22:00:29 <cwickert> #startmeeting FAmSCo Meeting 2011-12-21
22:00:29 <zodbot> Meeting started Wed Dec 21 22:00:29 2011 UTC.  The chair is cwickert. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.
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22:00:41 <cwickert> #meetingname FAmSCo Meeting 2011-12-21
22:00:41 <zodbot> The meeting name has been set to 'famsco_meeting_2011-12-21'
22:00:59 <cwickert> #chairs herlo, yn1v, gbraad, igorps
22:01:20 <cwickert> guess that was not the right command
22:01:21 <cwickert> anyway
22:01:26 <herlo> #chair
22:01:33 <cwickert> #chair herlo, yn1v, gbraad, igorps
22:01:33 <zodbot> Current chairs: cwickert gbraad herlo igorps yn1v
22:01:40 <cwickert> thanks herlo
22:01:42 <herlo> np
22:01:47 <cwickert> #topic Role call
22:01:51 <cwickert> .fas cwickert
22:01:52 <herlo> I'm a bird!
22:01:52 <zodbot> cwickert: cwickert 'Christoph Wickert' <christoph.wickert@googlemail.com>
22:01:57 <herlo> oh, roll call
22:02:02 * herlo kids
22:02:03 <cwickert> oops
22:02:10 <herlo> 'tis okay
22:02:11 * cwickert always get this wrong
22:02:22 <cwickert> this is like the 1000th time
22:02:27 <herlo> no worries
22:02:27 <cwickert> #undo
22:02:27 <zodbot> Removing item from minutes: <MeetBot.items.Topic object at 0x1bc5dcd0>
22:02:36 <cwickert> #topic Roll call
22:02:38 <cwickert> :)
22:02:49 <cwickert> hi igorps
22:02:55 * herlo is here
22:02:55 <cwickert> just the 3 of us?
22:03:00 <igorps> cwickert, hello!
22:03:23 * herlo knows the email went out
22:03:33 <cwickert> herlo: which mail?
22:03:39 <herlo> cwickert: google calendar
22:03:43 <cwickert> ah
22:03:47 <herlo> should have landed in your fp.o email
22:03:58 <cwickert> yeah, I deleted it from my calendar :)
22:04:05 <yn1v> sorry! here I am !!
22:04:07 <herlo> that's fine. just as long as you get the email
22:04:09 <cwickert> because I track everything in my work calendar
22:04:24 <igorps> now we are four
22:04:25 <herlo> cwickert: we can change your email if you like, just send me an email
22:04:36 <cwickert> alright
22:04:44 <cwickert> Zoltan will not make it
22:04:50 <igorps> the others might arrive later
22:04:54 <cwickert> and I guerr gbraad neither
22:05:01 <cwickert> s/guerr/guess
22:05:20 <herlo> ya
22:05:29 <cwickert> alright, anybody from the old folks wants to take over?
22:05:40 <cwickert> I mean, one who has served in FAmSCo before?
22:05:41 <yn1v> I was trying to see the trac and I got a server error :-/
22:05:58 <igorps> cwickert, feel free to keep chairing
22:06:36 <herlo> +1 igorps
22:06:42 <yn1v> +1
22:06:53 <cwickert> that is not cool, fedorahosted seems busted
22:07:03 <cwickert> alright, then lets start with the wiki
22:07:34 <cwickert> ouch, now even the wiki is down
22:07:35 <cwickert> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FAmSCo_agenda
22:07:37 <herlo> cwickert: they just announced a reboot outage
22:07:49 * nirik sighs. Why do I always schedule outages when a meeting is happening.
22:07:51 <nirik> Sorry about this.
22:08:02 <cwickert> nirik: you don't like FAmSCo, do you? ;)
22:08:05 <herlo> I bet it will be back up
22:08:08 <herlo> shortly
22:08:23 * nirik makes a note to reschedule them for later or something. ;(
22:08:24 <cwickert> ok, in the meantime we can do something that every new FAmSCo needs to to
22:08:29 <cwickert> elect a new chair
22:08:37 <igorps> cwickert, +1
22:08:46 <yn1v> good call
22:09:12 <igorps> I think we can get a consensus and a majority here
22:09:39 <herlo> probably
22:09:57 <igorps> we need a consensus since some members are not here
22:10:21 <cwickert> do we also elect a vice chair and a secretary?
