03:59:15 <bckurera> #startmeeting
03:59:15 <zodbot> Meeting started Sat Feb  4 03:59:15 2012 UTC.  The chair is bckurera. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.
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03:59:26 <bckurera> #meetingname APAC biweekly
03:59:26 <zodbot> The meeting name has been set to 'apac_biweekly'
03:59:48 <bckurera> meeting agenda can be found at
03:59:51 <bckurera> #link https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Meeting:APAC_Ambassadors_2012-02-04
04:00:09 <bckurera> #topic Ambassador Pinging
04:00:22 <bckurera> .fas bckurera
04:00:23 <zodbot> bckurera: bckurera 'Buddhika Kurera' <bckurera@gmail.com>
04:00:36 <azneita> .fas azneita
04:00:37 <dramsey> .fas dramsey
04:00:37 <zodbot> azneita: dona 'dona marie grace' <dona@azneita.org> - azneita '' <herson@azneita.org>
04:00:40 <tatica> .fas tatica
04:00:40 <bckurera> bckurera from Sri Lanka using F15
04:00:40 <zodbot> dramsey: dramsey 'David Ramsey' <diamond_ramsey@hotmail.com>
04:00:45 <zodbot> tatica: tatica 'Maria Gracia Leandro Lombardo' <tatadbb@gmail.com>
04:00:57 <dramsey> Hello Everyone!
04:01:01 <azneita> .... magie and engels should be here any minute
04:01:07 <magie> here
04:01:07 <dramsey> :D
04:01:18 <born2linux> hi
04:01:25 <MarkDude> .fas markdude
04:01:27 <zodbot> MarkDude: markdude 'Mark Terranova' <mark@gidgetkitchen.org>
04:01:43 <bckurera> #topic News from FAmSCo
04:01:44 * azneita waves to magie
04:01:57 <bckurera> I have added one news to the agenda
04:02:01 <bckurera> is there anything else?
04:02:15 <magie> .fas magie
04:02:16 <zodbot> magie: magi 'Rafal Magiera' <R.K.Magiera@wsisiz.edu.pl> - geatz87 'Bogusław Magiera' <geatz87@tlen.pl> - magie 'Magie Antonio' <magie@bluepoint.com.ph>
04:02:23 <LMartinez> .fas asmartgoat
04:02:24 <zodbot> LMartinez: asmartgoat 'Luke Martinez' <me@luke.asia>
04:02:26 <bckurera> #chair dramsey tuanta
04:02:26 <zodbot> Current chairs: bckurera dramsey tuanta
04:02:34 <born2linux> .fas engels
04:02:35 <zodbot> born2linux: engels 'Engels Antonio' <engels@bluepoint.com.ph>
04:02:38 <dramsey> Good showing today!
04:02:50 <dramsey> bckurera, sounds good
04:02:56 <bckurera> #chair azneita LMartinez
04:02:56 <zodbot> Current chairs: LMartinez azneita bckurera dramsey tuanta
04:03:14 <bckurera> please read the proposal and make your comments
04:03:18 <bckurera> #link https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User_talk:Cwickert/Proposed_FAmSCo_election_rules
04:03:38 * bckurera busy with adding chair to the meeting
04:03:48 <FranciscoD> .fas FranciscoD
04:03:49 <zodbot> FranciscoD: ankursinha 'Ankur Sinha' <sanjay.ankur@gmail.com>
04:04:06 <bckurera> #chair born2linux MarkDude FranciscoD
04:04:06 <zodbot> Current chairs: FranciscoD LMartinez MarkDude azneita bckurera born2linux dramsey tuanta
04:04:13 <FranciscoD> lol
04:04:21 <bckurera> if there is no nay news left shall we move?
