19:13:29 <rbergeron> #startmeeting Cloud SIG
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19:13:33 * gholms gives rbergeron a #meetingtopic
19:13:37 <rbergeron> #meetingname Cloud SIG
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19:13:42 <rbergeron> #topic Roll Call
19:13:49 <rbergeron> dude, I see mrhinkle and that FRIGHTENS ME :)
19:13:50 * mull here
19:13:55 <gholms> You can use #meetingtopics to fix meetings when you forget to supply stuff to #startmeeting
19:14:11 * jsmith lurks
19:14:17 <rbergeron> gholms: thank you sir
19:14:56 <mrhinkle> rbergeron, I am just here to see how you big time OSS project leaders do it ;)
19:15:07 <rbergeron> mrhinkle: mmhmmm, right
19:15:24 <rbergeron> mrhinkle: i start right by being on the telephone and arriving 15 minutes late
19:15:41 <mrhinkle> rbergeron: then cussing like sailor ?
19:15:52 <rbergeron> yes
19:15:57 <rbergeron> precisely, though that's my status quo
19:16:02 * mrhinkle takes notes
19:16:04 <rbergeron> okay, let's get started, i just harassed people to join
19:16:06 <jforbes> heh
19:16:29 <rbergeron> #topic Eucalyptus
19:16:34 <rbergeron> #chair gholms
19:16:34 <zodbot> Current chairs: gholms rbergeron
19:16:52 <rbergeron> mull: want to talk or shall i :)
19:17:05 <mull> rbergeron, hmmm
19:17:13 <mull> so...
19:17:20 * rbergeron was just going to mention your ongoing future-ish plans
19:17:34 <mull> status is that eucalyptus dep packaging is _almost_ done
19:17:53 <mull> and then we'll start the long process of getting eucalyptus itself reviewed for rawhide
19:18:28 * rbergeron nods
19:18:29 <mull> however, due to release timelines, we're not aiming to be an official F17 feature at this point
19:18:47 <rbergeron> mull: so i need to take you off of the featurelist then.
19:19:01 <jforbes> mull: shouldn't matter, with new packages, you can be added to F17 after the release even
19:19:21 <mull> jforbes, right, we absolutely intend to be added to F17 after release
19:19:29 <mull> like, probably a week or two after
19:19:49 <rbergeron> but do we want to advertise "EUCA COME AND GET IT" if it's not going to be for a few weeks, i guess is the question
19:20:09 <rbergeron> or maybe that's "EU-CA-HUM AND GET IT"
19:20:17 <gholms> Heh
19:20:52 <rbergeron> becuase that's 3.0 and not 3.1, is that right?
19:20:56 <rbergeron> or have i already screwed that up in my mind
19:21:06 <mull> rbergeron, what goes into F17 will be 3.1
19:21:43 <mull> 3.0 stuff *might* end up in rawhide as a placeholder (if we can get it past review)
19:22:20 * gholms expects heavy patching to be required
19:22:36 <mull> I'm worried that our current organization of files won't pass the guidelines
19:22:53 <mull> so we might no be able to get anything 3.0-ish through review
19:22:59 <rbergeron> mull: i guess I am trying to sort out if we want to advertise, or not so much, and that's realy about your comfort level. If you guys want to hang loose on the marketing till F18 that is fine.
19:23:04 <rbergeron> mull: /me nods
19:23:10 <rbergeron> or we can do the wait and see game a bit.
19:23:28 <mull> rbergeron, let's wait and see how the next couple of weeks go.
19:23:30 <rbergeron> I'm just getting to the point where I'm writing beta release-type tihngs and don't want to make promises.
19:23:33 <rbergeron> right
19:23:36 <rbergeron> okay. that seems reasonable
19:24:25 <rbergeron> okay, then... hang loose it is.
19:24:36 <rbergeron> but it still looks like progress which is nice :)
19:25:06 <rbergeron> okay, onwards I will go to the roulette wheel since we have lack of humans today
19:25:13 <rbergeron> #topic Images/etc.
19:25:17 <rbergeron> dgilmore: are you around?
19:26:05 <rbergeron> [she watches gholms craft funny statements in brackets]
19:26:24 <gholms> rbergeron: I don't have to do that any more now that you've got it covered.
19:26:24 <rbergeron> YES! ncst and cinci won
19:26:31 * rbergeron updates her brackets brackets
19:26:48 <rbergeron> #topic Open Floor
19:27:18 <rbergeron> Okay, so, normally i'd harass ke4qqq about cloudstack but I got an update yesterday (things are moving well) and I don't want to subject mrhinkle to the same torture
19:27:28 <gholms> Heh
19:27:37 <rbergeron> spstarr and opennebula have promised information ... later today?
19:27:42 <mull> rbergeron, did ke4qqq say he was going to review my packages?
19:27:44 <rbergeron> russellb: are you about?
19:27:49 <russellb> yup
19:28:12 <rbergeron> mull: I don't think I asked him about your packages. I just asked him how they were doing on their stuff.
19:28:14 <mrhinkle> ke4qqq believes he'll have all the packages ready thanks to the Euca folks
19:28:30 * rbergeron passes out marshmallows and sings kumbaya
19:28:30 <mull> rbergeron, well I packaged some of their deps.  :)
19:28:40 <mull> ke4qqq will hopefully review them
19:28:41 <rbergeron> russellb: any openstack news to share?
19:29:00 <rbergeron> other than: We will have a shared mini-booth-space at their conference, that is now confirmed, probably on thursday/friday
19:29:27 <rbergeron> mrhinkle: that is my understanding as well
19:29:44 <russellb> rbergeron: good to hear
19:29:48 <russellb> no news really  ...
19:29:51 <rbergeron> mrhinkle: it may make a lovely demo video
19:29:55 <vaneldik> a propos openstack: are there plans to provide Essex on EPEL6? If so: when?
19:31:22 <russellb> vaneldik: yes, but after Essex is released and we're happy with how well it's working in Fedora 17
19:31:22 <rbergeron> vaneldik: i am not sure what is in epel right now, but iirc essex isn't officially released for a few weeks
19:31:25 <russellb> then we'll backport it
19:31:37 <russellb> EPEL has the previous release in it right now (Diablo)
19:31:37 <rbergeron> vaneldik: what russellb said
19:31:57 <rbergeron> russellb: even keystone and etc?
19:32:06 <russellb> yep, all of it
19:32:16 <russellb> ALL THE THINGS
19:32:28 <vaneldik> OK, thanks.
19:32:36 <rbergeron> okay, i wasn't sure - i know those other THings are more new-ish so wasn't sure if it was just "pre-essex code but not from diablo" or what
19:32:43 <gholms> Upgrading stuff in EPEL?  Ouch.
19:33:49 * rbergeron hands gholms a bandaid of epic proportions
19:34:57 <rbergeron> Okay, so, mrhinkle, i can assure you that things are generally slightly more exciting.
19:35:12 <rbergeron> I blame it on march madness
19:35:43 <rbergeron> Alabama needs to get it together
19:35:48 <rbergeron> ANYWAY
19:35:55 * rbergeron will call the meeting shortly if there's nothing else
19:36:13 <gholms> [zodbot starts to glow]
19:36:22 <rbergeron> wow
19:36:30 <rbergeron> zoddy miracle
19:37:56 <rbergeron> okay, kids, I think i'll close it out.
19:38:16 <rbergeron> HAVE A GOOD WEEKEND. it is springtime. go have a beefy miracle with yoru green beer as you watch me kick the snot out of greg and max in march madness.
19:38:19 <rbergeron> :D
19:38:22 <rbergeron> #endmeeting