22:10:41 <herlo> secretary for what? we have meetbot :)
22:10:56 <cwickert> alright
22:11:01 <igorps> From what I recall from last term the chair appointed a vice-chair
22:11:06 <yn1v> I like the idea to have clear task division
22:11:14 <cwickert> such as?
22:11:29 <cwickert> one gets all the fame, the other is to do all the work? ;)
22:11:35 <yn1v> somebody to post to wiki and mailing list the output of meetboot
22:11:43 <yn1v> I can get that covered
22:11:58 <herlo> yn1v: I don't understand the need
22:11:59 <yn1v> So I volunteer as secretary
22:12:08 <herlo> meetbot breaks it out just fine
22:12:25 <cwickert> I an not 100% sure about the FAmSCo election guidelines
22:12:36 <yn1v> I will take care of send an email with links and post it on the wiki
22:12:42 <igorps> herlo, it needs to go to the wiki and to the mailing list
22:12:42 <herlo> you have #agreed, #idea, and a bunch more that meetbot can take care of
22:12:44 <cwickert> we need a quorum, right?
22:12:49 <herlo> igorps: why?
22:13:02 <herlo> I understand the mailing list, but the meetbot does the work already to a webpage
22:13:26 <yn1v> it is easy to find it on the wiki
22:13:26 <herlo> I don't mean to slow things down, but it seems like extra work
22:13:42 <herlo> yn1v: k, If you want to do the work
22:13:51 <cwickert> yeah, and somebody needs to put links to the protocols on https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FAmSCo_meetings
22:14:02 <igorps> herlo, I think you got it wrong, what yn1v is trying to say is that we will still use zodbot but we need someone to post the minutes and logs in other places
22:14:27 <herlo> igorps: I get that
22:14:28 <yn1v> exactly
22:14:31 <cwickert> we need to: 1) send out a reminder, 2) post the minutes to the mailing list and 3) to the wiki
22:14:58 <herlo> was just thinking that it doesn't really need to be on the wiki, but if you all think it does, that's fine
22:15:05 <herlo> reminders I have taken care of
22:15:27 <cwickert> herlo: what else would you do to find the meeting minutes?
22:15:30 <herlo> so email the ml was all I saw
22:15:31 <yn1v> have automatic reminder is great. thanks for that!
22:15:49 <igorps> I think it really does need to be on the wiki to make the reports easier for me :)
22:15:52 <cwickert> ok, wiki is back up
22:16:09 <herlo> cwickert: what do you mean? I guess it can be on the wiki, just seems like duplication of effort
22:16:28 <igorps> I can keep writing the reports by the way
22:16:30 <cwickert> herlo: how do you find the minutes of a meeting?
22:16:55 <cwickert> search  http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org when you don't know date or channel?
22:16:58 <herlo> cwickert: google?
22:17:09 * herlo notes that meetbot might need to be adjusted
22:17:10 * gomix lurks
22:17:14 <yn1v> I have searched the meetbot web page for logs, and sometimes meetings do not have proper title and you have to open msot of the meeting of that day.
22:17:17 <cwickert> again, that requires that you now the date
22:17:21 <herlo> give the topic rather than just a date
22:17:30 <herlo> cwickert: yes, bad meetbot
22:17:46 <igorps> herlo, having them only on the mailing list is really hard to find as well
22:17:47 <herlo> wiki for now I guess. I'll get it fixed since we do this all the time with another project
22:17:47 <cwickert> I don't think it is too much work to link the meetings from https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FAmSCo_meetings
22:17:57 <herlo> igorps: took me under 30 seconds just now
22:18:07 <herlo> but I digress
22:18:21 <herlo> let's move to something more useful
22:18:25 <yn1v> +1
22:18:38 <herlo> seems that everyone else wants it on the wiki, I don't mean to slow down progress :)
22:18:54 <cwickert> herlo: when I google for "famsco meeting", the first hit is the wiki page ;)
22:19:00 <igorps> the wiki can give a better perspective of the meetings over the months too
22:19:27 <cwickert> try to find a famsco meeting in november with google but do not use the wiki. good luck
22:19:34 <herlo> cwickert: it's fine
22:19:36 <herlo> let's move on
22:19:37 <cwickert> anyway, lets not discuss this for too long
22:19:39 <cwickert> +1
22:19:42 <igorps> +1
22:20:00 * cwickert looks at the famsco guidelines
22:21:15 <cwickert> ok, here we go: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FAmSCo_election_rules
22:21:27 <cwickert> Election of the Chairperson
22:21:30 <cwickert> Once an election is completed, the committee must elect a  Chairperson.  This will be done by the end of the first FAmSCo meeting  that is held after the election. Until a new Chairperson is elected, the  current chair will continue in that role.  The FAmSCo Chairperson can  be removed by the Fedora Project Board or by an absolute majority vote of the FAmSCo.  If this happens, a new Chairperson must be elected within one week.
