17:00:01 <nirik> #startmeeting IRC Support SIG (2012-03-08) 17:00:01 <zodbot> Meeting started Thu Mar 8 17:00:01 2012 UTC. The chair is nirik. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 17:00:01 <zodbot> Useful Commands: #action #agreed #halp #info #idea #link #topic. 17:00:01 <nirik> #meetingname irc-support-sig 17:00:01 <nirik> #topic init process 17:00:01 <zodbot> The meeting name has been set to 'irc-support-sig' 17:00:12 <nirik> morning folks. Who's around for an irc support sig meeting? 17:00:20 * Sonar_Gal 17:01:05 * che_ waves 17:01:11 * DiscordianUK is 17:01:38 * FranciscoD is here 17:02:06 <nirik> likely a short meeting unless something exciting comes up. ;) 17:02:12 <nirik> #topic Week in review 17:02:12 <nirik> http://fedora.theglaserfamily.org/ircstats/fedora-weekly.html 17:02:28 <nirik> pretty normal week over all. 17:03:20 <DiscordianUK> Been quietish 17:03:26 * FranciscoD came in 3rd! yeah! 17:03:35 <dailylinux> nirik, you discuss every week about how the activity is on the #fedora? 17:03:39 <Sonar_Gal> FranciscoD, 4th 17:03:57 <FranciscoD> 3rd :( 17:04:13 <nirik> dailylinux: yep. 17:04:28 <nirik> anything to note over the last week... common support problems, etc 17:04:43 <dailylinux> nirik, ok. I see. What's this rating for? 17:04:46 <nirik> sometimes we can see a pattern of a bug or type of bug. 17:04:50 <DiscordianUK> ATI is a common issue 17:04:58 <DiscordianUK> at the moment 17:05:03 <che_> DiscordianUK, the proprietary driver? 17:05:12 <dailylinux> ATI grahpic card drivers? 17:05:14 <DiscordianUK> People using the ati one yes 17:05:23 <nirik> dailylinux: in the link above? thats number of lines typed per nick. ;) Mostly just a note of who is the most active. 17:05:24 * FranciscoD isnt sure what we can do about it 17:05:29 <che_> do they have problems with the rpmfusion packages? 17:05:37 <DiscordianUK> rather than the rpmfusion one 17:05:43 * nirik recommends against catalyst these days. Almost no one has good luck with it. 17:05:47 <dailylinux> nirik, yes. Ah, i see :) 17:05:48 <che_> ah script driven installs 17:05:54 <che_> nirik, it wfm 17:06:04 <che_> nirik, with a hd 6950 you dont have too much choice atm 17:06:15 <FranciscoD> the rpmfusion package has build issues or something, right? 17:06:21 <DiscordianUK> No people just go to ATIs site 17:06:22 * FranciscoD remembers reading something 17:06:26 <nirik> che_: I know about 5 people now who it works for, but see about 50 that fail to get it working on #fedora. ;) 17:06:38 <che_> nirik, send them to me ;) 17:06:45 <nirik> FranciscoD: yes. 17:06:45 <che_> nirik, i can check what the cause is i guess 17:06:52 <nirik> che_: ok. happy to. ;) 17:06:57 <DiscordianUK> The rpmfusion driver breaks with gnome3 17:07:01 <nirik> FranciscoD: yes. 17:07:08 <nirik> https://bugzilla.rpmfusion.