20:01:18 <cwickert> #startmeeting EMEA Ambassadors 2011-11-30 20:01:18 <zodbot> Meeting started Wed Nov 30 20:01:18 2011 UTC. The chair is cwickert. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 20:01:18 <zodbot> Useful Commands: #action #agreed #halp #info #idea #link #topic. 20:01:28 <cwickert> #meetingname EMEA Ambassadors 2011-11 20:01:28 <zodbot> The meeting name has been set to 'emea_ambassadors_2011-11' 20:01:37 <thunderbirdtr> hello cwickert 20:01:45 <cwickert> #topic Role call 20:01:52 <cwickert> .fas cwickert 20:01:53 <zodbot> cwickert: cwickert 'Christoph Wickert' <christoph.wickert@googlemail.com> 20:02:02 <cwickert> .fas thunderbirdtr 20:02:03 <zodbot> cwickert: thunderbirdtr 'Onuralp SEZER' <thunderbirdtr@gmail.com> 20:02:14 <cwickert> hi Onuralp :) 20:02:18 <thunderbirdtr> :) 20:02:27 <cwickert> let's wait a little for the others to show up... 20:02:33 <thunderbirdtr> fine 20:02:37 <thunderbirdtr> I'm waiting :) 20:03:17 <delhage> .fas delhage 20:03:17 <zodbot> delhage: delhage 'Lars Delhage' <delhage@gmail.com> 20:03:39 <delhage> I'm not entirely here... 20:03:51 <sesivany> .fas eischmann 20:03:55 <zodbot> sesivany: eischmann 'Jiri Eischmann' <eischmann@redhat.com> 20:05:13 * jsmith is lurking, as usual 20:05:38 <cwickert> delhage: are you ever entirely somewhere? ;) 20:05:42 <cwickert> hi sesivany 20:05:51 <sesivany> hi everyone 20:05:59 <cwickert> alright, lets start 20:06:07 <cwickert> the agenda for today can be found at https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Meeting:EMEA_Ambassadors_2011-11-30 20:06:20 <cwickert> basically it is business as usuall, so lets make it a quick meeting 20:06:29 <cwickert> s/usuall/usual 20:06:42 <cwickert> #topic Announcements 20:07:07 <delhage> cwickert: hehe 20:07:17 <cwickert> #info GO VOTE NOW if you haven't already. https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Elections 20:07:24 <sesivany> ! 20:07:31 <cwickert> sesivany: your turn 20:07:56 <sesivany> I'd like to say that we're still looking for speakers for DevConf 2012 - see http://www.devconf.cz 20:08:27 <sesivany> if you wanted to organize a hackfest or meet up we'd be happy to host at the conference. 20:08:39 <sesivany> eof 20:09:30 <cwickert> sesivany: I am thinking about coming, but it quite a ride... 20:09:35 <Affix> Sorry I'm late guys 20:09:54 <cwickert> and I am not sure how developer-focused a talk needs to be 20:10:08 * cwickert is more the sysadmin and packager type of guy 20:10:32 <cwickert> sesivany: you think people would attend a workshop on packaging and build systems? 20:10:32 <sesivany> cwickert: well, it doesn't have to be a developer-focused talk, but definitely technical. 20:10:33 * Affix is a packager/sysadmin/developer guy :D 20:10:46 <sesivany> most of the audience will be developers and admins. 20:10:53 * delhage is a confused guy 20:11:04 <thunderbirdtr> For security ? 20:11:10 <thunderbirdtr> or just development ? 20:11:18 <Affix> sesivany: If you can arrange a flight I would gladly speak 20:11:50 <sesivany> affix: well, we have some budget for community people, so it could be possible ;) 20:11:57 <cwickert> Affix: haha, flight :) 20:11:57 <Affix> =] 20:12:06 <cwickert> next airport is Prague, right? 20:12:06 <thunderbirdtr> :) 20:12:20 <Affix> How far in the sticks are you :P 20:12:27 <cwickert> when I want to travel to Brno, I even need to take a bus 20:12:39 * cwickert cannot believe this in western europe 20:12:43 <cwickert> anyway... 20:13:09 <sesivany> cwickert: the nearest airport is Vienna, 120 km away. 20:13:12 <unon> Today I received some material for a release event. Now, I am ready to Do It. 20:13:12 <cwickert> #info sesivany is still looking for speakers for DevConf 2012 - see http://www.devconf.cz 20:13:18 <cwickert> sesivany: ah, ok 20:13:31 <cwickert> alright, any more announcements? 