15:33:07 <thunderbirdtr> #startmeeting 15:33:07 <zodbot> Meeting started Thu Mar 29 15:33:07 2012 UTC. The chair is thunderbirdtr. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 15:33:07 <zodbot> Useful Commands: #action #agreed #halp #info #idea #link #topic. 15:33:16 <thunderbirdtr> #topic Video Meeting 15:33:33 <thunderbirdtr> #Roll Call 15:33:45 <graphite6> .fas graphitefriction 15:33:46 <zodbot> graphite6: graphitefriction 'Sarah White' <graphitefriction@gmail.com> 15:33:47 <thunderbirdtr> .fas thunderbirdtr 15:33:48 <tatica> .fas tatica 15:33:50 <gnokii> .fas gnokii 15:33:50 <zodbot> thunderbirdtr: thunderbirdtr 'Onuralp SEZER' <thunderbirdtr@gmail.com> 15:33:53 <FranciscoD> .fas FranciscoD 15:33:53 <zodbot> tatica: tatica 'Maria Gracia Leandro Lombardo' <tatadbb@gmail.com> 15:33:57 <zodbot> gnokii: gnokii 'Sirko Kemter' <buergermeister@karl-tux-stadt.de> 15:34:01 <zodbot> FranciscoD: ankursinha 'Ankur Sinha' <sanjay.ankur@gmail.com> - franciscodubo 'Francisco Javier Dubó Ortíz' <f.dubo@hotmail.cl> 15:34:11 <thunderbirdtr> #topic Roll Call 15:34:26 <graphite6> mojavelinux is at Eclipse Con so he can't attend today 15:34:39 <FranciscoD> Can we start with action items from last meeting please? 15:34:47 * FranciscoD sees all his action items in the start of the list ;) 15:34:59 <thunderbirdtr> FranciscoD, sure 15:35:16 <thunderbirdtr> FranciscoD , Do you have last meeting link now ? 15:35:23 <FranciscoD> http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2012-03-08/fedora-meeting.2012-03-08-15.37.txt 15:35:46 * FranciscoD was sitting on it 15:35:49 <FranciscoD> thunderbirdtr: topic change? 15:36:14 <thunderbirdtr> FranciscoD, I just read it sorry 15:36:26 <thunderbirdtr> #topic Last meeting actions 15:36:35 <FranciscoD> ! 15:36:39 <FranciscoD> :P 15:36:42 <thunderbirdtr> FranciscoD, go ahead 15:36:47 <FranciscoD> My action items: 15:37:00 <FranciscoD> #info 1. FranciscoD see if we can file the Pitivi bug with upstream 15:37:26 <FranciscoD> #info The maintainer pushed an update. thunderbirdtr has verified that it isnt getting stuck anymore. Bug has been fixed 15:37:42 <FranciscoD> #info 2. FranciscoD will open a design ticket so we can have a graphical howto based on drafts 15:37:54 <FranciscoD> #info tatica has taken up the ticket :D 15:38:06 <FranciscoD> #info 3. FranciscoD document writing srt (subtitle) files 15:38:15 * tatica hasnt been able to do anything, but next week is holiday in here so I will have time 15:38:23 <FranciscoD> We've already got software for writing subtitles in the repositories 15:38:35 <FranciscoD> #info gnome-subtitles, subtitleditor 15:38:48 * FranciscoD has become co-maintainer of subtitleditor to ensure it gets more love 15:39:00 <FranciscoD> http://home.gna.org/subtitleeditor/ 15:39:17 <FranciscoD> Its pretty easy to use. However, the subtitles come out a little large somehow 15:39:21 <graphite6> FranciscoD: awesome! 