:57 <bckurera> we can have news from FAmSCo and news from APAC FAms 05:02:03 <bckurera> two topics 05:02:06 <hanthana> yes, new ideas: "how to work with rest of ambassadors in your region" 05:02:29 <bckurera> FAmSCo is in general whole FAm group 05:02:33 <bckurera> hanthana +1 05:02:47 <hanthana> speacially to Sri Lankan Ambassadors 05:02:48 <hanthana> :P 05:02:57 <dramsey> +1 Tuan - tuanta and Hanthana Very true bckurera 05:03:09 <hanthana> s/speacially/specially 05:03:09 <tuanta> next then? 05:03:27 <udinnet> go on 05:03:33 <tuanta> #topic News from FAmSCo 05:03:39 <bckurera> hanthana +1 05:03:43 <tuanta> kaio_tab, your turn 05:03:45 <udinnet> XD 05:03:48 <maktrix> hanthana: +1 05:04:06 <udinnet> +1 hanthana 05:04:17 <kaio_tab> Not much updates, mos 05:04:24 <tuanta> also, a news: the current FAmSCo period has been almost ended 05:04:30 <tuanta> please go voting 05:04:31 <kaio_tab> Mostly following up on tickets. 05:04:48 <dramsey> IRC at 13:00 UTC? 05:05:03 <dramsey> Good luck to FAmSCo election people and please vote 05:05:04 <dramsey> :D 05:05:04 <kaio_tab> Yes 05:05:12 <maktrix> kaio_tab: thanks for mentioning, :P I have an upaid ticket ;) 05:05:24 <Suresh> go for it https://admin.fedoraproject.org/voting 05:05:24 <tuanta> #link http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/ambassadors/2011-November/018496.html 05:05:25 <maktrix> dramsey: +1 05:05:40 <dramsey> Who has "unpaid" tickets? 05:05:41 * hanthana want to put some thing to the log before meeting end 05:06:27 <tuanta> then, here is the last one: 05:06:31 <tuanta> #topic Open Floor 05:06:34 <Suresh> open floor is waiting for you hanthana 05:06:38 <hanthana> i think ambassadors should work with other ambassadors in his/her region in a flexible manner. I feel like some of them totally working like an competition. It is a kind of shame that known people not willing to settle regional issues but they point non-Ambassadors to solve it. This was recently happen when I was requesting to making some changes to Fedora event in Anuradhapura, Sri Lanka. 05:06:45 <tuanta> today is a really great meeting, I see 05:07:04 <tuanta> a lot of great ppl with a lot of great ideas 05:07:20 <tuanta> +1 hanthana 05:07:27 * azneita nods 05:07:34 <maktrix> +1 hanthana 05:07:43 <dramsey> hanthana +1 05:07:44 <hanthana> i was really disappointed local ambassadors not willing to manage it 05:08:01 <dramsey> problems do occur in life... 05:08:07 * Suresh is nods 05:08:08 <dramsey> We need to help each other resolve 05:08:15 <hanthana> just mentioning SORRY! we can't its up to his decision... etc etc 05:08:21 <Suresh> +1 dramsey very true ;) 05:08:24 <LMartinez> We are all here for one cause, Software. 05:08:41 <kaio_tab> Maktrix, any famsco approved that yet? 05:08:43 <azneita> human engineering is harder that software engineering 05:08:44 <udinnet> +1 dramsey 05:08:54 <kaio_tab> Or u just waiting for payment? 05:09:11 <born2linux> +1 azneita 05:09:12 <udinnet> azneita: very true 05:09:15 <magie> +1 05:09:16 <maktrix> kaio_tab: it was my flight ticket reimbursment 05:09:17 <tuanta> hanthana, it's better to collaborate among local ones; however, we are also beside you. 05:09:32 <maktrix> kaio_tab: here is the ticket https://fedorahosted.org/famsco/ticket/193 05:09:45 <bckurera> FAms only cant work 05:09:52 <bckurera> the others support should be there always 05:10:14 <bckurera> everything is not flexible all the time so we should adopt 05:10:15 <hanthana> udinnet: as the organizer and an ambassador you must try to slove the issue not like the way bckurera works here 05:10:16 <dramsey> +1 for understanding 05:10:23 <azneita> maktrix, can't see it, but is it the same one we talked about? 05:10:28 <bckurera> finally what matter is spreading FOSS 05:10:38 <Suresh> cool cool :) 05:10:52 <udinnet> +1 Suresh 05:10:59 <born2linux> +1 suresh 05:11:00 <udinnet> yes hanthana 05:11:16 <dramsey> +1 05:11:19 <dramsey> Do we need any other FAmSco support? Media and/or funds? For past, current, and/or future events? 05:11:39 <dramsey> I read something before about Fedora Polo Shirts, did this happen? 