20:13:52 <cwickert> #topic Ambassadors Schedule 20:13:54 <sesivany> cwickert: and there is also an airport in Brno, a few flights to London, Milan etc. 20:14:10 <unon> I am now trying to get a more especific day for the event to share it... 20:14:10 <cwickert> the schedule can be found at http://rbergero.fedorapeople.org/schedules/f-16/f-16-ambassadors-tasks.html 20:14:37 <cwickert> unon: hold on please, lets follow the agenda from https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Meeting:EMEA_Ambassadors_2011-11-16 and the meeting protocol, ok? 20:14:50 <unon> ok ;) 20:14:53 <cwickert> wrong link 20:14:56 <cwickert> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Meeting:EMEA_Ambassadors_2011-11-30 20:15:33 <cwickert> ok, nothing on the schedule, exctept... 20:15:38 <cwickert> #topic Release events 20:15:46 <cwickert> unon: now it's your turn ;) 20:15:51 <unon> ok 20:16:29 <unon> As I said, I am trying to get a more specific day for the event. 20:17:23 <cwickert> wow, my X server crashed... 20:17:24 <unon> Anyone have a sugestion of anything to do on the release event? Its my first one :D 20:17:41 <cwickert> unon: which one is it? 20:18:06 <sesivany> unon: you should try our SelfTest, it's fun ;-) 20:18:16 <unon> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Release_Party_F16_Ponta_Delgada 20:18:42 <cwickert> unon: thanks 20:19:17 <unon> What is the SelfTest? 20:19:29 <cwickert> unon: I sent you stickers, right? 20:19:40 <unon> thats right 20:19:45 <unon> and bottons 20:20:00 <cwickert> ok, basically what you do on a release event is you introduce Fedora 20:20:07 <cwickert> and the latest release 20:20:16 <cwickert> you tell a little bit about the new features 20:20:16 <sesivany> unon: it's a web app in Python where you can put questions about Fedora and explanations. We had two computers with Firefoxs fullscreen and made a contest for hats, hoodies etc. 20:20:24 <Affix> unon: do an install day 20:20:49 <sesivany> unon: it should be hosted on Fedorahosted, looking for a link. 20:20:51 <thunderbirdtr> introduce to new feature 20:20:52 <cwickert> for F16 you can pick a few features from https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Releases/16/FeatureList 20:21:03 <thunderbirdtr> +1 cwickert 20:21:29 <sesivany> unon: https://fedorahosted.org/selftest/ 20:21:42 <gnokii> sorry I am late 20:22:21 <Affix> gnokii: better late than never :) 20:22:55 <cwickert> unon: it very much depends on the audience. if people are mostly windows users, I'd show them the latest gnome 3.2 20:23:08 <cwickert> and perhaps a little bit of KVM with virt-manager 20:23:25 <cwickert> if you have a computer that can do virtualization 20:23:29 <unon> Maybe do the event with a Linux Day because if you look well, my island dont know what is Linux and a small workshop with the presentation of Fedora 16 is probably the best option. 20:23:40 <cwickert> right 20:23:53 <unon> The audience is principaly students 20:23:55 <Affix> I would show off the boot loader 20:23:58 <cwickert> F16 has a lot of developer features and they might not be interesting for your people 20:24:10 <cwickert> so better start with an introduction into Linux and Fedora 20:24:18 <cwickert> something that everybody understands 20:24:23 <Affix> unon: showing the boot loader can show the newcomers how easy it is to configure dual boot with fedora and windows 20:24:31 <unon> Yes, Its was my first idea. 20:24:37 <cwickert> will there be computer science students, too? 20:25:04 <unon> Yes, they will come. 20:25:20 <unon> And, also I work with them... 20:26:37 <cwickert> if you are looking