04:04:46 <FranciscoD> move++
04:04:50 <bckurera> #chair magie
04:04:50 <zodbot> Current chairs: FranciscoD LMartinez MarkDude azneita bckurera born2linux dramsey magie tuanta
04:04:51 <dramsey> move
04:05:02 <bckurera> #topic Review *ACTION* items from the last meeting
04:05:32 <aolsystems_> hello guys
04:05:34 <dramsey> #chair aolsystems
04:05:34 <zodbot> Current chairs: FranciscoD LMartinez MarkDude aolsystems azneita bckurera born2linux dramsey magie tuanta
04:05:37 <bckurera> AI 1 : bckurera ships swag soon as possible
04:05:51 <aolsystems_> born2linux: hello
04:06:06 <aolsystems_> azneita: hello
04:06:10 <dramsey> Hi aolsystems
04:06:11 <bckurera> This is in progress; shipped to Ph yesterday
04:06:24 <bckurera> AI 2: update your F17 release parties to the wiki at https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/F17_release_events
04:06:24 <dramsey> +1 bckurera
04:06:30 <aolsystems_> dramsey: +1
04:06:37 <azneita> thanks bckurera
04:06:39 <born2linux> hi aolsystems
04:06:41 <LMartinez> #chair harish
04:06:42 <zodbot> Current chairs: FranciscoD LMartinez MarkDude aolsystems azneita bckurera born2linux dramsey harish magie tuanta
04:06:49 <dramsey> +1 bckurera
04:06:54 <bckurera> I think all will update info in the wiki
04:07:05 <bckurera> AI 3: Suresh draft a process which can help to push the APAC plan forward
04:07:12 <FranciscoD> bckurera: keep adding them as tasks/ideas please, for the logs :)
04:07:13 <bckurera> I cannot see suresh here today
04:07:34 <bckurera> FranciscoD +1
04:07:36 * FranciscoD cant either :P
04:07:58 <bckurera> any other concerns?
04:08:19 <bckurera> #action All FAms, update your F17 release parties to the wiki at https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/F17_release_events
04:08:26 <bckurera> shall we move then?
04:08:35 <dramsey> +1
04:08:41 <bckurera> #topic APAC Trac for Regional Support
04:08:51 <bckurera> #link https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-apac/ticket/14
04:09:11 <bckurera> I have no updates from the reporter but I saw harish is clearing the payments
04:09:19 <bckurera> #link http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/india/2012-January/005150.html
04:09:29 <bckurera> above is the update from mether
04:09:41 <bckurera> harish anything to note please?
04:09:42 <FranciscoD> ah, is this the ticket I filed?
04:09:44 * FranciscoD goes to look
04:09:59 <bckurera> yeas FranciscoD it is your ticket
04:10:24 <FranciscoD> bckurera: harish has completed international reimbursements
04:10:35 <bckurera> #info please add meeting keyword when you file a ticket at apac trac to make it traceable
04:10:37 <FranciscoD> mether said he'll do the India specific ones as soon as he's back in office
04:10:40 <bckurera> you got the fund?
04:10:49 <FranciscoD> not yet, Rahul isn't back yet
04:10:50 <bckurera> ok nice
04:11:08 <bckurera> yeas FranciscoD can you close the ticket then with proper note
04:11:34 <FranciscoD> We can just leave the ticket open for the time being? I'll close it when everyone's received their reimbursements?
04:11:41 <aolsystems_> pls anyone update me if  the FUDCONhas already been awarded?thanks
04:11:46 <bckurera> sounds good
04:11:55 <bckurera> can we move forward guys?
04:11:59 <dramsey> +1
04:12:09 <bckurera> #topic APAC Events
04:12:14 <dramsey> bckurera perfect!
04:12:25 * bckurera --> today meeting move fast
04:12:36 <FranciscoD> fast++
04:12:42 <bckurera> Next APAC FUDCon 2012[likely it will happen['China' or 'Malayisia' or 'Philippines']]
04:13:00 <azneita> it's more fun in the philippines :D
04:13:04 <bckurera> #link https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FedoraEvents#FY12_Q4_.28December_2011_-_February_2012.29_2
04:13:28 <bckurera> I had organized an event last January thats all what we did recently
04:13:43 <bckurera> Udinnet and hasithakj represented the event
04:13:53 <bckurera> any updates?
04:14:09 <bckurera> KageSenshi updated about their FAD
04:14:17 <FranciscoD> Some Ambassadors in Bangalore are taking a workshop someplace this Sunday. I've asked them for more details, such as blog posts etc.
04:14:29 <dramsey> +1 for KageSenshi's and others FADs.
04:14:32 <bckurera> #link https://plus.google.com/u/0/109153510244556917522/posts/R9QP5Tdnepn
04:14:40 <bckurera> #link https://plus.google.com/u/0/109153510244556917522/posts/LYupFAJJPEy
04:14:51 <bckurera> Please go through pictures while the report will be ready
04:14:54 <FranciscoD> I've received a request for a workshop later this month from an institute
04:15:00 <bckurera> great work my fedorians
04:15:12 <dramsey> bckurera, I think to hear about Philippine's ideas for FUDCon APAC would be good.  What do you think?
04:15:34 <FranciscoD> but I'm unsure if we'll make it. The workshop is part of an event, which seems highly commercialized
04:15:51 <bckurera> Thats good dramsey
04:15:55 <dramsey> I think that would be good since last time, only Malaysia's input onlly heard.
