05:00:38 #startmeeting i18n 05:00:38 Meeting started Thu Feb 16 05:00:38 2012 UTC. The chair is tagoh. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 05:00:38 Useful Commands: #action #agreed #halp #info #idea #link #topic. 05:00:40 #meetingname i18n 05:00:40 The meeting name has been set to 'i18n' 05:00:45 %topic agenda and roll call 05:00:50 #topic agenda and roll call 05:00:57 https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/I18N/Meetings/2012-02-16 05:01:16 time to have i18n meeting 05:01:33 hi 05:03:18 hi 05:03:47 hi 05:04:01 hi 05:06:11 hi 05:07:09 okay, let's get started then. 05:07:17 #topic F17 05:09:10 well, the alpha change deadline was two days ago, RC2 is now available. 05:09:53 we should change the target to beta so far if there are anything. 05:10:58 most our features are still not 100% complete. please update what's going on and share if there are any issues hard to accomplish it. 05:11:56 hi 05:12:26 anish_: how about english-typing-booster? 05:13:01 yes it working very well. i will mark as 100% completion 05:13:12 anish_: cool 05:14:14 jni: guess only concern is the review though 05:14:29 tagoh, yeah, still not get feedback 05:14:57 hi 05:15:12 if anyone can take it over, that would be helpful though... 05:15:58 epico_laptop: how about libpinyin ? 05:16:44 hi 05:16:54 pravins: hi 05:16:54 libpinyin 0.5.91 got into f17. 05:17:04 great 05:17:12 and improves the ibus-pinyin.spec 05:17:13 thanks 05:18:34 epico_laptop: what do you need to do anything else to make your feature 100% completion? 05:18:55 maybe fixes bugs. 05:19:00 change it to 95%? 05:19:21 what kind of bugs do you have? 05:19:54 * epico_laptop waits for bugs from users. 05:20:42 is it so important to consider the contingency plan if any? 05:21:00 currently not 05:21:14 most old bugs are fixed, or work around it. 05:21:28 then good to mark it as 100%. 05:21:32 feature complete doesn't necessarily mean bugfree :) 05:21:39 ok, update it now 05:21:54 thanks, I see. 05:22:17 pravins: how about the additional indic langs? 05:22:39 tagoh: yes, Santali and Manipuri locales are now in Fedora rawhide 05:22:46 cool 05:22:54 i am reporting fontconfig upstream bugs in Fedora 05:23:02 plan is to create tracker bug for feature 05:23:20 I see 05:23:24 but for some fontconfig bugs need to create patch and also need to provide valid references 05:23:49 presently fontconfig bugs going to mclasen :) 05:24:10 tagoh: dunno at the end can we make it as a blocker for feature 05:25:04 guess not 05:25:38 no props 05:27:27 pravins: however if it meets any criteria you can propose. please read the release criteria on wiki 05:27:38 yes, sure 05:28:00 how about unicode 6.0 ? 05:28:00 Beta change deadline is 2012-03-20, so i think by that time everything should be in Fedora, right? 05:28:37 working in Lohit upstream, next week will release it. 05:29:03 actually features should be in by Alpha 05:29:20 and then polish for Beta 05:29:28 pravins: yes, but all of accepted feature should be available in alpha. 05:30:19 how much time do i have for pushing it to Alpha? 05:30:53 deadline was Tuesday this week :( 05:31:25 no props, we have some part of feature already in. 05:32:10 but by Beta, will try to complete it 100% 05:32:11 I guess the feature owners should had a notification via email for imcompletion. 05:34:39 maybe have to see how much can be done by Alpha release time? 05:34:39 btw the amount of rawhide bugs is about to over 100 now. we should change the focus to bug fixing now. 05:34:49 oh 05:35:44 juhp: good idea, Zero day update. 28 Feb is Alpha release. I think by that time we will have Unicode 6.0 ready 05:35:59 and Additional language also in good shape 05:36:43 and good to think about docbeats for beta too. 05:36:53 https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Documentation_I18n_Beat 05:37:22 wiki freeze is 12th of March. 05:39:09 I think the features will be caught up by alpha though, need to fill it with others if any. 05:39:42 we can add there newly added locale info 05:40:27 is it something not provided in the feature page? 05:41:38 anyway, feel free to update the wiki if you think it's useful information for relnotes. we could polish it later. 05:41:45 anything else for f17? 05:44:03 paragan: yes, need to update that page 05:44:43 ok 05:44:47 will do that 05:45:09 okay, let's move on then. 05:45:11 paragan: thanks, i will create tracker bug today 05:45:18 #topic Input Methods 05:45:31 any updates or concerns to share? 05:46:22 submitted package ibus-hunspell-table for review 05:46:34 ibus-1.4.1-1.fc16 is available in updates-testing 05:47:59 fujiwarat: doesn't it require rebuilding all of the engines? 05:48:59 tagoh: I hope not. 05:49:36 okay 05:51:18 anything else ? 05:53:56 better move on then. 05:54:03 #topic Fonts and Rendering 05:54:25 any updates or concerns to share? 05:54:52 tagoh: i have done progress on Liberation fonts hinting bug 05:55:03 .bug 714191 05:55:05 pravin_s: Bug 714191 Glyph '1' not the same width as other numerals - https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=714191 05:55:14 .bug 715309 05:55:19 pravin_s: Bug 715309 [hinting] Bold 'u' looks skinny - https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=715309 05:55:34 so these bugs will soon go away from rawhide bug list :) 05:55:46 cool 05:56:02 Also marathon bug of ucs-miscfixed-fonts 05:56:09 .bug 597403 05:56:11 pravin_s: Bug 597403 usc fonts are outdated - https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=597403 05:56:24 nice 05:56:44 build it for rawhide and Fedora 17, at least now we have updated upstream tarball, so if no one argues i will close it soon 05:57:10 okay, good 05:57:36 and last one is also resolved lohit bugs 766493, 770691 in upstream, so after upstream release we can close these 05:58:11 great 05:58:15 thanks 05:59:24 tagoh: one more thing w.r.t fontconfig 05:59:56 i think, we are not sure how to add ortho file for locale with sd_IN@DEVANAGARI yet 06:00:02 was checking https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17208 yesterday 06:00:04 well, the updated rpm is finally pushed to the stable though, just noticed that it doesn't add fonts(:lang=..) thing properly in some cases. so I reopened the bug and updated. we can't go rebuiding packages yet... 06:00:58 paragan: did you tested it any time? locale with script name? 06:01:07 changes to rpm must be tested before pushing I guess. Like in this case fixed rpm got regression with its new update 06:01:08 pravin_s: okay.. I think fontconfig doesn't support the modifier so far. it needs to be fixed first in upstream. 06:01:31 pravin_s, no will see it 06:01:54 tagoh: paragan we have two locales with script modifier :( 06:02:05 sd_IN@deva and ks_IN@deva 06:02:39 no props, will discuss offline 06:03:00 that may take some time. 06:04:06 tagoh: yeah, if normal .orth file bugs taking so much time, we can accept how much time it will take to code fixes ;) 06:04:17 s/accept/expect 06:05:04 sure 06:05:09 well, anything else ? 06:06:34 if not, let's stop here then. 06:07:20 thanks everyone for the meeting! 06:07:25 #endmeeting