for material, take a look at http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Presentations 20:27:01 <cwickert> unon: and last but not least: have fun! make sure you have food and drinks 20:27:11 <cwickert> Fedora can reimburse you 20:27:27 <unon> I convidated one designer to leave Windows for 1 day and try the Fedora 20:28:01 <cwickert> unon: you might want to show him the design-spin 20:28:04 <unon> He will do some works on GIMP (by Fedora) and present that on the event 20:29:00 <unon> It looks a good idea, no? 20:29:04 <cwickert> I think so 20:29:14 <cwickert> if you are still unsure, have a look at http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FedoraEvents/ReleaseEvents 20:29:40 <cwickert> and last but not least 20:29:47 <cwickert> pics or it didn't happen :) 20:29:57 <unon> He says that Photoshop is the best, so lets see what he will say about GIMP 20:29:58 <cwickert> make sure to make some photos please 20:30:08 <unon> yes ;) 20:30:16 <cwickert> ok 20:30:21 <cwickert> anything more on this? 20:30:23 <Affix> unon: a video of your presentation would be good 20:30:23 <unon> I will put on the page of the event 20:30:26 <thunderbirdtr> ! 20:30:45 <cwickert> as for food and drinks, I think that every release evnt has a budget of 50 EUR 20:31:03 <cwickert> you can file a ticket in FAmSCo's trac to get reimbursed 20:31:16 <cwickert> some people even had a fedora cake 20:31:28 <unon> Oh, thats a good idea ;) 20:31:34 <Affix> That cake was awesome :P 20:31:54 <thunderbirdtr> Really ? How is taste ? 20:31:55 <thunderbirdtr> :) 20:32:01 <thunderbirdtr> like fedora ? 20:32:07 <Affix> unon: http://www.tux-planet.fr/public/images/screenshots/distributions/fedora/fedora-cake.jpg 20:32:20 <cwickert> the sad rest of a Fedora cake: http://zoltanh721.linuxempire.hu/wp-content/uploads/2011/06/P1120329-150x150.jpg 20:32:21 <unon> cool 20:32:27 <cwickert> erm. wrong link 20:32:43 <cwickert> http://zoltanh721.linuxempire.hu/wp-content/uploads/2011/06/P1120318.jpg 20:32:50 <cwickert> that is a nice one, heh? ;) 20:33:10 <unon> yes 20:33:39 * cwickert thinks that food and drinks are really important to make people happy 20:33:43 <unon> "Affix unon: a video of your presentation would be good" The video has to be on ING 20:33:43 <Affix> cwickert: http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_BAHGezFycGE/TJ-mxMN7-cI/AAAAAAAAAEo/MReMMRXJpX0/s1600/CIMG0688.JPG 20:33:44 <Affix> I win 20:33:56 <thunderbirdtr> cwickert, What happen to first picture you send :)) ? 20:33:58 <unon> right? 20:34:35 <Affix> unon: all you need is a video camera and save it as ogg and put a link to it on the event page 20:34:56 <unon> Ok 20:34:58 <cwickert> unon: don't make too much hassle. ;) it's your first event and you still need to have room for improvement :) 20:35:12 <cwickert> so if there is no video, that's fine 20:35:25 <unon> ok 20:35:34 <cwickert> thunderbirdtr: ok, your turn now 20:35:43 <thunderbirdtr> Thank you 20:37:05 <thunderbirdtr> I want to prepare release even too,But first, I and my friends will open the new Fedora Computer labratory,and with that I will intrduce to fedora about,feature,answer to people problem etc . 20:37:34 <cwickert> new lab? sounds interesting 20:37:50 <cwickert> at your school or university? 20:37:57 <thunderbirdtr> Yes. I will open Fedora Computer Labratory 20:37:57 <thunderbirdtr> University 20:38:05 <thunderbirdtr> I have project and I assigned for it 20:38:48 <cwickert> how many computers are there? 