22:21:30 <igorps> The chair should be elected, and the vice-chair appointed by him
22:21:57 <cwickert> Appointment of Vice-Chairperson
22:22:00 <cwickert> No later than one week after election, the FAmSCo chairperson will  appoint the Vice-Chairperson.  The FAmSCo Vice-Chairperson can be  removed by the Fedora Project Board or by an absolute majority vote of the FAmSCo.  If this happens, a new Vice-Chairperson must be appointed within one week.
22:22:10 <cwickert> ok, we are already late
22:22:19 <cwickert> anybody who wants to run for chair?
22:22:30 * cwickert is willing to do it
22:22:52 * herlo +1's cwickert
22:22:55 <cwickert> anybody else?
22:23:13 <igorps> cwickert, since you been pretty active, including during the last term I think you deserve it
22:23:16 * yn1v +1 cwickert
22:23:27 <igorps> +1 cwickert
22:23:45 <cwickert> ok, thanks
22:23:52 <cwickert> do we need a quorum here?
22:24:03 <cwickert> and if so, 4 out of 7 seats?
22:24:10 <cwickert> or only out of people present?
22:24:19 <herlo> cwickert: if we have 4 votes, that's still a majority
22:24:23 <igorps> we need a majority at least
22:24:29 <herlo> right
22:24:43 <cwickert> #agreed cwickert becomes new FAmSCo chair
22:25:14 <cwickert> as we have no secretary, I suggest to make yn1v vize chair
22:25:22 <yn1v> :)
22:25:27 <yn1v> okey
22:25:31 <cwickert> yn1v: do you agree with that?
22:25:44 <yn1v> yes, I agree
22:25:57 <cwickert> to be honest, I'd rather like to vote
22:26:12 <cwickert> but as I am expected to appoint somebody, I just need to pick somebody
22:26:20 <cwickert> so I pick yn1v
22:26:44 <cwickert> #info cwickert appoints yn1v as vize chair
22:26:55 <herlo> cwickert: does he have to accept it?
22:27:01 <herlo> I assume he will, but still
22:27:04 <cwickert> I think he just has
22:27:09 <yn1v> I do !
22:27:13 <herlo> yay!
22:27:20 * herlo missed that line above
22:27:21 <cwickert> herlo: that is a good question, the wiki doesn't say anything about this
22:27:29 <herlo> cwickert: we should probably clarify on the wiki
22:27:35 <cwickert> exactly
22:27:37 <igorps> good idea
22:27:48 <cwickert> I want to rework the whole election policy
22:28:06 <herlo> yes, I recall that
22:28:15 <cwickert> I have already started working on something at https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Cwickert/Proposed_FAmSCo_election_rules
22:28:16 <yn1v> I want to help on that.
22:28:27 <cwickert> but it is not finished, so lets not discuss this now
22:28:36 <cwickert> I'd first like to come up with a real draft
22:28:42 <herlo> #idea adjust appointed vice chair to include confirmation from appointee
22:28:51 <cwickert> thanks herlo
22:29:02 <herlo> If anyone wants to do meetbot functions - http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Zodbot#Meeting_Functions is helpful
22:29:14 <cwickert> #action cwickert and yn1v to work on new FAmSCo election guidelines
22:29:46 <cwickert> ok, should we now continue with trac or with the wiki? we have two agendas
22:30:04 * herlo votes for trac
22:30:20 <cwickert> alright, there is a couple of trac tickets in the report at https://fedorahosted.org/famsco/report/9
22:30:26 <cwickert> they are all straight forward
22:30:27 <igorps> I think we should reassign the tasks ASAP
22:30:28 * herlo looks
22:30:29 <igorps> http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FAmSCo_tasks
22:30:33 * yn1v likes the trac idea
22:31:15 <cwickert> ok, looks like we need to distribute the tasks from http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FAmSCo_tasks again
22:31:40 <cwickert> who servered in FAmSCo before. yn1v, who else?
22:32:00 <yn1v> graad and igorps
22:32:21 <cwickert> #action share tasks form http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FAmSCo_tasks among the new members
22:32:39 <yn1v> sorry gbraad
22:32:53 <cwickert> how about approving budget?