04:15:58 <dramsey> Cool
04:16:07 <bckurera> sorry but I missed the last meeting where FUDcon bit was discussed
04:16:08 <dramsey> azneita, magie and engels, do you have any input for FUDCon in Philippines?
04:16:22 <dramsey> bckurera, i know you review logs
04:16:22 <azneita> magie is running point for much of our bid, she's here :)
04:16:53 <bckurera> dramsey I read but I saw you all agree with my bid with #agree
04:17:19 <bckurera> anyway I think we can listen magie thats good
04:17:33 <magie> thanks
04:17:36 <magie> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FUDCon:Bid_for_Philippines_2012
04:18:00 <magie> the group's main concern right now is timing
04:18:06 <bckurera> #link https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FUDCon:Bid_for_Philippines_2012
04:18:33 <tatica> !
04:18:38 <dramsey> #chair FranciscoD_
04:18:38 <zodbot> Current chairs: FranciscoD FranciscoD_ LMartinez MarkDude aolsystems azneita bckurera born2linux dramsey harish magie tuanta
04:19:05 <azneita> yes, tatica
04:19:08 <tatica> I would recomend not going on July first week since might colide with FUDcon LATAM. eof
04:19:13 <FranciscoD_> dramsey: this nicks only for backup, in case my other connection lags too much :P
04:19:27 <azneita> noted tatica
04:19:35 <bckurera> thanks tatica
04:19:49 <MarkDude> #chair tatica
04:19:49 <zodbot> Current chairs: FranciscoD FranciscoD_ LMartinez MarkDude aolsystems azneita bckurera born2linux dramsey harish magie tatica tuanta
04:19:54 <tatica> oh
04:19:56 <tatica> :$
04:20:13 <magie> thanks tatica
04:20:35 <FranciscoD> #info FUDCon APAC: recomend not going on July first week since might colide with FUDcon LATAM.
04:20:46 <magie> we have a wide range of date to choose from
04:21:03 <dramsey> I think Philippines has had many FADs and other Linux events.  This is a strong advantage as well as good team.
04:21:05 <magie> and are quite flexible for other schedules
04:21:30 <born2linux> !
04:21:50 <bckurera> magie when you finish enter 'eof'
04:21:59 <bckurera> then we can go for others
04:22:26 <azneita> born2linux, please
04:22:39 <magie> bckurera: i am not yet finished
04:23:02 <bckurera> magie : please go ahead and when finish let us know with eof - thanks
04:23:20 <born2linux> go ahead magie
04:23:55 <born2linux> i think bckurera is in a hurry
04:24:17 <FranciscoD> always good to keep meetings short :)
04:24:37 * bckurera :)
04:24:48 <magie> in that case, eof
04:26:06 <bckurera> born2linux please
04:26:24 <bckurera> if you want more time please take it magie, no problem
04:26:57 * azneita also would like to note that for this year, bluepoint cleared their schedule to help us coordinate for this bid
04:28:04 <dramsey> +1
04:28:05 <bckurera> please input ideas and data
04:28:09 <azneita> this means we'll have a dedicated team on the ground doing the coordinating
04:28:25 <azneita> if ever the bid goes our way
04:28:42 <bckurera> !
04:28:48 <azneita> the main points of our bid are in the bid page
04:29:00 <azneita> how about you guys ask us your concerns
04:29:09 <azneita> eof
04:29:16 <bckurera> how many dedicated contributors in number azneita
04:29:20 <bckurera> eof
04:29:47 <FranciscoD> How about we spend some time thinking up, and bring up our concerns in the next meeting? It isn't really easy to think and question on the fly, might miss a lot.
04:30:01 <azneita> fair enough
04:30:15 <azneita> i guess we can move on then
04:30:18 <azneita> :)
04:30:19 <FranciscoD> azneita: please add an action item :P
04:30:23 <dramsey> For next meeting on February 18th, I think there is great opportunity to have FUDCon APAC in Philippines, what are your best points for conducting there?
04:30:24 <bckurera> We can move to ML as well - fudconplanning ML
04:30:29 <dramsey> +1
04:30:58 <born2linux> bckurera seems to be very excited about ml
04:31:19 <FranciscoD> born2linux: more people, more time to think and write
04:31:20 <bckurera> please add an action item azneita
04:31:35 <dramsey> Unfortunately, I "strongly" think that by the next meeting the "decision" will have been made.