20:39:21 <thunderbirdtr> 1 Computer is workstation 20:39:21 <thunderbirdtr> 6 Computer is desktop 20:39:30 <cwickert> I see 20:39:42 <thunderbirdtr> And Students laptops 20:39:46 <cwickert> ok, I guess you have a lot of ideas for your event 20:39:52 <cwickert> is there anything you still need? 20:39:52 <thunderbirdtr> I already install fedora 20:40:05 <thunderbirdtr> Just for fedora stuff 20:40:13 <thunderbirdtr> like stickers etc 20:40:32 <cwickert> I can send you stickers, sesivany can send you media 20:40:52 <thunderbirdtr> Ok 20:40:52 <cwickert> please send me a mail with your address 20:40:57 <Affix> thunderbirdtr: is it connected to a windows domain? 20:41:05 <cwickert> when will the event take place? 20:41:15 <Affix> cwickert: I'm doing a presentation next week I could use some media and stickers 20:41:35 <sesivany> thunderbirdtr: yes, I can, tomorrow easily, just file a ticket. 20:41:45 <thunderbirdtr> I will 20:41:55 <thunderbirdtr> cwickert, And I will say you 20:42:04 <cwickert> thunderbirdtr, Affix: for media please file a ticket at https://fedorahosted.org/emea-swag-tracking/ 20:42:05 <thunderbirdtr> I need to talk my teacher for computer come date 20:42:12 <cwickert> and assign it to "eischmann" 20:42:36 <cwickert> #action thunderbirdtr and Affix to file tickets for media at https://fedorahosted.org/emea-swag-tracking/ and assign it to eischmann 20:42:54 <sesivany> thunderbirdtr: provide your full address and your phone number, also specify what kind of media you want (multidesktop live, 32-bit installation, 64-bit installation). 20:42:56 <cwickert> #info for stickers, mail cwickert or file a ticket and assign it to him 20:43:13 <cwickert> sesivany: speaking of media... did you ship mine already? 20:43:31 <thunderbirdtr> sesivany, Ok I will say you 20:43:36 <sesivany> cwickert: going to do it tomorrow as well, is it in hurry? 20:43:57 <thunderbirdtr> cwickert, Am I have open page for event in fedora wiki ? 20:44:07 <thunderbirdtr> sorry for typing 20:44:11 <thunderbirdtr> Am I have to .... 20:44:15 <sesivany> thunderbirdtr, Affix: I'd like to send at least 100 because sending less is not cost effective, Fedex is not a cheap service. 20:44:23 <cwickert> sesivany: no, not in a hurry, but if I had media I could send stickers and media to people in one package 20:44:43 <sesivany> cwickert: ok, I'll send it tomo. 20:44:47 <Affix> sesivany: how many multiboot DVDs do you have available? 20:44:50 <cwickert> sesivany: that's just what I had in mind, I would cover smaller packages for events 20:45:48 <sesivany> Affix: I can't tell you right now, but definitely still several hundred. 20:46:01 <Affix> sesivany: Knock 150 off your count 20:46:08 <Affix> If you need help I can split shipping with you 20:46:18 <thunderbirdtr> cwickert, When computer date come to close , I will send ticket ok ? 20:46:26 <thunderbirdtr> Or do now ? 20:47:13 <cwickert> thunderbirdtr: how urgent is it? 20:47:20 <Affix> https://fedorahosted.org/emea-swag-tracking/ticket/130#comment:1 20:47:35 <sesivany> Affix: we'd like to split all orders between multiboot and installation, could it be at lest 100 multi vs 50 installation? 20:47:45 <Affix> sesivany: That would be ideal 20:48:04 <Affix> 100 multi 25 x86 and 25x86_64? 20:48:06 <cwickert> sesivany: just send me media and I will cover thunderbirdtr's order 20:48:18 <sesivany> cwickert: ok 20:48:34 <thunderbirdtr> cwickert, It's not urgent I have time 20:48:35 <cwickert> thunderbirdtr: no need to file a ticket, just write me a mail and I will send you everything, ok? 20:48:46 <thunderbirdtr> cwickert, OK 20:48:57 <sesivany> ! 20:49:11 <cwickert> sesivany: looking at https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/F16_release_events#EMEA - do you think everybody has media? 20:49:20 <cwickert> go ahead, sesivany 20:49:22 <thunderbirdtr> cwickert, I will send mail for about computer date and for stuff ? 