22:33:17 <cwickert> yn1v: I see you already approved and paid some tickets that I marked ready for payment
22:33:28 <igorps> cwickert, we all do that by voting in the meetings
22:33:32 <cwickert> does this go through FAmSCo nevertheless?
22:33:44 <cwickert> igorps: right, that's what I thought
22:33:45 <yn1v> yes It should go by Famsco
22:34:00 <cwickert> ok, is there a limit what we can approve?
22:34:07 <cwickert> I was told we cannot do https://fedorahosted.org/famsco/ticket/218
22:34:08 <yn1v> my fault with medias for Argentina.
22:34:35 <cwickert> yn1v: it was only small amounts, actually I like credit card holders to do this
22:36:08 <cwickert> anyway, I think we can close it
22:36:21 <yn1v> my reason to push it was that it was already delayed.
22:36:21 <cwickert> it was approved by harish and the PO was issued
22:36:34 <cwickert> yn1v: ok, lets finish https://fedorahosted.org/famsco/ticket/218 first
22:37:05 <cwickert> suggestion: close #218 and tell rbergeron to reopen if she needs more info from Jiri
22:37:14 <cwickert> +1 to my own suggestion :)
22:37:29 <herlo> +1
22:37:34 <igorps> +1
22:37:52 <yn1v> +1
22:38:08 <cwickert> #agreed: close #218 and tell rbergeron to reopen if she needs more info from Jiri
22:38:15 <cwickert> next is https://fedorahosted.org/famsco/ticket/229
22:38:29 <cwickert> this is set to NEEDINFO
22:38:33 <cwickert> so nothing we can to
22:38:38 <cwickert> propsal: delay
22:38:46 <cwickert> +1
22:39:17 <cwickert> #topic FAmSCo tickets
22:39:20 <herlo> I'm confused why this is in FAMSCo's purview
22:40:10 <cwickert> who else should do it?
22:40:16 <igorps> what we can do is wait basically
22:40:37 <herlo> cwickert: the region it is in?
22:40:40 <yn1v> herlo: do you mean this is a regional item ?
22:40:46 <herlo> yn1v: seems to me it is
22:40:51 <cwickert> herlo: ok
22:40:53 <herlo> specific to sri lanka
22:41:03 <herlo> that's APAC, correct?
22:41:16 <cwickert> suggestion: tell him to file a ticket in APAC trac and have it approved there
22:41:20 <herlo> so that maybe should be addressed within that community
22:41:28 <cwickert> +1
22:41:35 <herlo> +1
22:41:39 <igorps> +1
22:41:42 <cwickert> but when it was approved, do we need to look over it again?
22:42:13 <yn1v> we need to clarify the process
22:42:14 <herlo> cwickert: you mean if/when it *is* approved?
22:42:38 <cwickert> #agreed: tell reporter to close #229 and file a ticket in APAC trac instead to have it approved there
22:43:06 <cwickert> herlo: the question become: how much can the local communities approve?
22:43:16 <cwickert> is there somebody to review the local communties?
22:43:32 <cwickert> this is an item we need to discuss
22:43:34 <herlo> cwickert: ahh, yes. I think we should give general advice. Right now, I think those that have credit cards can do the approving
22:43:38 <cwickert> probably at FUDCon
22:43:43 <igorps> if this is a budget request we should deal with it, but if it's only a material request it is up to regional communities
22:44:03 <herlo> at least until we make some sort of official change, no reason to adjust what is currently happening
22:44:20 <yn1v> How much for each ticket and how many tickets, it can easily become a large sum
22:44:20 <cwickert> igorps: you mean first the region decides if the want to have the material and then we decide if we actually pay for it?
22:44:37 <igorps> cwickert, exactly.
22:44:38 <herlo> which is why I suggested pushing it to the local community and having the person with the credit card make the final decision for now.
22:44:59 <cwickert> anyway, lets not try to fix the general problems now, deal with the indivudual ticket because there are people waiting for money
22:45:12 <yn1v> +1
22:45:12 <cwickert> next is https://fedorahosted.org/famsco/ticket/231
22:45:36 <herlo> same argument as last one, push to local community
22:45:38 <cwickert> suggestion_ approve #231 and reimburse the old exchange rate because this is what the reporter actually had to pay
22:45:58 <cwickert> +1 for the record
22:46:03 <herlo> although it looks like it's already approved basically
22:46:16 <herlo> so I +1 for this case
22:46:18 <cwickert> right, it was approved be the credit card holder
22:46:19 <yn1v> +1
22:46:31 <cwickert> #agreed: approve #231 and reimburse the old exchange rate because this is what the reporter actually had to pay
22:46:41 <cwickert> #next is https://fedorahosted.org/famsco/ticket/233
22:46:54 <cwickert> trac still loading....
