05:12:20 <tagoh> #startmeeting i18n
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05:12:26 <tagoh> #meetingname i18n
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05:12:31 <tagoh> #topic agenda and roll call
05:12:36 <pravins> hi
05:12:39 <tagoh> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/I18N/Meetings/2012-03-01
05:13:02 <juhp> hi
05:13:07 <tagoh> sorry for late start. shall we have i18n meeting
05:13:21 <fujiwarat> hi
05:13:21 <anish_> hi
05:14:21 <pravins> yes
05:14:34 <tagoh> let's get started.
05:14:37 <tagoh> #topic F17
05:15:51 <tagoh> as you know f17 alpha is out. next coming event we may need to pay attention would be the translation deadline at March 13.
05:16:12 <juhp> aha
05:16:23 <juhp> is there a i18n testday this time?
05:16:56 <tagoh> not yet checking slots..
05:17:45 <dingyichen> hi
05:18:21 <juhp> seems l10n one is soon
05:18:39 <juhp> next week I think
05:18:42 <pravins> tagoh: was discussing with aman regarding i18n test day
05:18:49 <tagoh> pravins: aha
05:18:52 <tagoh> juhp: right
05:19:06 <aalam> yes, l10n test day is on March 07, on Wednesday
05:19:07 <tagoh> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Day:2012-03-07
05:19:39 <aalam> propose i18n for 15March, but seems it is now with 'Gnome Shell and Extensions'
05:19:48 <juhp> might be good to have another ibus testing session
05:20:17 <juhp> aalam, any other slots available? :)
05:20:33 <juhp> before beta would probably be good if possible
05:20:37 <tagoh> juhp: after RC only
05:20:38 <aalam> 2012-04-26 or later:-(
05:20:42 <juhp> ah
05:21:02 <juhp> hm we probably need to be a bit quicker next time...
05:21:13 <juhp> should we take that then?
05:21:14 <aalam> but we can do on Wednesday if need
05:21:18 <juhp> ah
05:21:31 <juhp> same day as l10n?
05:21:45 <juhp> could be good
05:22:07 <aalam> March 14?
05:23:01 <tagoh> is it still possible to have non-planned slots?
05:23:15 <juhp> aha
05:23:17 <aalam> yes, it is possible if needed
05:23:29 <tagoh> aha. that's good.
05:24:33 <aalam> https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-qa/ticket/271#comment:7 reply by adamw
05:24:47 <adamw> yeah, non-thursday slots are fine
05:26:01 * juhp ponders renaming "2012-03-07	 i18n L10N" to just L10N
05:26:29 <tagoh> juhp: maybe
05:26:33 <juhp> what about the scope for the test-day?
05:27:16 <pravins> juhp: all features and new changes i.e. improvement done in ibus for control-space
05:27:26 <juhp> great
05:27:56 <tagoh> guess we may need to update testcase a bit then?
05:27:59 <juhp> fujiwarat, or do you want to have separate ibus testday?
05:28:16 <juhp> it is also an option I guess - someone has to organize of course...
05:28:29 <pravins> tagoh: yes, aalam has drafted few points yesterday for IndicUnicode6.0 https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/I18N/FLTG/TestCase_IndicUnicode6
05:28:38 <juhp> gives more focus though at least
05:28:41 <tagoh> juhp: let me file a ticket to have i18n test day.
05:28:46 <juhp> great
05:28:47 <tagoh> pravins: great
05:28:56 <aalam> juhp: I created SIG page for i18n/l10n Testing, https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/I18N/FLTG
05:29:06 <aalam> tagoh: can we not use same ticket?
05:29:40 <tagoh> aalam: I don't mind either if it works.
05:29:52 <fujiwarat> petersen: Hmm.., I'm not sure.
05:29:57 <juhp> aalam, nice
05:30:42 <aalam> actually I started with all 3 proposal (installation,l10n,i18n) in single ticket
05:30:52 <tagoh> okay
05:32:27 <epico_laptop> hi
05:32:51 <aalam> SIG group idea is to prepare Test day and create Test cases regularly
05:33:03 <tagoh> anyway, thanks for your attention on test days. hope we won't miss it next release and nice to have it earlier.
05:33:05 <aalam> hope next release we can do better way
05:33:33 <tagoh> aalam: sounds promising.
05:33:43 <pravins> aalam: yes sure, will be in better situation :) thanks a lot
05:35:54 <tagoh> for feature progress, we still need some updates for indic features.