04:31:50 <bckurera> born2linux : ML are really good so that we can think a lot and write comprehensive ideas +1 FranciscoD
04:32:08 <FranciscoD> dramsey: +1,
04:32:13 <FranciscoD> we'll do it asap on the ML then
04:32:14 <azneita> bckurera, sorry missed the whole action thing
04:32:23 <tatica> !
04:32:37 <bckurera> Dramsey I need to clarify then, still APAC took no decision where to host next fudcon
04:32:40 <bckurera> am I right?
04:32:57 <bckurera> tatica please
04:32:59 <tatica> does APAC as team take the decition on the next FUDCon location or go through FAmSCo? (is mostly a latam doubt that I have). eof
04:33:11 <born2linux> i just wish there's equal time for everyone
04:33:25 <FranciscoD> FAmSCo makes recommendation to the FPL iirc
04:33:38 <FranciscoD> after going through bids etc
04:33:41 <azneita> that's about it FranciscoD
04:33:53 <tatica> kk, so same guidelines. thx :)
04:34:35 * bckurera confused
04:34:40 <azneita> since APAC will come before LATAM, we need to come up with a decision fast
04:34:52 <azneita> :)
04:34:58 <tatica> after
04:35:11 <tatica> Latam will go on June/July
04:36:40 <bckurera> is there any ideas? floor is empty
04:36:51 <bckurera> move or discuss more about this?
04:37:24 <FranciscoD> next++
04:37:33 * FranciscoD notices we've gone slow again
04:37:50 <bckurera> shall we move azneita?
04:37:52 * harish i am back
04:38:11 <azneita> yeah, let's move.
04:38:26 <bckurera> #topic Status of F17 Release Parties
04:38:47 <bckurera> If anyone needs time please use open floor slot
04:38:49 <FranciscoD> !
04:38:59 <bckurera> please FranciscoD
04:39:27 <FranciscoD> I haven't exactly planned the Release party completely, but I intend to get the Bangalore ambassadors together and cut a fedora cake *at least*
04:39:43 * FranciscoD will update the events page etc, as soon as the plan is cemented
04:39:55 <bckurera> #link https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/F17_release_events
04:40:10 <bckurera> nice idea FranciscoD +1
04:40:23 <bckurera> anyother ideas?
04:40:30 <FranciscoD> please remember to take as many pictures as you can, for every event you do
04:40:36 <FranciscoD> and reports are a must :)
04:40:37 <MarkDude> Are people calling them F17 parties? Or Beefy Miracle celebrations?
04:40:41 <FranciscoD> EOF
04:40:57 <FranciscoD> MarkDude: well, I'd get slaughtered for calling it beefy miracle celebrations here in India
04:41:06 <FranciscoD> so I'll stick to F17 parties ;)
04:41:26 <bckurera> I like Beefy Miracle celebrations +1
04:42:02 * FranciscoD heard quite a few Indian Ambassadors werent really happy with beefy miracle too, (cultural issues)
04:42:11 <MarkDude> We had Beefy Miracle party- and made sure folks knew vegetarian stuff would be there
04:42:15 <dramsey> #link https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/F17_release_events
04:42:16 <kaio> Hi
04:42:17 <bckurera> FranciscoD : Events reports are a must for getting funds so write them
04:42:18 <dramsey> #chair kaio
04:42:18 <zodbot> Current chairs: FranciscoD FranciscoD_ LMartinez MarkDude aolsystems azneita bckurera born2linux dramsey harish kaio magie tatica tuanta
04:42:23 <kaio> Hehe
04:42:39 <FranciscoD> MarkDude: the menu isn't important, just calling it beefy miracle will get me beaten up at places
04:42:43 * FranciscoD wants to live :P
04:42:54 <FranciscoD> reports++
04:43:06 <MarkDude> Fair enough FranciscoD
04:43:06 <bckurera> understand FranciscoD
04:43:39 <bckurera> Please start planning about swags and media as well
04:43:48 <dramsey> +1 bckurera
04:43:52 <bckurera> producing them early will give you much comfort
04:44:04 <FranciscoD> earlier the better
04:44:05 <bckurera> any more to add to this topic before leaving this?
04:44:07 <kaio> ++
04:44:18 <FranciscoD> if theres nothing more to add, lets move
04:44:24 <kaio> Agree
04:44:34 <dramsey> F16 LiveCDs available with Harish, please contact for your needs.
04:44:41 <LMartinez> +1 dramsey
04:44:49 <bckurera> #topic APAC Plans for 2012 (Suresh)
04:44:50 <bckurera> we miss suresh today
04:45:07 <bckurera> any updates?