05:12:02 <LMartinez> I don't believe this happened unfortunatnylu 05:12:05 <bckurera> hanthana udinnet has no choice, they cant postpone the event 05:12:06 <LMartinez> unfortunantly* 05:12:25 <tuanta> +1 dramsey, how is the Fedora T-shirt, bckurera? 05:12:36 <udinnet> +1 tuanta 05:12:55 <hanthana> bckurera: as i said i asked not to postpone the event but switch the content/speakers 05:13:16 <kaio_tab> Maktrix the ticket is about sgirt 05:13:19 <kaio_tab> Shirt 05:13:28 <bckurera> content is designed by the university not me 05:13:40 <bckurera> we have to provide what they need 05:13:42 <udinnet> We'll not sorted out the speakers and content. I'll contact you soon hanthana 05:13:45 <bckurera> not what you want 05:13:48 <maktrix_> kaio_tab: I had purchased my flight tickets to FUDCon Pune 05:14:09 <udinnet> bckurera, hanthana cool cool :D 05:14:12 <dramsey> Looks like udinnet will be doing CDs, how many CDs for one person to use Fedora? Do you funds to buy media? 05:14:20 <kaio_tab> Is that the ticket? 05:14:22 <maktrix_> it seems from what information is open and from the wiki, that bckurera could have been more coopertive to his fellow FAm 05:14:37 <hanthana> i feel you guys are mad with doing an event without concerning the schedule as who the hell conduct an event without giving an 'Introduction to FOSS' but directly talking about 'PHP development' 05:14:38 <bckurera> dramsey yes we are planning for media per person 05:14:41 <udinnet> darmsey: bckurera is doing CDs 05:14:43 <tuanta> we should not miss CoC out, please 05:14:58 <azneita> guys, let's try to settle this amiably,ok? 05:15:17 <born2linux> i'm sure we can sort this out 05:15:27 <magie> +1 05:15:31 <maktrix_> hanthana: :D what, preaching PHP Dev to newbies ? what the heck :D :D lol 05:15:39 <tuanta> #link http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Community_working_group/Code_of_Conduct 05:15:47 <hanthana> maktrix_: and adons development as well 05:16:03 <tuanta> +1 azneita 05:16:09 <azneita> hey hanthana, can you guys meet? 05:16:16 <azneita> IRL 05:16:19 <maktrix_> +1 azneita 05:16:23 <magie> i think some form of closure is needed 05:16:27 <udinnet> +1 azneita 05:16:31 <dramsey> +1 05:16:42 <dramsey> Who is running for FAmSco? 05:16:49 <dramsey> From our APAC group that is... 05:16:50 <azneita> tuanta, 05:16:52 <maktrix_> bckurera: hanthana meet in person and forget the past 05:16:53 <hanthana> bckurera: i will do canvasing for you if you could stop spoiling the local community :) 05:16:59 * tuanta running for FAmSCo 05:16:59 * Suresh looking forward handle this issue so pls stope now 05:17:05 <azneita> mbuf and bckurera 05:17:22 <maktrix_> +1 Suresh 05:17:27 <dramsey> New Release = New Start 05:17:28 <udinnet> +1 Suresh 05:17:31 <dramsey> +1 05:17:31 <udinnet> pls 05:17:49 <dramsey> Okay, looks like four APAC running in FAmSco right? 05:17:50 <Suresh> lets move to next :) 05:18:03 <dramsey> Before end of meeting how about a "final" vote for me "pitch 05:18:05 <kk4ewt> VOTE 05:18:07 <dramsey> ??? 05:18:12 <dramsey> +1 kk4ewt 05:18:25 * LMartinez has already voted. :) 05:18:28 <tuanta> #chair kk4ewt 05:18:28 <zodbot> Current chairs: EvilBob LMartinez Suresh azneita bckurera born2linux dramsey hanthana kaio_tab kk4ewt magie maktrix mbuf tuanta udinnet 05:18:30 <dramsey> ??? was for "pitch 05:18:36 <tuanta> #chair maktrix_ 05:18:36 <zodbot> Current chairs: EvilBob LMartinez Suresh azneita bckurera born2linux dramsey hanthana kaio_tab kk4ewt magie maktrix maktrix_ mbuf tuanta udinnet 05:18:42 <Suresh> You can vote at https://admin.fedoraproject.org/voting Voting period lasts until 2011-12-05 23:59:59 05:19:03 <maktrix_> tuanta: changed me nick to maktrix no need charing maktix_ 05:19:05 <azneita> we got 6 05:19:08 <dramsey> Just a little more than one week to vote and two weeks for F16 Release Parties. 05:19:21 <dramsey> azneita === 6??? OMG!