05:04:23 <tagoh> #startmeeting i18n
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05:04:26 <tagoh> #meetingname i18n
05:04:26 <zodbot> The meeting name has been set to 'i18n'
05:04:35 <tagoh> #topic agenda and roll call
05:04:45 <tagoh> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/I18N/Meetings/2012-03-08
05:04:55 <tagoh> hi guys. time for i18n meeting.
05:06:18 <__anish__> hi
05:06:19 <paragan> hi
05:06:29 <lijli> hi
05:06:39 <dueno> hi
05:07:56 <pravins> hi
05:09:12 * juhp is here :)
05:10:10 <tagoh> okay, let's get started.
05:10:16 <tagoh> #topic F17
05:11:19 <tagoh> fyi, beta tc1 is available now. next coming event is the software translation deadline at March 13 and wiki freeze for docbeats at March 12.
05:11:48 <tagoh> so we need some volunteers to polish docbeats by next Monday.
05:11:48 <juhp> oh
05:12:31 <tagoh> for translation, you may need to update translations and build against it after that.
05:13:57 <tagoh> for https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/Additional_Indic_Langs, I'm planning to have a new release of fontconfig in this week. dunno if it's still acceptable to push it for fedora but anyway.
05:14:24 <tagoh> anything else related to f17 so far?
05:14:43 <pravins> tagoh: thanks, i will test it. :)
05:14:52 <tagoh> pravins: thanks!
05:16:18 <pravins> tagoh: how about i18n test day?
05:16:20 <tagoh> ah, also test days for i18n desktop at March 14: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Day:2012-03-14
05:17:46 <tagoh> good to revisit and update testcases for that if any - need your help for particularly one what you are relevant to.
05:18:59 <tagoh> juhp: can you check langpack testcases?
05:20:18 <tagoh> any volunteers for browser testcase?
05:20:53 <__anish__> i will test browser test cases
05:21:01 <tagoh> __anish__: thanks!
05:21:25 <tagoh> #action __anish__ will check browser testcase
05:21:30 <__anish__> tagoh, welcome :)
05:22:05 <tagoh> jni_: you may want to add fonts-tweak-tool thing to font application testcase?
05:22:21 <tagoh> any volunteers for input application?
05:22:29 <jni_> tagoh, ok
05:22:35 <tagoh> jni_: cool
05:22:44 <jni_> tagoh, thanks
05:22:49 <tagoh> #action jni_ will updates font application testcase
05:23:20 <tagoh> for input method?
05:23:29 <pravins> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:Testcase_i18n_font_application do we still use system-config-language for setting language?
05:23:51 <juhp> tagoh: ok
05:24:15 <tagoh> pravins: should still works though, maybe good to add another testcases too.
05:24:21 <tagoh> juhp: thanks!
05:24:36 <tagoh> #action juhp will check langpack testcases
05:25:14 <tagoh> I'll have a look at input method one if no one takes
05:25:22 <pravins> tagoh: yeah, system-setting-> regional-language
05:25:33 <tagoh> pravins: right
05:25:49 <tagoh> #action tagoh will check input method testcase
05:26:10 <tagoh> guess fujiwarat may want to update for ibus?
05:26:12 <__anish__> well there is only one test case for  browser "This test is to check if the browsed pages are displayed and printed out correctly. "
05:27:15 <tagoh> __anish__: good to add more and polish as needed of course.
05:27:36 <__anish__> hmm
05:28:57 <tagoh> anyway, that would be nice to finish updating testcases by tomorrow or in this weekend.
05:30:17 <tagoh> anything else for f17?
05:31:37 <tagoh> okay, better move on then.
05:31:42 <tagoh> #topic Input Methods
05:31:49 <tagoh> any updates or concerns to share?
05:35:26 <tagoh> nope?
05:36:16 <juhp> fujiwarat is not in the channel
05:37:06 <tagoh> sure
05:38:49 <tagoh> hm, well we could get back here later maybe.
05:39:02 <tagoh> #topic Fonts and Rendering
05:39:34 <tagoh> http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/fonts/2012-March/001412.html
05:40:02 <tagoh> well, complaint for the assignment of WQY Zen Hei Sharp to monospace.
05:40:21 <tagoh> dunno if we have WQY Zen Hei Mono packaged? anyone know about it?