04:45:17 <LMartinez> #info If anybody requires a OLPC please email me @luke.asia :)
04:45:20 <FranciscoD> nah, don't think so
04:45:20 <LMartinez> ^^ :)
04:45:37 <FranciscoD> LMartinez: ah, I was under the impression that you need to buy them in bulk?
04:45:43 <bckurera> wow nice to have ome LMartinez
04:45:50 <LMartinez> No, i have one in my possession
04:45:58 <FranciscoD> ah, okay :)
04:46:14 <dramsey> Is that a #info ?
04:46:14 <FranciscoD> bckurera: nothing from suresh, please move ahead
04:46:25 <bckurera> shall we move
04:46:29 <kaio> Ok
04:46:32 <FranciscoD> yes, move++
04:46:35 <bckurera> #topic Fedora and Red Hat System Administration Study Group for Ambassadors (dramsey)
04:46:39 <bckurera> it is dramsey's
04:46:49 <dramsey> latest information
04:46:51 <dramsey> #link https://github.com/herlo/sysadminSG
04:47:26 <dramsey> I am trying to get another opportunity for those interested to try out the Amazon EC2 images for Study Group.
04:47:27 <dramsey> eof
04:47:41 <FranciscoD> nice dramsey :)
04:47:47 <bckurera> others?
04:48:09 <bckurera> move?
04:48:12 <dramsey> +1
04:48:13 <FranciscoD> yes
04:48:28 <bckurera> #topic Teach fedora using Videos campaign (ankursinha)
04:48:38 <FranciscoD> #link https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Niteshnarayan/video_tutorials#Fedora_Videos_Team
04:48:39 <bckurera> our topic tatica franciscoD
04:48:46 <FranciscoD> aye
04:48:57 <FranciscoD> this is also to teach people more, using videos
04:49:19 <FranciscoD> I'd like more folks to help out, specially to submit more videos :)
04:49:25 <FranciscoD> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Ankursinha/Video_locations_analysis
04:49:47 <FranciscoD> These are the locations that we are considering
04:49:53 <FranciscoD> needs to be finalized in this weeks meeting
04:50:12 <FranciscoD> tatica will send out a reminder. Please keep an eye out for it :)
04:50:29 <bckurera> we are having meetings on Thursdays; 1530 UTC
04:50:43 <FranciscoD> if you've already done stuff like this before, please help us out :)
04:50:45 <FranciscoD> eof
04:50:53 <bckurera> tatica anything to add?
04:50:53 <MarkDude> And does anyone have video edting skills?
04:51:19 <tatica> sry, had to move
04:51:26 <FranciscoD> #info Need folks with video editing skills
04:51:30 <dramsey> Sounds like a #info #idea or #action
04:51:34 <dramsey> +1 FranciscoD
04:51:34 <FranciscoD> #info need video editing software
04:51:39 <tatica> no, pls keep watching mail list and wiki page
04:51:40 <bckurera> please tatica we are waiting for you
04:51:50 <tatica> all need will be welcome (and we need a lot)
04:52:01 <tatica> I will be bloging shortly about it
04:52:01 <FranciscoD> #info Keep an eye on Mailing Lists for progress on fedora videos
04:52:01 <tatica> eof
04:52:08 * FranciscoD will too
04:52:30 <bckurera> #info Please share created fedora video with the video team to add them to the wiki
04:52:37 <bckurera> move then??
04:52:37 <tatica> !
04:52:40 <FranciscoD> #info If you've made a screencast, send it to us. TODAY! :)
04:52:43 <bckurera> please tatica
04:52:52 <tatica> oh, pls.. if you're helping or interested on contribute, add yourself
04:53:04 <tatica> will make easier to get in touch if we know who wants to be part of this
04:53:04 <tatica> eof
04:53:14 <FranciscoD> tatica++
04:53:39 <bckurera> shall we move then?
04:53:51 <FranciscoD> yes
04:54:10 <magie> +1
04:54:15 <born2linux> +1
04:54:18 <dramsey> +1
04:55:26 <dramsey> #chair bckurera_
04:55:26 <zodbot> Current chairs: FranciscoD FranciscoD_ LMartinez MarkDude aolsystems azneita bckurera bckurera_ born2linux dramsey harish kaio magie tatica tuanta
04:55:38 <FranciscoD> bckurera_: next please :P
04:55:38 <bckurera_> thanks lost the connection
04:55:46 <bckurera_> #topic Fedora Participation
04:55:52 <bckurera_> no owner for the topic anyway
04:56:23 <bckurera_> any ideas or next topic?
04:57:04 <MarkDude> !
04:57:05 <bckurera_> shall we move?
