15:03:00 #startmeeting kde-sig -- http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/SIGs/KDE/Meetings/2012-03-13 15:03:00 Meeting started Tue Mar 13 15:03:00 2012 UTC. The chair is jreznik. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 15:03:00 Useful Commands: #action #agreed #halp #info #idea #link #topic. 15:03:09 #meetingname kde-sig 15:03:09 The meeting name has been set to 'kde-sig' 15:03:20 #topic Roll Call 15:03:25 * rnovacek is here 15:03:30 party! oh, just a boring meeting. 15:03:48 Present. 15:03:58 #action let's have a party! 15:04:06 * than is present 15:04:50 ltinkl will probably skip the meeting, he has to take care about his child this week... 15:05:36 #info jreznik rnovacek rdieter Kevin_Kofler than present 15:05:44 #chair rnovacek rdieter Kevin_Kofler than 15:05:44 Current chairs: Kevin_Kofler jreznik rdieter rnovacek than 15:05:53 #topic Agenda 15:08:06 anything to add to agenda? 15:08:11 4.8.1 15:09:10 already there 15:10:21 for firstboot theming - no news, trying to reach mgracik, still no pong from him, I'll continue poking 15:11:34 Maybe systemd shutdown/restart/user switching support, but we already covered it on #fedora-kde pretty much. 15:12:03 (FYI, I committed some fixes which I hope will make at least shutdown/restart work, build for Rawhide now running, no F17 build yet.) 15:12:03 but makes sense to have at least log and status for folks 15:13:07 so let's start, we can add more agenda on the fly 15:13:16 #topic 4.8.1 status 15:13:18 Kevin_Kofler: I'll test here in a jiffy locally 15:14:52 for me, both 4.8.1 on f16/f17 seems like working without any issues 15:15:33 What's up with the smooth-tasks rebuild/fix? 15:15:50 I think rnovacek is working to update that to the fork that works/builds 15:16:01 Kevin_Kofler: it's done, I rebased it with smooth-tasks-fork 15:16:11 seems to be working so far 15:16:29 We'll also want to pull in kdelibs-4.8.1-2 for the Nepomuk crash fix, if it works. 15:16:38 #info rnovacek rebased smooth-tasks to use smooth-tasks-fork 15:16:58 #info rdieter put kdelibs-4.8.1-2 build into kde-testing repo for feedback 15:17:11 I tested kmail + kdelibs-4.8.1-2 a bit this morning. so far so good. 15:17:37 only bad thing I noticed is that the kmail account wizard ... lacked magic and didn't work. 15:17:48 I had to configure imap/smtp accounts by hand 15:18:23 Oh krap! ;-) 15:18:53 Why does kdepim always have to break SOMETHING? :-( 15:18:59 was going to wait to see if I could reproduce on my f16 before filing any bugs, but if others can test that... 15:20:00 in short, I enter my email address, account password, click next... and "finish" button appears, but nothing actually happens, as far as I could tell (tried 3 times, before doing it all manually) 15:20:32 was trying to configure for gmail/imap, if that matters. 15:21:42 #info GwenviewPart/Ark issue was finally addressed upstream, already in our latest batch in updates-testing. 15:21:56 Anything else about 4.8.1? 15:22:04 yay, thanks for testing that one (I hadn't yet) 15:22:34 fyi, for better or worse, I queue'd the f17/kde-4.8.1 update for stable yesterday. 15:22:37 for how long we want to have it in testing? if no other issues appers 15:22:45 rdieter: +1 15:22:45 I didn't test it, but IIRC nucleo did. 15:22:47 f16 one is still in -testing of course. 15:23:39 Ark preview works with gwenview-4.8.1-2.fc16.i686 15:23:46 so, new f17/kde-4.8.1 related builds no will soon no longer need f17-kde koji tag/target (I'll remove it soon) 15:23:51 nucleo: Right, thanks for testing! 15:23:59 and f17 updates can be filed separately. 15:24:03 For F16, I'd say get the kdelibs fix and the smooth-tasks rebuild in, then push to stable, we have prereq karma (+2) already. 15:24:28 sounds like a plan 15:24:39 maybe another day or 2 of testing, but yeah 15:25:04 I'd be uncomfortable lobbing a largely untested kdelibs-4.8.1-2 into stable right away 15:25:19 #info nucleo confirmed gwenview fix 15:25:50 #info f17/kde4.8.1 queued for stable, f17-kde build will be removed soon 15:26:14 OK, next topic? 15:26:22 #info f16/kde4.8.1 still in updates-testing 15:26:38 #topic systemd shutdown/restart/user switching support 15:26:52 Kevin_Kofler: if you could recap the current status for meeting logs... 15:27:24 OK, so I wrote a patch, the first 2 iterations didn't compile, now it compiles, but it didn't work. ;-) I think I should have at least the easy and most important part (shutdown/restart) working now. 15:27:34 But it's pending testing. 15:28:10 User switching is much more complex, there might still be bugs left in there. 15:28:29 * rdieter will test new patch, as soon as meeting is over and I can restart my kde session here 15:28:47 Kevin_Kofler: is the package with the patch built in koji? 15:28:55 * rdieter thinks only a rawhide build so far 15:28:56 It's building for Rawhide now. 15:29:05 #info shutdown/restart should be working with latest iteration of code, user switching is more complex 15:29:15 (There's another Rawhide build from yesterday, but that one didn't work. ;-) ) 15:29:29 #action to test the latest kde/systemd code 15:29:52 Kevin_Kofler: i will test it later today 15:30:27 to test, use gdm loginmanager to log into kde, and see if leave -> shutdown/restart menu items are present and work 15:31:51 #info to test, use gdm loginmanager to log into kde, and see if leave -> shutdown/restart menu items are present and work 15:32:14 FYI, I'm planning to put the patch on KDE ReviewBoard once it's confirmed working. (I hope we can get the user switching support to work too.) 15:32:45 Then we'll see if it passes the ossi test. ;-) 15:33:47 Kevin_Kofler: good luck! 15:34:37 Kevin_Kofler: have fun with Oswald :) 15:35:03 He always finds something to complain about in submitted patches, so I'm sure this will be no exception. 15:35:20 * rdieter volunteers to be sacrificial middle-man, if needed. 15:35:58 Next topic? 15:36:20 how's the systemd support in lightdm? 15:37:22 good question, though I'd guess it doesn't have much integration yet 15:37:23 On the DM side, none should be needed, there's none in KDM either and the systemd developers say the PAM module should be sufficient. 15:37:49 On the session side, the same shutdown/restart code used with GDM is also used with LightDM. 15:38:04 (I think user switching is different though.) 15:38:04 ok 15:38:14 * rdieter has to step away for a bit (sorry) 15:38:39 So I don't think there's anything in particular to do for LightDM. 15:38:42 rdieter: ok, np - not sure we have more to talk about 15:39:00 Yeah, I think we're out of topics anyway. :-) 15:40:04 hello, I have a topic 15:40:14 I don't have time to maintain PySide packages anymore 15:40:14 Yes? 15:40:21 would someone be willing to pick them up? 15:40:26 kalev: I can do it 15:40:39 * jreznik is interested in pyside and uses it sometimes 15:40:47 ok, I'll orphan them in pkgdb then, thanks 15:41:03 btw lightdm kde seems like still enhancing http://www.sharpley.org.uk/blog/an-update-on-lightdm-kde 15:44:09 Anything else? 15:44:18 I guess we can close the meeting hereā€¦ 15:44:44 #topic open floor 15:49:25 so now topics, let's close it :) thanks guys 15:49:29 #endmeeting