05:02:47 #startmeeting i18n 05:02:47 Meeting started Thu Jan 19 05:02:47 2012 UTC. The chair is tagoh. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 05:02:47 Useful Commands: #action #agreed #halp #info #idea #link #topic. 05:02:52 #meetingname i18n 05:02:52 The meeting name has been set to 'i18n' 05:03:00 #topic agenda and roll call 05:03:11 https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/I18N/Meetings/2012-01-19 05:03:34 let's have weekly i18n meeting now. who else here today? 05:04:57 hi 05:05:12 hi 05:05:38 hi 05:06:21 hi 05:07:58 hi guys, okay, let's get started. 05:08:03 #topic F17 05:08:32 hi 05:08:36 any updates on your features? 05:08:51 hi 05:09:31 pravins: btw do you have any pointer for 22 official indian languages support? I couldn't find it out in any categories for feature pages. 05:09:33 hi 05:09:39 tagoh: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/Additional_Indic_Langs moved this feature to FeatureReadyForWrangler 05:10:03 pravins: ah, okay. thanks! 05:10:30 tagoh: welcome, hoping to get it moved to ReadForFesco soon 05:10:54 yep. added it to the agenda. 05:11:53 jni: how's fonts-tweak-tool going on? 05:13:31 tagoh, hi, i use libeasyfc to get fonts list and use Gtkcombobox to display it, also modify the language list and choose language dialog. 05:15:03 jni, is it in github or ? 05:15:06 tagoh, the next step i think is to combine them together, implement the function for "apply" button, write it fonts alias to a file 05:15:20 juhp, yeah, it is in the github 05:15:40 https://github.com/jamesni/fonts-tweak-tool 05:17:44 cool 05:17:49 okay.. 05:18:56 the feature page is still incomplete to propose. this is the main concern to move next step. I'll help some to complete it 05:19:30 aha yes please 05:19:47 jni, we need that before you go for holiday 05:20:04 jni: please update the percentage of completion as well. at least you're starting to implement it, it shouldn't be still 0%. 05:20:25 tagoh, ok 05:21:04 juhp, ok, i will update the feature page this afternoon. 05:21:10 cool 05:21:26 tagoh, thanks 05:22:55 how about IndicUnicode6? 05:24:18 tagoh: yes, that is approved now :) 05:24:26 work in going on it 05:24:32 https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/IndicUnicode6 05:25:29 sure. how much tasks you've done and you need to do so far? 05:26:07 pravins: that would be nice if you can update the page if there are any progress. 05:26:18 tagoh: yes, sure. i will update it 05:26:24 thanks 05:27:11 I have written this feature ,https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/ibus-european-table 05:27:22 please let me know your comments 05:27:31 https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/ibus-european-table 05:27:37 anish_: guess you may need to follow the format in current status to what others do? 05:28:46 tagoh, i am not getting it , i have used empty template 05:30:10 anish_: template should contains the targeted release, the last updated and the percentage of completion in current status. 05:30:45 tagoh, ohh okie i will update that 05:30:48 thanks 05:31:30 anish_, I can also help to review it this week when it is ready 05:31:50 thanks juhp 05:31:53 epico_laptop: how about libpinyin? 05:32:19 looks like we will have a lot of features this time for f17 :-) 05:32:37 libpinyin is FeatureReadyForFesco 05:32:50 and libpinyin 0.5.0 released. 05:33:40 juhp: yeah 05:34:07 epico_laptop: cool. 05:34:13 :) 05:35:13 btw any news for indic-typing-booster in f17? just wonder if we need to keep it in the agenda? 05:35:48 i am planning to release in beta version 05:36:47 we could move it under the input method topic perhaps? 05:37:04 tagoh: i was thinking to report feature for it 05:37:11 aha 05:37:23 but i guess, additional indic language and Unicode6.0 going to take my full time 05:37:43 I see 05:38:03 i will file feature for it 05:38:08 anish_: that will be nice 05:38:12 cool 05:38:22 okay. nice 05:38:29 tagoh: we have done lots of improvement for it and it deserve feature 05:38:52 anish_: i am about to complete Malayalam language support in typing booster 05:38:53 anish_, just a thought - an alternative would be to compose the typing-booster features 05:38:59 but two is fine too 05:39:08 juhp: yes, good idea 05:39:36 juhp: aha. yeah, that may be a good idea. 05:39:42 yes but indic -typing is little different 05:39:47 * juhp is not sure how many features FESCo wants to look at :) 05:39:49 anish_, true 05:39:57 ok 05:40:34 let's have two then? :) 05:40:40 yes :) 05:40:44 juhp: yes 05:40:50 but have to be quick :) 05:41:16 yes need to finish in this 05:41:19 dunno about branding but that sounds good to have one from the branding POV but not separate features, but anyway. 