04:57:05 <dramsey> Just ideas bckurera_ we may move forward
04:57:14 <bckurera_> please MarkDude
04:57:29 * MarkDude really thinks the international part of Fedora is underplayed
04:57:34 <MarkDude> as in -
04:57:41 <MarkDude> it is one of my favorite parts
04:57:51 <MarkDude> And when talking to people locally
04:58:11 <MarkDude> they like the idea of interacting with people a long way away
04:59:00 * MarkDude thinks that brainstorming ideas can happen on Google + and other ways for folks to reach out
04:59:03 <MarkDude> eof
04:59:13 <dramsey> +1
04:59:18 <bckurera_> can you add this as an idea MarkDude
04:59:39 <MarkDude> Sure
04:59:45 <bckurera_> thanks
05:00:24 <bckurera_> then are we moving?
05:00:27 <MarkDude> #idea Brainstorm ideas to help international interaction
05:00:31 <dramsey> +1
05:00:37 <dramsey> Yup, move forward
05:00:39 <MarkDude> ++
05:00:46 <bckurera_> #topic Open Floor
05:00:51 <FranciscoD> !
05:00:58 <bckurera_> we can discuss the bids here as well
05:01:05 <dramsey> +1 bckurera_
05:01:06 <bckurera_> FranciscoD please
05:01:09 <azneita> thanks, the main difference between PH and other bids is that we have bluepoint willing to take a large role for our FUDCon bid
05:01:17 <FranciscoD> I wanted your input on this:
05:01:32 <azneita> bluepoint is an NGO which has been big for us
05:01:49 <azneita> serving as hubs for many if not all our local events
05:01:50 <born2linux> +1
05:02:03 <born2linux> bluepoint has been promoting fedora since core 1
05:02:05 * FranciscoD will wait for the FUDCon discussion to finish :)
05:02:18 <bckurera_> azneita +1 ; i heard blueprint, they are behind most of the events in PH
05:02:39 <azneita> with them having a larger role in this bid, we'll have resources and manpower that otherwise we would not have
05:02:43 <magie> thanks FranciscoD :)
05:02:59 <azneita> they cleared their schedule for us this year
05:03:00 <bckurera_> other please discuss if you want to raise anything
05:03:28 <born2linux> bluepoint has been conducting foss events for almost 13 years now
05:03:54 <magie> back to what i was trying to say earlier
05:04:10 <bckurera_> yeas magie please go for it
05:04:13 <tatica> !
05:04:48 <magie> bluepoint will support fudcon ph and has allocated resources this year
05:05:22 <magie> hence the timing aspect of the bid
05:05:45 * bckurera_ thinking of two FUDcons per year in APAC, who is supporting?
05:05:46 <azneita> yes tatica
05:05:58 <tatica> even if is important to have a big sponsor. I think you need to choose your FUDCon location based on: is people making a chance to Fedora? - will this even give them more oportunities to grow as community? - will we find more contributors in here?
05:05:59 <tatica> eof
05:06:13 <tatica> s/chance/change
05:06:14 <tatica> sry
05:06:25 <azneita> tatica, yes
05:06:44 <born2linux> thanks tatica, this has been considered
05:07:38 <azneita> in our past events, we have tremendous feedback about fedora and i believe there is room to grow
05:07:55 <born2linux> we are making our first bid because there is a large potential base of contributors in ph
05:08:17 <azneita> our local community is now at 74 and has continued to grow
05:08:29 <born2linux> as you may have noticed, there are only ~5 active fedora contributors from ph at this time
05:08:48 <born2linux> we would like to raise this number significantly
05:09:24 * harish would like to know what the ~5 active contributors are
05:09:49 <azneita> also, FOSS events in the philippines tend to be smallish
05:09:52 * bckurera_ listed on the bid page I think
05:10:08 <harish> thanks.
05:10:09 <azneita> having abig event like a fudcon here will drum up interest
05:10:22 <dramsey> +1
05:10:26 <magie> +1
05:10:29 <born2linux> +1
05:10:42 <kaio> Yes
05:10:51 <born2linux> there are a lot of folks just waiting to participate, especially from the academe
05:11:35 <azneita> it will also be a good venue for professionals needing a venue to come together
05:11:46 <azneita> i think lei pointed that out when we last met
05:12:44 <magie> i would like to add that the country's top 2 universities are the proposed venues for this bid
05:13:25 * harish would like to comment on this
05:13:32 <azneita> yes harish
05:13:52 <harish> looking at the bid document, i don't think the cost of airfare is as written in.
05:14:07 <born2linux> ?