22:47:04 <cwickert> yn1v: that way you
22:47:10 <cwickert> s/way/was
22:47:14 <yn1v> this was approved
22:47:42 <cwickert> yn1v: did you pay yourself the money? can we close this?
22:47:47 <igorps> yes, that was approved last term
22:47:48 <yn1v> I had to pay some of it cash... sadly I can not reimburse myself with community credit card
22:48:07 <yn1v> so is pending for reimburse.
22:48:09 <cwickert> is there anything left to do?
22:48:11 <cwickert> ah
22:48:19 <igorps> I suggest to keep it open until yn1v gest the money at FUDCon
22:48:25 <cwickert> +1
22:48:33 <cwickert> igorps: but yn1v will not come...
22:48:45 <yn1v> I can wait until I go into one event, or ask harish to send me a reibursement.
22:49:22 <herlo> well, we can always include others in remote at fudcon
22:49:25 <yn1v> leave it open for now, it is not urgent. We will figure out later
22:49:28 <cwickert> #info 233 was already approved in the last term, reporter is waiting for money
22:49:43 <cwickert> #action yn1v to figure out payment for #233 with harish
22:50:04 <cwickert> next up we have https://fedorahosted.org/famsco/ticket/238
22:50:12 <cwickert> +1 for approval as it is my ticket :)
22:50:41 <cwickert> herlo: I guess this is something you want to do locally, too
22:50:48 <yn1v> +1 it is clear
22:50:57 <herlo> cwickert: no, +1 to reimburse you
22:51:04 <igorps> +1, it looks like Joerg can handle the payment
22:51:14 <cwickert> #agreed #238 is approved
22:51:17 <cwickert> next is https://fedorahosted.org/famsco/ticket/238
22:51:23 <cwickert> erm, https://fedorahosted.org/famsco/ticket/239
22:51:29 <cwickert> mine as well
22:51:41 <cwickert> receipts are attached, +1 for approval
22:51:44 <herlo> cwickert: I want to work through what we have first, then implement a different process. It's possible we should revisit that one ticket
22:52:15 <cwickert> herlo: explain please
22:52:52 <igorps> I really can't read the report :)
22:52:53 <herlo> cwickert: just saying that we already have these tickets
22:53:14 <herlo> let's just get through these tickets and move to a more complete policy in the next few meetings
22:53:26 <igorps> but by the pictures it looks like a nice event
22:53:28 <herlo> +1 to 239
22:53:36 <igorps> +1
22:53:54 <cwickert> herlo: yeah, we need to work on a new policy ASAP, I want to have this sorted out at Blacksburg
22:54:05 <cwickert> #agreed #239 is approved
22:54:18 <cwickert> next is https://fedorahosted.org/famsco/ticket/240
22:54:26 <herlo> cwickert: yes, good place to work on it. We should have a famsco hackfest if nothing else :)
22:54:28 <cwickert> welcome kaio
22:54:33 <kaio> cwickert: hi
22:54:35 <cwickert> +1 herlo
22:54:50 <cwickert> kaio: ok, we are just talking about an interesting ticket, it's https://fedorahosted.org/famsco/ticket/240
22:55:02 <cwickert> we are talking about 1000 EUR here
22:55:03 <yn1v> cwickert, please keep me on the loop, If it is possible I would like to collaborate remotely to that budget hackfest
22:55:11 <kaio> just got back from work - busy OT..
22:55:21 <herlo> seems good +1 to 240
22:55:23 <cwickert> that is USD 1300
22:55:37 <cwickert> let me explain a little about this ticket
22:55:49 <cwickert> 1) we have always sponsored them
22:56:12 <cwickert> 2) there were problems with the sponsorship of last year, they just received the money a week ago
22:56:19 <cwickert> so we should be quicker this time
22:56:22 <cwickert> and 3)
22:56:28 <cwickert> we want to have a FAD there
22:56:43 <cwickert> if we want them to give us a room for talks, we better give them sponsoring
22:56:49 <yn1v> what will be topic/goal of FAD ?