05:41:26 true 05:41:38 valid point 05:41:54 well have think about it anyway 05:42:09 two is not always better than one :) 05:42:47 juhp: or may be we can give update regarding ITB from i18nrelease notes? 05:42:59 lets wait for Fedora 18 05:43:18 i think by F18, we will have more language supports in ITB 05:43:48 from branding point of view https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/TypingBooster sounds stronger 05:43:52 tagoh: what you say? 05:43:55 as tagoh also suggests 05:44:11 juhp: yeah 05:44:52 one stronger feature is better than two smaller ones so maybe give it, a little more thought? 05:44:54 that can covers *-typing-booster features, including english-* and indic-* if theree are any. 05:45:01 right 05:45:11 juhp: but i think english has more audience, so better to highlight only it then 05:45:25 pravins, well people can see both 05:45:52 pravins, anyway the name was your idea... :) 05:46:19 thanks :) good to see we are moving to generic feature for fedora 05:46:33 s/to/towards 05:46:57 okay, anything else for f17? 05:46:57 well more general feature is interesting for wider audience at least 05:47:05 yes, fair enough 05:47:08 juhp: right 05:48:09 okay, let's move on then. 05:48:16 #topic Input Methods 05:48:32 any updates, news or concerns to share? 05:49:37 fujiwarat: anything from ibus? 05:49:48 ibus-european-table-1.1.5-1 is available for testing 05:50:06 i have added couple of features 05:50:19 anish_: aha 05:50:23 I like the "tab completion" :) 05:50:34 juhp, thanks 05:50:42 sounds nice 05:51:05 (Tab is now an alternative for 1 in the candidate list) 05:51:44 hmm one could also make Tab an alternative for Down perhaps? 05:52:00 ie go through the candidate list 05:52:07 juhp, that would be good idea 05:52:20 I'm implementing new ibus-gnome3 with ibus-xkb which requires rawhide gnome-shell & mutter. I try to use libgnomekbd not to use xkb directly. 05:52:33 juhp: aha. I like that one rather than behaving a shortcut of 1. 05:53:10 aha f17 has gnome-shell-3.3 05:53:16 ok 05:53:17 tagoh: yes agree 05:53:58 saw a mail that there are some breakage around gnome-shell in rawhide now btw. 05:54:01 anish_, may also be good for indic booster :) 05:54:13 I see 05:54:25 yeah I think I couldn't get gnome to startup 05:54:29 juhp, yes agree 05:54:43 yes, anish_ do add frequency based sorting as well in ITB 05:54:52 Yeah, I fixed some build issues locally. 05:54:59 aha 05:55:56 okay, good 05:56:19 anything else for IM? 05:56:23 (3.2.2 seems to be coming to f16 updates-testing too) 05:56:55 wonder if all the indicators need rebuilding for that? 05:57:05 or extensions 05:57:46 guess so because of the API changes. 05:57:51 Yeah, I think it's a bug fix. 05:58:16 ah, for updates? 05:58:21 dunno 05:59:06 Ah, I meant the 3.2.2 update. 05:59:12 anyway, if there are no updates for IM any more, let's move on then. 05:59:48 #topic Fonts and Rendering 06:00:41 mistakenly pushed new libeasyfc package for f16 updates before moving 0.3 to stable... 06:00:57 resolved bug resolved 781938 in smc-fonts 06:01:23 anyway, it fixes some bugs, good to use it anyway.. 06:01:29 it had few characters on Unicode reserved locations, so now it is Unicode compliant 06:01:58 tagoh: cool 06:02:04 pravins: cool 06:05:33 btw kurdit-unikurd-web-fonts seems orphaning though, does anyone have interests to maintain? 06:06:43 tagoh: it is for which language 06:06:51 Kurdish 06:07:15 it seems a default font for it 06:07:21 http://tagoh.fedorapeople.org/fonts/f16-defaultfonts.html 06:08:07 more details for other packages going to orphan if you haven't read yet: http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/devel/2012-January/161324.html 06:08:49 tagoh: yes, i can take it 06:08:59 nice 06:09:05 pravins: thanks! 06:09:28 I will take that font package 06:09:50 ok first one to pkgdb ;) :) 06:09:53 paragan: sure and thanks :) 06:10:02 :) 06:10:27 tagoh: nice catch 06:10:38 okay, anything else for fonts/rendering? 06:10:54 dunno if there are any other i18n-ish packages - I didn't notice any particularly 06:11:22 juhp: me neither 06:11:28 ok 06:12:01 little OT but I noticed that f14 are still open? 06:12:09 erm f14 bugs 06:12:34 juhp: yeah, not yet running auto-close this time. 06:12:37 dunno why 06:12:41 well some of them may be fonts bugs ;) :) 06:12:47 okay - maybe soon then 06:13:09 anyway 06:13:37 okay, guess better stop the meeting here then. 06:13:50 thanks everyone for the meeting! 06:14:03 thank you 06:14:18 #endmeeting