~ 05:19:38 <tuanta> I just hope the next FAmSCo will do better 05:19:47 <kk4ewt> i didnt need to be chaired either 05:19:50 <azneita> bckurera, kaio, gbraad, rejaul islam, mbuf and tuanta 05:19:56 <dramsey> For next FAmSco what do we want??? 05:20:09 <azneita> you for famsco hehe 05:20:22 <magie> nice azneita ;) 05:20:36 <udinnet> +1 05:20:41 <Suresh> handling what local ambassadors nees on time :) 05:20:42 <dramsey> 8-) hahahaha :-D 05:20:53 <Suresh> s/nees/need 05:20:53 <maktrix_> :) 05:20:58 <udinnet> XD 05:20:59 <dramsey> Money, funds, support? 05:21:10 <Suresh> +1 dramsey 05:21:13 <tuanta> +1 dramsey 05:21:23 <maktrix> +1 dramsey 05:21:23 <tuanta> we should have voice from APAC 05:21:24 <dramsey> What else? Please, don't be shy 05:21:28 <Suresh> not actually money but also swag and media 05:21:28 <kaio_tab> Maktrix pls send me the ticket of the flight and i go ask famsco and harish. :) 05:21:37 <tuanta> I believe that FAmSCo will hear our voice 05:21:41 <azneita> at the very least, meetup of all guys here in next fudcon 05:21:42 <dramsey> +1 kaio_tab 05:21:49 <maktrix> kaio_tab: will cc you in the tecket 05:22:00 <udinnet> +1 azneita 05:22:09 <maktrix> +1 azneita 05:22:13 <born2linux> +1 azneita 05:22:18 <maktrix> I love FUDCon :) 05:22:28 <udinnet> Nice to hear those words! 05:22:36 <kk4ewt> maktrix: your turn to organize one then 05:22:48 <kaio_tab> Kaio if elected will be a ticket pusher. 05:23:00 <Suresh> +1 kaio_tab 05:23:15 <LMartinez> +1 05:23:18 <kk4ewt> kaio_tab: sorry fudcon tickets shouldnt need to be pushed 05:23:21 <tuanta> dramsey et all, I'd love to see this: http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/ambassadors/2011-October/018319.html 05:23:21 <kaio_tab> Cash flow in community also is more important mother. XD 05:23:22 <maktrix> kk4ewt: better community deserves first :) i support for Sri Lanka 05:23:52 <hanthana> :) 05:23:54 <dramsey> +1 kakio_tab 05:23:57 <udinnet> +1 05:24:07 <dramsey> +1 Tuan - tuanta 05:24:10 <maktrix> tuanta: my lap batter juicing out, might disconnect any moment 05:24:17 <azneita> tuanta, my wish is actually for IDENTIFY :) 05:24:31 <kk4ewt> fudocn tickets shouldnt need famsco approval if the person applied for subsidy and it was approved 05:24:49 <azneita> noted kk4ewt 05:25:02 <Suresh> remember before 30 Nov, pls change your FAS2 password and ssh key 05:25:13 <maktrix> Suresh: +1 05:25:14 <tuanta> +1 Suresh 05:25:14 <udinnet> Got in Suresh 05:25:15 <dramsey> Good information! 05:25:23 <udinnet> Already done 05:25:27 <dramsey> #info Suresh: remember before 30 Nov, pls change your FAS2 password and ssh key 05:25:29 <maktrix> make it an action item for APAC 05:25:35 <tuanta> +1 dramsey 05:25:42 <dramsey> #info Suresh makes good information for us 05:25:51 <dramsey> WHoops, +1 maktrix 05:25:53 <Suresh> +1 all 05:26:02 <tuanta> anything else for today? 05:26:03 <dramsey> Other thoughts? 05:26:05 <kaio_tab> I understand. Just community architect doesn't have time to assess before approval/payment. 05:26:21 <tuanta> we are over 30 minutes :) 05:26:23 <dramsey> Vote as a closing note. Wishes that I was running 05:26:26 <Suresh> tuanta: shall we end the meeting 05:26:30 <dramsey> Have a great weekend. ;) 05:26:39 <maktrix> dramsey: run next time 05:26:41 <dramsey> +1 APAC 05:26:41 <tuanta> great! 05:26:45 <kaio_tab> Otherwise, as prev famsco i am more happy to focus on igniting events. 05:26:49 <tuanta> +1 maktrix 05:26:57 <Suresh> +1 APAC 05:27:00 <maktrix> kaio_tab: +1 05:27:04 <udinnet> +1 APAC 05:27:07 <tuanta> +1 Fedora!! 05:27:13 <dramsey> :) 05:27:15 <maktrix> +1 FUDCon 05:27:18 <tuanta> we should close now 05:27:18 <dramsey> We can do it 05:27:20 <udinnet> :D 05:27:23 <udinnet> yeah 05:27:25 <tuanta> 5 05:27:28 <born2linux> +1, thanks everyone 05:27:29 <tuanta> 4 05:27:30 <dramsey> Thank you all for attending our meeting. 05:27:33 <tuanta> 3 05:27:35 <magie> bye everyone, see you next time 05:27:36 <tuanta> 2 05:27:36 <dramsey> See you next time. ;) 05:27:38 <tuanta> 1 05:27:38 <udinnet> bye all 05:27:41 <tuanta> 0.5 05:27:41 <dramsey> :D 05:27:42 <maktrix> azneita: hanthana do you remeber the ryhme I say FUD you say con 05:27:44 <dramsey> VOTE! 05:27:45 <tuanta> #endmeeting