15:39:24 * FranciscoD is looking into the issue 15:39:47 <FranciscoD> Other than that, subtitleeditor also supports translations :D 15:39:56 <thunderbirdtr> Great 15:39:57 <FranciscoD> But i havent figured out how to use it for that purpose yet. 15:40:31 <FranciscoD> http://dl.dropbox.com/u/28552799/Byobu/Byobu.srt 15:40:35 <FranciscoD> ^ example subtitle file 15:40:53 <FranciscoD> http://dl.dropbox.com/u/28552799/Byobu/Byobu.ogg 15:41:00 <FranciscoD> example video file,made using istanbul 15:41:09 <FranciscoD> Still under construction though 15:41:25 * thunderbirdtr we have problem with that 15:41:37 <FranciscoD> #info 3. graphite6 FranciscoD and thunderbirdtr will consolidate tasks and submit pages 15:41:50 <FranciscoD> I havent been able to work on this front, but thunderbirdtr has a draft 15:41:57 * graphite6 has been slacking, sorry 15:42:02 <FranciscoD> #action FranciscoD review thunderbirdtr 's draft 15:42:07 <FranciscoD> eof for me :) 15:42:13 * FranciscoD runs to change 15:42:23 <thunderbirdtr> FranciscoD, thank you 15:42:33 <graphite6> thank you FranciscoD! 15:42:44 <FranciscoD> :D 15:43:15 <graphite6> ! 15:43:15 <thunderbirdtr> I think we can pass new roll am I right ? 15:43:20 <thunderbirdtr> graphite6, yes 15:43:37 <graphite6> I think we had the same thought, I was going to talk about my action items now 15:43:47 <thunderbirdtr> graphite6, yes please 15:44:22 <graphite6> #info redirect https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Video_ideas_and_inspiration to /Videos/Ideas_and_Inspiration 15:44:27 <graphite6> mojavelinux did this 15:44:34 <graphite6> and I did... 15:44:36 * FranciscoD needs to run now. But will look at the logs and reply on the ML 15:44:43 <FranciscoD> Please feel free to assign tasks to me :) 15:45:00 <graphite6> #info graphite6 move https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Frequently_asked_questions_about_video_resources under video 15:45:16 <graphite6> I did that, the new links are on the main video page 15:45:35 <graphite6> eof 15:45:58 <thunderbirdtr> graphite6, thank you 15:46:08 <thunderbirdtr> graphite6, but I can't open first link ? 15:46:23 <graphite6> on second... 15:46:32 <graphite6> #link https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Videos/Ideas_and_Inspiration 15:46:51 <graphite6> #link https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Videos/FAQs 15:47:05 <graphite6> do those work? 15:47:12 <thunderbirdtr> graphite6, yeap 15:47:16 <thunderbirdtr> graphite6, Thank you 15:47:31 <graphite6> :) 15:47:36 <graphite6> eof 15:47:44 <thunderbirdtr> #topic Rollcall - Fedora Videos Meeting 15:48:12 <thunderbirdtr> As we all I know 15:48:29 <thunderbirdtr> 2 weeks is pass without meeting 15:48:55 <thunderbirdtr> And I was think about another idea If you let me I will say 15:49:04 <graphite6> go ahead 15:49:22 <thunderbirdtr> First I was think about podcast and screencast 15:49:36 <thunderbirdtr> Also conference 15:49:55 <thunderbirdtr> tatica, was using google+ but we have limit 10 people 15:50:04 <tatica> ujum 15:50:25 <thunderbirdtr> Now I found new platform with that 15:50:33 <thunderbirdtr> We can record our meeting 15:50:36 <thunderbirdtr> unlimited people 15:50:51 <thunderbirdtr> and we can make conferance 15:50:52 <thunderbirdtr> also 15:50:59 <thunderbirdtr> Person can share own desktop 15:51:19 <thunderbirdtr> and can record desktop 15:51:58 <tatica> I would love to use other option, problem is 15:52:00 <tatica> up 15:52:00 <tatica> ! 15:52:08 <thunderbirdtr> tatica, yes 15:52:11 <tatica> aja 15:52:30 <tatica> 1.