05:14:16 <azneita> let me check
05:14:22 <born2linux> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FUDCon:Bid_for_Philippines_2012#Estimated_Cost_of_Flights
05:14:25 <harish> also could you include the ~5 contributors?
05:14:47 <harish> i doubt i can get a US$43 flight from SG to PH.
05:14:55 <harish> but i could be wrong.
05:15:00 <azneita> one-way flight?
05:15:21 <harish> would be good to put some links - i suspect those are the budget carriers who bring you to clark
05:15:35 <harish> again, i could be wrong
05:15:41 <azneita> will do that harish
05:15:49 <harish> do update the flight costs.
05:15:50 <harish> thanks.
05:15:51 <azneita> thanks for pointing it out
05:15:59 <born2linux> these are naia rates
05:16:14 <harish> born2linux, airline?
05:16:17 <born2linux> we don't want to fetch attendees from clark, too long a drive
05:16:30 <harish> not to belabour the point, we can get the wiki clarified.
05:17:10 <harish> as for other contacts: have you approached the IOSN folks in PH?
05:17:24 <born2linux> we are partnering with cebu pacific for asia flights harish
05:17:49 <born2linux> yes harish
05:18:14 <born2linux> anything else?
05:18:14 <harish> born2linux, ok. do put that info on the wiki please.
05:18:26 <harish> IOSN contacts?
05:18:44 <dramsey> +1
05:18:50 <born2linux> we've been talking with eloy since august last year
05:18:58 <harish> ok.
05:19:07 <born2linux> azneita will update the wiki ;)
05:19:12 <harish> what about marcelo at the uop
05:19:28 <born2linux> alvin marcelo?
05:19:31 <harish> yes
05:19:44 <born2linux> eloy == marcelo
05:19:49 <born2linux> sorry
05:19:50 <harish> ah so :-). thanks.
05:19:54 <born2linux> used to suing his nickname
05:20:02 <born2linux> s/suing/using/
05:20:18 * harish lol on freudian slip perhaps :-)
05:20:28 <born2linux> :)
05:21:13 <harish> are you looking at running the event as a barcamp or predefined speaker slots?
05:21:30 <harish> the wiki is silent on that
05:21:49 <harish> fudcon pune was predefined not barcamp-style
05:21:56 <harish> we can have a mix.
05:22:06 <azneita> past experience points to that
05:22:14 <magie> +1, we are are evaluating options
05:22:17 <harish> north american FUDcons are barcamp style
05:22:20 <azneita> predefined slots will work better for students
05:22:42 <azneita> barcamp works for contributors more
05:22:46 <magie> we're thinking of predefined speaking slots for the first 2 days
05:23:00 <harish> ok.
05:23:22 <harish> do put in a proposed schedule and number of tracks as well
05:23:30 <dramsey> +1
05:24:01 * azneita is taking notes of stuff to update, keep them coming
05:24:42 <harish> when you do put up an agenda, do put in (since some of this is predefined) some speakers that people would want to come listen to.
05:24:52 <kaio> Wanna meet up u guys so much.
05:25:10 <harish> helps in the promotion of it (once the decision is made)
05:25:44 <azneita> yep
05:27:02 <azneita> don't want to be a party pooper but we're over the time limit already
05:27:06 <aolsystems_> :)
05:27:06 <harish> so next few steps for all bids, i think, would be to get an agenda, get some speakers lined up. get a call for papers written up, get tentative location details confirmed as much as possible
05:27:15 <azneita> yes harish
05:27:41 <magie> +1, thanks everybody for listening to us ph folks
05:27:56 <dramsey> +1 great input and ideas indeed
05:27:57 <azneita> but we'll need to have a decision for that, i think
05:28:05 * bckurera_ it is a pleasure magie
05:28:19 <magie> thanks again
05:28:28 <dramsey> I strongly believe that the PH bid for FUDCon APAC consists of both a great support team & structure as well as experience for this FUDCon APAC bid.  :)
05:29:34 <bckurera_> I strongly suggest to bring this conversation to ML (fudconplanning) so that others will contribute with their ideas.
05:29:38 <harish> key thing to note is that if you can get as much written into the bid document, even if you don't get to host it. that becomes the basis for the next attempt.
05:29:41 <bckurera_> shall we wind up then?
05:29:52 <bckurera_> sorry harish go on
05:29:57 <dramsey> +1 harish
05:29:59 <harish> :-)
05:30:01 <azneita> +1
05:30:06 <magie> +1
05:30:07 <born2linux> +1
05:30:09 <aolsystems_> +1
05:30:12 <LMartinez> +1
05:30:13 <bckurera_> +1
05:30:29 <kaio> +1
05:30:49 <harish> since we are all doing this for the first time (other than in Pune) we need to make the bid as solid as possible
05:31:23 <harish> pune had one advantage - there is a red hat office there. so rahul could lean on help.