20:49:36 <sesivany> cwickert: I think so, I'll check all tracking numbers tomo. 20:50:03 <cwickert> sesivany: looks good to me 20:50:39 <Affix> sesivany: how much is the shipping? 20:50:47 <cwickert> thunderbirdtr: I changed my mind, better do a ticket. and please make a wiki page, too 20:51:16 <cwickert> thunderbirdtr: see http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/ambassadors/2011-October/018300.html for details 20:51:31 <sesivany> Affix: I honestly don't know. We have to send it with Fedex, that's a corporate rule. So we have no choice and they charge us later. 20:51:47 <Affix> ok sesivany let me know how much it comes to 20:51:47 <thunderbirdtr> cwickert, OK 20:51:56 <Affix> Would it be possible for them to be shipped ASAP? 20:52:21 <sesivany> Affix: I'll send it tomo, it should be delivered within two days. 20:52:28 <cwickert> Affix: yes, but next time you might want to file your ticket a little earlier, ok? ;) 20:52:29 <Affix> ok thanks very much :( 20:52:31 <Affix> :)* 20:52:42 <thunderbirdtr> cwickert, Thank you 20:52:43 <cwickert> ok, more on release events? 20:52:54 <cwickert> #topic Events 20:52:56 <Affix> cwickert: I will be doing a presentation next friday 20:53:01 <cwickert> not many other events at the moment 20:53:27 <Affix> My presentation is Setting up and Hardening an RHEL / Fedora Server 20:53:47 <sesivany> Affix: just looked at the ticket, add your phone number, Fedex refuses packages that don't have a phone number attached to the address. 20:53:55 <cwickert> Affix: sounds nice, please don't forget 20:53:58 <Affix> It is being recorded and passed around all the colleges and Universities in scotland 20:54:06 <cwickert> erm... 20:54:11 <Affix> sesivany: Would a Mobile Number be ok? 20:54:18 <cwickert> please don't forget to write an event report afterwards 20:54:23 <sesivany> Affix: sure 20:54:28 <Affix> cwickert: I will dont worry :) 20:55:06 <sesivany> Affix: I just need some number, if it's your grandmother's I don't care :-) 20:55:10 <Affix> sesivany: added ut 20:55:12 <Affix> it* 20:55:23 <cwickert> ok, https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Events#FY12_Q3_.28October_2011_-_December_2011.29 only shows a single event until the end of the year 20:55:33 <cwickert> and this is taken care of by the french 20:55:38 <cwickert> nothing for us to do 20:55:49 <cwickert> #topic Action items from previous meetings 20:55:59 * cwickert looks at the old meeting minutes... 20:56:16 <cwickert> NOT DONE - cwickert and heffer to write event reports 20:56:30 <cwickert> I have at leaser started my report :) 20:56:36 <Affix> =] 20:56:39 <cwickert> I promise to finish it 20:56:48 <cwickert> s/leaser/least 20:56:48 <thunderbirdtr> :) 20:57:15 <cwickert> NOT (really) DONE - delhage and rsc to write event reports about FSCONS 20:57:28 <cwickert> I think rsc wrote one, but delhage not... 20:57:36 <cwickert> delhage: is this correct? 20:59:02 <cwickert> ok, rsc wrote something at http://www.linuxnetz.de/ 20:59:07 <delhage> cwickert: neither of us did yet 20:59:13 <delhage> afaik 20:59:16 <cwickert> DONE cwickert to look through the swag tracker and close old tickets 20:59:23 <cwickert> NOT DONE cwickert to call for a swag contest 20:59:28 * Affix doesn't speak german =[ 20:59:29 <delhage> cwickert: will do, just had a lot of other stuff 20:59:29 <cwickert> NOT DONE cwickert to ask for more long term projects 20:59:40 <delhage> oh 20:59:45 <cwickert> I have to admit that I was really bad the last 2 weeks 20:59:50 <cwickert> but I was very busy 21:00:04 <cwickert> I will try to catch up ASAP 21:00:11 <cwickert> #topic Open Floor 21:00:18 <cwickert> ok, anything more? 21:01:25 * cwickert will close the meeting in 3 minutes, if nobody has anything to say 21:04:16 <cwickert> #endmeeting