22:57:31 <cwickert> well, not FAD as in Fedora *Activity* Day but more as a whole day of talks in a dedicated Fedora track
22:57:44 <igorps> It's a major event and we must fund it, although no speakers are assigned yet
22:58:04 <cwickert> I will give a talk there anyway, with or without our FAD
22:58:09 <yn1v> sounds great to have a room dedicated to fedora talks
22:58:17 <igorps> cwickert, great!
22:58:19 <cwickert> but if we have a room, we can decide on the topics
22:58:26 <kaio> what does 1000 EUR cover?
22:58:26 <cwickert> this makes things easier for us
22:58:47 <cwickert> sponsoring, this means we have a booth and a lot of Fedora banners
22:59:04 <cwickert> we always paid the 100 EUR, even if we had no special fedora track
22:59:26 <cwickert> ah, and we are their "Silver Sponsor" and get advertised on the website and so on
22:59:39 <igorps> sound a good deal
22:59:40 <igorps> +1 to 240
22:59:45 <herlo> we have done similar things in NA
22:59:52 * jsmith knows that he doesn't have a vote, but is +1 for it anyway
22:59:54 <herlo> which is why I already +1'd it :)
23:00:00 <cwickert> http://chemnitzer.linux-tage.de/2011/info/sponsoren/
23:00:11 <cwickert> actually we were not silver that year
23:00:25 * kaio supports this: +1
23:00:32 <cwickert> +1
23:00:36 <cwickert> more votes?
23:00:39 <yn1v> +1
23:00:45 * herlo does have a hard stop pretty quickly
23:01:09 <cwickert> #agreed Fedora will sponsor CLT with 1000 EUR and have a special event there
23:01:28 <cwickert> ok, we did it
23:01:42 <cwickert> there still is https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FAmSCo_agenda
23:01:58 <cwickert> should we go through this one, too or better clean it up first?
23:02:12 <cwickert> I mean, some of the tasks are really ancient
23:02:44 <herlo> cwickert: can we discuss these on the ml if needed and then vote on them next week as appropriate?
23:02:50 <cwickert> +1
23:02:55 <igorps> herlo, +1
23:03:03 <yn1v> +1
23:03:11 <kaio> +1
23:03:17 <cwickert> #action evaluate items from https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FAmSCo_agenda and discuss them next week
23:03:25 <cwickert> ok, anything else?
23:03:32 <herlo> great! just need to send out an email for them and we can go through them
23:03:36 <cwickert> are there any regular topics I missed?
23:03:54 <cwickert> if not, anything for open floor?
23:04:24 <cwickert> #action cwickert to go through the tickets and add today's decisions
23:04:29 <herlo> I think I'm good this time, will have more time next week
23:04:35 <cwickert> +1
23:04:36 <igorps> nothing else from me
23:04:47 <cwickert> ok then, thanks everybody for coming
23:04:51 <yn1v> nothing from my side
23:04:53 <herlo> thanks cwickert
23:04:55 <cwickert> welcome
23:05:00 <cwickert> #endmeeting
23:05:13 <cwickert> no minutes?
23:05:22 <cwickert> zodbot seems buggy
23:05:36 <nirik> hum.
23:05:39 * kaio was looking for current log but unable to find.
23:05:39 * nirik looks into it.
23:06:04 <cwickert> kaio: there is http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Zodbot#zodbot_blew_up_while_it_was_logging_my_meeting.2C_what_can_I_do.3F
23:06:13 <cwickert> hopefully we can get something logged
23:06:41 <yn1v> I do not have all the lines on xchat :( I need to set up for bigger backlog
23:06:51 <jsmith> Yeah, zodbot has been cranky today
23:06:57 * jsmith has the log, if anyone needs it
23:07:33 <jsmith> And with that -- I'm off to find some dinner
23:07:48 <yn1v> jsmith, send me the log please
23:07:56 <jsmith> yn1v: Will do.
23:08:03 <yn1v> thanks
23:08:18 * nirik is investigating.
23:08:31 * kaio dives into bed
23:10:30 <jsmith> yn1v: Sent to your gmail account.
23:10:37 <zodbot> nirik: Error: Can't start another meeting, one is in progress.
23:10:45 <nirik> .listmeetings
23:10:45 <zodbot> nirik: ('#fedora-meeting', 'freenode')
23:10:57 <yn1v> jsmith, got it. thanks
23:11:15 <nb> hmm interesting
23:11:17 <nirik> #endmeeting