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2208 17:07:09 <FranciscoD> well, someone needs to step up and take it up in rpmfusion 17:07:13 * FranciscoD is happy with nvidia 17:07:16 <DiscordianUK> We know that 17:07:18 <FranciscoD> never used ATI 17:07:29 <Sonar_Gal> ^^ 17:07:38 * FranciscoD looks at the bug 17:08:21 <FranciscoD> hrm, I could try to fix it, but no clue how I'll test it without hardware 17:08:32 * FranciscoD wouldnt know how to test it even if he had hw though XD 17:08:33 <nirik> anyhow, any other things of note last week? 17:08:36 <DiscordianUK> I don;t see what rpmfusion could do 17:09:01 <DiscordianUK> They just repackage the ati stuff in a more friendly way 17:09:09 <FranciscoD> aye 17:09:31 <FranciscoD> nirik: I havent seen any issues on the channel 17:09:39 <DiscordianUK> I have 17:09:42 <FranciscoD> no trolls, no loss of temper (fortunately) 17:09:50 * FranciscoD listens to DiscordianUK 17:09:57 <DiscordianUK> quite frequently this week 17:10:08 <nirik> DiscordianUK: what issues? something you would like to bring up? 17:10:20 <DiscordianUK> Just the ATI thing 17:10:59 <nirik> ah, right, ok. 17:11:07 <DiscordianUK> The problem is that gnome3 doesn't work well with either the ati one or the rpmfusion one 17:11:27 <FranciscoD> anyone tested 17 with ATI? 17:11:28 <DiscordianUK> I can't point at any other common trends 17:11:34 <FranciscoD> how does that work? 17:11:40 <nirik> well, radeon works pretty well, but not so great on very new cards. (as che mentioned) 17:12:12 <DiscordianUK> I use radeon 17:12:33 <nirik> anyhow, moving along 17:12:35 <DiscordianUK> Though in fact catalyst works for me with XFCE 17:12:35 <nirik> #topic Tickets 17:12:36 <nirik> https://fedorahosted.org/irc-support-sig/report/1 17:12:41 <nirik> no tickets this week 17:12:47 <nirik> #topic Open Floor 17:12:52 <nirik> Anyone have anything for open floor? 17:13:27 <DiscordianUK> I think the beta TC1 for f17 has shipped 17:13:46 <nirik> F17 beta has shipped, yes. 17:13:49 <nirik> alpha 17:13:50 <Sonar_Gal> DiscordianUK, Yes It has 17:13:51 <nirik> sorry 17:13:59 <FranciscoD> nirik: alpha, right? 17:14:08 <DiscordianUK> So are we gonna do normal trend for F17? 17:14:09 <FranciscoD> ah, yes, alpha 17:14:09 <nirik> yeah, ENOTENOUGHCOFFEE 17:14:18 <DiscordianUK> Sorry my error 17:14:31 * FranciscoD will update as soon as 17 goes beta 17:14:36 <nirik> yeah, our same process... we can start supporting things after beta. 17:14:42 <DiscordianUK> So support after we ship beta 17:14:44 <DiscordianUK> yes 17:14:59 <nirik> which is around a month out 17:15:01 <nirik> 2012-04-03 17:15:10 * DiscordianUK nodz 17:15:13 <Sonar_Gal> wow no tickets again this week 17:15:23 <DiscordianUK> yeah if it doesn't slip 17:15:42 * VileGent 17:15:58 <nirik> DiscordianUK: we shipped alpha on time for the first time in many releases. ;) 17:16:22 <FranciscoD> yay! 17:16:38 <DiscordianUK> I think adamw said it was the roughest alpha we've done in a while 17:16:52 <nirik> he did, but it seems about normal to me. ;) 17:16:59 <FranciscoD> yeah, 17:17:03 * FranciscoD is running it on virt 17:17:29 <DiscordianUK> So lets hope we make the beta deadline 17:17:34 <nirik> yep. 17:17:40 <Sonar_Gal> agreed 17:17:41 <nirik> ok, if nothing else will close out in a minute... 17:17:47 <DiscordianUK> and ship gold on time 17:17:55 <DiscordianUK> I'm done 17:17:56 <nirik> thanks for helping everyone, and keep up the great work. 17:18:16 <FranciscoD> do remember to update your aliases as f17 comes up :) 17:19:01 <nirik> thanks everyone. 17:19:03 <nirik> #endmeeting