- I don't want to involve infra, because that's a problem we don't want to deal with (at least not yet) 15:52:54 <tatica> 2.- we don't want to force people to sing up to a service or FAS (that's the final goal, but we want to have curious people in there too) 15:53:33 <tatica> 3.- has to work with good and bad internet connections, we can't ask people to install something on their pcs (so, 100% better if we go with online optioncs) 15:53:34 <tatica> eof 15:54:08 <thunderbirdtr> tatica, good part is people can download If have slow connection 15:54:19 <graphite6> ? 15:54:45 <thunderbirdtr> graphite6, yes ? 15:54:55 <graphite6> What platform are we talking about? 15:55:22 <thunderbirdtr> #link http://evo.caltech.edu/ 15:56:09 <graphite6> thanks, looking at it now 15:56:11 <graphite6> eof 15:56:37 <thunderbirdtr> Ok graphite6 . 15:57:02 <thunderbirdtr> Anyway I think we complete our video wiki page 15:57:31 <thunderbirdtr> Can we say complete or If something is missing please contiune 15:58:33 * thunderbirdtr waiting for ideas ? 15:59:50 <thunderbirdtr> Ok I think we don't have idea or something else ? 16:00:41 <graphite6> I'm not sure if anything is missing...it's been a while since I looked it all over 16:01:20 <thunderbirdtr> I think we should start to think video and also intro 16:01:30 <graphite6> +1 16:01:56 <thunderbirdtr> I was tested pitivi with new version 16:02:05 <thunderbirdtr> It's not have problem anymore 16:02:14 <thunderbirdtr> That's good part too for all of us 16:02:23 <tatica> ! 16:02:29 <thunderbirdtr> tatica, yes 16:02:46 <tatica> I think that we only have 2 steps ahead: do the intro-outro (my fault) and invite people to contribute 16:03:01 <thunderbirdtr> tatica, +1 16:03:37 <thunderbirdtr> tatica, eof ? 16:03:53 <tatica> eof 16:03:54 <tatica> sorry 16:03:58 <thunderbirdtr> tatica, np 16:04:17 <thunderbirdtr> tatica, let's make this intro job public 16:04:27 <thunderbirdtr> tatica, also invite people 16:04:38 <tatica> plis plis plis 16:04:40 <tatica> yes 16:04:49 <tatica> maybe we can do sorta contest, mockups, and use everyones ideas 16:04:56 <thunderbirdtr> tatica, +1 16:05:00 <graphite6> +1 16:05:03 <thunderbirdtr> Okey then 16:05:09 <thunderbirdtr> Let make contest page 16:05:11 <thunderbirdtr> in our wiki 16:05:14 <thunderbirdtr> about intro 16:05:16 <thunderbirdtr> and 16:05:22 <thunderbirdtr> send to mail list 16:05:31 <thunderbirdtr> ambassador and marketing 16:05:42 <thunderbirdtr> also share on social network 16:05:45 <thunderbirdtr> is it good ? 16:06:11 <thunderbirdtr> graphite6, tatica ? 16:06:27 <graphite6> +1 one question though, will it need to follow fedora logo/color guidelines? 16:06:38 <thunderbirdtr> graphite6, sure 16:06:53 <thunderbirdtr> graphite6, We need to point our logo rules 16:07:24 <graphite6> we'll need to make sure that info is connected or on the contest page 16:08:04 <thunderbirdtr> about logo 16:08:11 <thunderbirdtr> this link is enough 16:08:13 <thunderbirdtr> #link http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Logo 16:08:15 <thunderbirdtr> I think 16:08:28 <thunderbirdtr> Also 16:08:32 <thunderbirdtr> #link http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Logo/UsageGuidelines 16:08:45 <graphite6> got it! 16:09:29 <thunderbirdtr> We need to decide our intro size,shape,video format and other things 16:09:59 <thunderbirdtr> tatica, can help about this I think ? 