05:31:48 <azneita> for ph, we have bluepoint :)
05:31:51 <harish> other than in Singapore and Malaysia, the other SEA countries don't have a Red Hat office for some help.
05:32:03 <aolsystems_> azneita: +1
05:32:11 <harish> yes, i know that bluepoint can help and i say thank you to them.
05:32:23 <aolsystems_> :)
05:32:30 * bckurera_ remembers Sri Lanka Redhat initiative past
05:33:00 <harish> just for transparency, how many bids are there today?
05:33:04 <harish> ph, my and cn?
05:33:14 <azneita> yep
05:33:23 <aolsystems_> yes
05:33:29 <bckurera_> #link http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FUDCon:Bid_for_Beijing_2012
05:33:38 <bckurera_> #link http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FUDCon:APAC_2012_Bid_Malaysia
05:33:45 <bckurera_> #link https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FUDCon:Bid_for_Philippines_2012
05:34:31 <LMartinez> #info Beijing, Malaysia and Philippines are bidding for FUDCon 2012.
05:34:46 <harish> and none of the CN folks are on this chat - other than kaio
05:35:30 <bckurera_> ideas?
05:35:57 * bckurera_ China FAms hardly can be found at the meetings
05:36:31 <harish> yes. that's a pity. we need to find another channel/time to have them on.
05:36:53 <kaio> Fedora zh met last night.
05:36:55 <bckurera_> harish +1
05:37:09 <born2linux> +1
05:37:27 <harish> kaio, what's your gut feel on CN's bid?
05:37:44 <LMartinez> Agreed, Timezones are difficult to deal with.
05:38:13 <harish> CN, SG, PH, MY are all in the same time zone :-)
05:38:37 <LMartinez> haha xD
05:38:44 <kaio> Do u have a firm date?
05:39:01 <harish> kaio, for fudcon?
05:39:09 <kaio> If I can get my leave sorted, it helps.
05:39:14 <kaio> Yes fudcon.
05:39:29 <kaio> My batt is 10% draining.
05:39:40 <harish> it is upto the bidding process and i think jared did indicate a slot for APAC
05:40:22 <harish> bckurera_, perhaps we can take the rest of this bid discussion to the ml
05:40:28 <harish> and close this meeting
05:40:32 <dramsey> +1
05:40:39 <dramsey> I appreciate all input
05:40:41 <bckurera_> strongly agree with harish
05:40:43 <born2linux> on a parting note, ph will support cn and my if they get to host fudcon
05:40:45 <azneita> me too
05:40:52 <born2linux> +1
05:41:07 <magie> +1
05:41:11 <bckurera_> thanks all ideas
05:41:15 <kaio> Everyone in cn just like me - they have to prepare leave, before ans the possibilities.
05:41:19 <azneita> you guys can also hit me on IRC for any ideas
05:41:25 <dramsey> Thank you all for attending and bckurera for chairing
05:41:30 <harish> +2
05:41:46 <bckurera_> shall we conclude the meeting if there is no nay concern left then?
05:41:47 <kaio> Kk
05:41:58 <bckurera_> who bring this to ML
05:42:07 <bckurera_> please assign an action item
05:42:10 <harish> those who are bidding
05:42:35 <azneita> ok
05:42:35 <bckurera_> azneita kio KageSenshi please bring this to ML, fudconplanning
05:42:37 <bckurera_> agree?
05:42:43 <kaio> Gtg my phone is sleeping.
05:42:43 <azneita> agreed
05:42:53 <bckurera_> thanks
05:42:57 <bckurera_> then we are closing the meeting
05:43:07 <bckurera_> I ll update the wikis
05:43:07 <kaio> Thx guys.
05:43:22 <bckurera_> #ink https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Meeting:APAC_Ambassadors_2012-02-18
05:43:22 <magie> thanks everyone :)
05:43:30 <bckurera_> placeholder for next meeting agenda
05:43:41 <bckurera_> thanks for everyone who participated actively
05:43:53 <bckurera_> I can see the APAC spirit please keep it going
05:43:56 <bckurera_> thanks
05:43:57 <bckurera_> 5
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05:44:11 <tatica> booooom!
05:44:11 <bckurera_> thanks again
05:44:11 <bckurera_> 0.5
05:44:14 <bckurera_> #endmeeting