05:36:13 <tagoh> pravins: do you want to update for them?
05:36:30 <pravins> tagoh: yes, i will build all lohit fonts today for fedora, upstream work is done now
05:36:36 <pravins> so IndicUnicode will be 100%
05:36:40 <tagoh> cool
05:37:15 <pravins> for Additional language all things are in only fontconfig remaining
05:37:48 <tagoh> well, trying to coordinate a new release in next week hopefully...
05:38:33 <pravins> that will be great, thanks a lot for commiting patches in upstream :)
05:39:05 <pravins> tagoh: should i add language groups in comps file?
05:39:20 <tagoh> ah
05:39:21 <pravins> looks like notting planning to remove language-support groups from comps
05:39:45 <tagoh> well, if there are any packages better installed as well?
05:40:33 <pravins> yes for some languages we required inscript2
05:40:34 <tagoh> dunno. it contains non-langpacks packages too. wondering how he covers it with langpack plugin
05:41:48 <pravins> hmm, in that case i will go ahead with addition of groups in comps
05:42:24 <tagoh> since we don't have any conclusion to get rid of it from comps, please go ahead.
05:42:27 <juhp> ?
05:43:13 <juhp> inscript2 is not in m17n*?
05:43:50 <pravins> juhp: no, it is packaged separate presently
05:43:56 <juhp> aha
05:44:09 <juhp> I see
05:44:12 <tagoh> anything else for f17?
05:44:53 <pravins> __anish__: anything on engine-typing-booster feature?
05:45:06 <__anish__> english-typing-booster is 100% complete
05:45:23 <__anish__> i am working on ibus-hunspell-table
05:45:38 <__anish__> it works well with us-english language
05:46:04 <__anish__> i am working on to add support for indic languages for ibus-hunspell-table
05:46:14 <tagoh> aha
05:46:52 <__anish__> dueno, has provided libtraslit library
05:47:42 <pravins> tagoh: yes, in Fedora 18 we are again going to get some new feature on predictive text input :)
05:47:50 <__anish__> is uses m17n dadabase , https://github.com/ueno/libtranslit
05:48:21 <tagoh> pravins: sure. good
05:49:34 <tagoh> okay, shall we move on?
05:49:48 <pravins> yes
05:49:54 <tagoh> #topic Input Methods
05:52:45 <tagoh> keybinding issue has been discussed in the previous fesco meeting and decided that we should treat ibus running in non-desired locales as bugs. no further step into this issue from fesco.
05:54:12 <juhp> cool
05:56:28 <tagoh> latest imsettings that would tries logging more is in f17 now. so we could take care of this to investigate if someone else still faces this.
05:56:41 <juhp> :)
05:57:15 <tagoh> in most cases what we can say may be to recommend removing $HOME/.xinputrc though.
05:57:51 <tagoh> anything else updates or concerns for IM?
05:59:08 <tagoh> fujiwarat: how about ibus?
06:01:42 <fujiwarat> I'm working on ibus-anthy porting mainly. Some bug fixes for ibus were upstreamed.
06:02:42 <tagoh> aha. any fixes or updates are needed for new ibus?
06:05:05 <fujiwarat> Ah, some fixes are already included in the fedora ibus and others were filed in redhat bugzilla recently.
06:05:41 <tagoh> aha
06:07:04 <tagoh> well, I meant updates for ibus-anthy porting :) wanted to know some details.
06:07:17 <tagoh> anyway, anything else for IM?
06:07:30 <fujiwarat> Ah, OK, I mean to port pygtk2 to pygobject3.
06:07:36 <fujiwarat> for ibus-anthy.
06:07:51 <tagoh> ah, okay. I see.
06:08:18 <tagoh> okay, better move on then.
06:08:27 <tagoh> #topic Fonts and Rendering
06:08:37 <tagoh> any updates or concerns to share for fonts and rendering?
06:09:37 <tagoh> except indic fonts - as pravins has already talked about it a bit the above.
06:10:33 <tagoh> dueno: have you tried alpha for korean btw? would be nice to check if the default font is really changed..
06:10:59 <dueno> tagoh: not yet, will try now
06:11:04 <tagoh> cool
06:11:58 <tagoh> anything else?
06:13:06 <tagoh> if not, let's stop here then.
06:14:13 <tagoh> okay, thanks everyone for the meeting!
06:14:16 <tagoh> #endmeeting