16:10:00 <tatica> sorter simpler better... 16:10:04 <tatica> maybe a 5sec intro 16:10:12 <tatica> with a super short music clip too 16:10:17 <thunderbirdtr> yeah 16:10:19 <tatica> 1/4 of a startup screen 16:10:19 <thunderbirdtr> this music 16:10:24 <tatica> same with outro 16:10:29 <graphite6> probably need to have it in a few sizes...or at least a square (4:3) and a widescreen (16:9) version 16:10:37 <thunderbirdtr> graphite6, +1 16:11:21 <thunderbirdtr> Ok then 16:11:24 <tatica> graphite6, +1 16:11:33 <thunderbirdtr> graphite6, can we make contest wiki page ? 16:11:39 <thunderbirdtr> If you want ? 16:11:45 <tatica> and a mail 16:11:49 <graphite6> yes, I can help 16:12:30 <thunderbirdtr> #action graphite6 , thunderbirdtr will make Fedora Video Intro/Outro Contest Page 16:12:51 <graphite6> +1 16:12:56 <thunderbirdtr> #action tatica decide to Constest rules 16:13:02 <tatica> me? 16:13:11 <tatica> because I'm the older? the one who always gets in troubles? 16:13:12 <tatica> :O 16:13:14 <thunderbirdtr> tatica, you're the designer ? 16:13:16 <graphite6> lol 16:13:19 * tatica runs and hide! 16:13:28 <thunderbirdtr> tatica, come back here :)) 16:13:29 <graphite6> would this be like a design bounty, tatica? 16:13:50 <tatica> maybe, I think that's correct 16:14:12 <thunderbirdtr> Good :) thank you tatica 16:14:16 <tatica> np 16:14:19 <tatica> put an action 16:14:34 <tatica> however... I will need help with my english 16:14:40 <tatica> you already know that :P 16:14:48 <tatica> I will send a draft after I have it 16:14:49 <thunderbirdtr> tatica, I can help you :) 16:15:00 <graphite6> I can too 16:15:17 <thunderbirdtr> tatica, I'm english teacher :) 16:15:22 <tatica> :O 16:15:28 <graphite6> woot! 16:15:35 * tatica jumps over thunderbirdtr and hug him maddly! 16:15:36 <tatica> srsly??? 16:15:52 <thunderbirdtr> tatica, yes I am 16:15:56 <tatica> :O 16:16:18 <thunderbirdtr> Anyway ... 16:16:26 <thunderbirdtr> Other ideas 16:16:34 <thunderbirdtr> We need idea 16:17:42 <thunderbirdtr> Oh I remember one 16:18:22 <thunderbirdtr> I just one more time to check whole video wiki with FranciscoD and make sure everything is complete 16:18:36 <graphite6> +1 16:18:40 <thunderbirdtr> We talked about that 16:19:48 <thunderbirdtr> #action thunderbirdtr FranciscoD will check Fedora Videos wiki as spelling and as information 16:20:31 <thunderbirdtr> Ok then Anything else am I missing ? 16:20:43 <graphite6> I don't think so 16:20:47 <tatica> hotdogs? 16:20:51 <graphite6> :) 16:20:56 <tatica> candy? coffee and cookies? 16:21:15 <tatica> nop? oh sorry... isn't this the Fedora Coffee meeting? 16:21:16 <thunderbirdtr> tatica, Yeah I need coffee with tatica's hugs 16:21:19 * niteshnarayanlal is here ,sorry I am too late 16:21:30 * tatica got confused because this doesn't looks like a meeting... everyone is having fun :) 16:21:43 <niteshnarayanlal> ! 