05:41:25 <tagoh> or we could add WQY Micro Hei to monospace as suggested?
05:42:26 <juhp> hmm epico is away today
05:42:33 <tagoh> good to note it as todo then.
05:42:41 <juhp> yes
05:43:08 <pravins> tagoh: presently for sd language, both Arabic and Devanagari listed together
05:43:14 <tagoh> #info need to think about changing monospace for Chinese: http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/fonts/2012-March/001412.html
05:43:37 <tagoh> pravins: aha
05:43:47 <juhp> seems to me that zh has higher priority than ja in f17
05:43:51 <pravins> actually it should be for "sd  -> PakType Nashk Basic Sindhi" and for "sd@devanagari -> Lohit Devanagari"
05:44:05 <juhp> well just from basic testing
05:45:19 <pravins> tagoh: i think when @modifier will work proper in fontconfig this can give better result
05:46:03 <tagoh> pravins: sure. have to postpone that then. hmm.
05:46:30 <pravins> yes sure.
05:46:42 <tagoh> or you have an option to get rid of sd from Lohit Devanagari maybe. new fontconfig allows us to do it.
05:47:46 <tagoh> pravins: see 3c862aad's commit log for syntax.
05:48:35 <tagoh> anything else?
05:48:50 <pravins> tagoh: thanks, will look at it.
05:49:24 <tagoh> juhp: dunno if we have any changes for priority. let me check later.
05:49:35 <juhp> ok
05:50:01 <juhp> not particularly complaining :)  but just a counter-observation
05:50:10 <tagoh> sure
05:50:20 <juhp> I think zh has been before ja for some releases
05:50:28 <juhp> anyway
05:51:38 <tagoh> okay, better move on then.
05:51:55 <tagoh> #topic Open Floor
05:52:59 <tagoh> fujiwarat: i18n test days are planned next Monday though, we need to make sure if testcase is up to date. guess you may want to update ibus testcase for some features?
05:53:40 <fujiwarat> I thought today is Wednesday by mistake.
05:53:57 <fujiwarat> tagoh: Yes, right.
05:53:59 <tagoh> also would be nice if you can update any outdated information too
05:54:14 <VICODAN> Hi, how are we doing with the beta blockers?
05:54:38 <tagoh> fujiwarat: thanks
05:54:53 <tagoh> #action fujiwarat to update ibus testcase
05:55:54 <tagoh> VICODAN: any bugs you are concerned?
05:55:58 <juhp> fujiwarat, also if you could provide brief highlights for ibus changes to https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Documentation_I18n_Beat
05:56:18 <juhp> for the release notes that would be helpful - this week
05:56:31 <tagoh> juhp: yeah, thanks
05:56:36 <VICODAN> tagoh: updates-testing repo and preupgrade.
05:57:17 <VICODAN> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=800205
05:57:26 <VICODAN> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=799174
05:57:35 <VICODAN> also BTRFS with anaconda
05:57:39 <juhp> VICODAN, I haven't tried preupgrade much yet for f17 - I think usually it doesn't using updates-testing?
05:57:49 <juhp> but this is the i18n meeting :)
05:57:51 <VICODAN> preupgrade is unrelated to updates-testing repo
05:57:56 <VICODAN> sorry
05:57:58 <juhp> ah right
05:58:03 <juhp> that's ok
05:58:39 <tagoh> #action fujiwarat to update docbeats for ibus
05:58:41 <juhp> VICODAN, you could also try #fedora-qa perhaps
05:58:51 <VICODAN> juhp: im in the triagers group
05:59:01 <tagoh> anything else prior to close the meeting?
05:59:01 <VICODAN> just saw you all talking about f17
05:59:01 <juhp> though probably bit quiet now - ah nice
05:59:04 <VICODAN> disregard what i said
05:59:07 <juhp> VICODAN, :)
05:59:13 <juhp> np
05:59:41 <juhp> great lots of action items this week :-)
06:00:06 <fujiwarat> Probably I'll integrate ibus-1.4.99.20120304-2 with engines into bodhi today.
06:00:19 <tagoh> maybe I was lazy to note actions ;)
06:00:51 <tagoh> fujiwarat: aha
06:03:06 <tagoh> if no topics anymore, let's close the meeting shortly.
06:04:22 <tagoh> okay, thanks everyone for the meeting!
06:04:25 <tagoh> #endmeeting