16:21:46 <niteshnarayanlal> :) 16:21:47 <thunderbirdtr> niteshnarayanlal, yes 16:22:23 <niteshnarayanlal> I was saying that we should start putting our videos on some channel at some place 16:22:31 <niteshnarayanlal> eof 16:22:47 * graphite6 hasn't had time to make her video yet :( 16:22:55 <thunderbirdtr> niteshnarayanlal, after intro/outro 16:23:16 <niteshnarayanlal> how many videos do we have till now ? 16:23:44 <thunderbirdtr> niteshnarayanlal, I dunno ? 16:24:00 <niteshnarayanlal> I had made 2 or 3 videos earlier 16:24:28 <thunderbirdtr> in youtube ? 16:24:36 <niteshnarayanlal> tatica, may be now we should put the draft on our blogs ? 16:25:04 <tatica> sure, as we said before, its time to spread 16:25:34 <niteshnarayanlal> graphite6, I think the draft is been finalized long time back :P 16:26:08 <graphite6> niteshnarayanlal: I think so, but it has been a while and I've forgotten :( 16:26:53 <graphite6> is this related to thunderbirdtr and FranciscoD doing one last review of the wiki page? 16:27:11 <thunderbirdtr> graphite6, yes 16:27:27 <niteshnarayanlal> I think we should put the draft now 16:28:09 <thunderbirdtr> niteshnarayanlal, I think we should first make this contest and decide to our intro/outro 16:28:22 <thunderbirdtr> niteshnarayanlal, then adding video with intro/outro as draft = 16:29:21 <niteshnarayanlal> contest ? 16:29:38 * niteshnarayanlal afraid that he had missed many things 16:29:55 <thunderbirdtr> niteshnarayanlal, not yet :) 16:30:00 <niteshnarayanlal> :P 16:30:29 <niteshnarayanlal> thunderbirdtr, contest ? 16:32:17 <graphite6> niteshnarayanlal: we're going to have a design bounty type contest to get people to create the intro and outro 16:32:41 <niteshnarayanlal> oh that looks like a good idea :) 16:33:21 <graphite6> I have to run to another meeting now, I'll review that logs and be back online in an hour or two! see you guys and gals later! 16:34:33 <niteshnarayanlal> so the dates and all other things are decided thunderbirdtr ? 16:35:19 <niteshnarayanlal> tatica, there ? 16:35:55 <tatica> yes, I'm here 16:36:13 <tatica> I have to write the contest guidelines 16:36:21 <tatica> and won't be this weekend since I'm busy 16:38:36 <thunderbirdtr> sorry 16:38:38 <thunderbirdtr> everyone 16:39:42 <niteshnarayanlal> tatica, no problem 16:40:07 <niteshnarayanlal> it seem bit difficult for me too to help this week 16:41:28 <niteshnarayanlal> thunderbirdtr, what you say 16:41:42 <thunderbirdtr> niteshnarayanlal, just one min please 16:41:51 <niteshnarayanlal> np 16:41:51 <niteshnarayanlal> what are our tasks decided till now 16:42:06 <thunderbirdtr> graphite6, and I 16:42:12 <thunderbirdtr> We will make constest page 16:42:16 <thunderbirdtr> about intro/outro 16:42:25 <thunderbirdtr> FranciscoD and I will check whole wiki 16:42:35 <thunderbirdtr> tatica, will decide to contest rule 16:42:41 <thunderbirdtr> about intro/outro 16:42:45 <tatica> ujum 16:43:05 * thunderbirdtr wonder what's "ujum" ? 16:43:19 <niteshnarayanlal> +1 16:43:26 <thunderbirdtr> niteshnarayanlal, thank you 16:43:36 <niteshnarayanlal> :) 16:43:57 <thunderbirdtr> I think we can close meeting 16:44:04 <thunderbirdtr> tatica, have too many job :) 16:44:13 <thunderbirdtr> Are we done * 16:44:13 <thunderbirdtr> ? 16:44:17 <niteshnarayanlal> yeap 16:44:17 <tatica> ohh... if you only knew... 16:44:23 <thunderbirdtr> tatica, yes ? 16:44:35 <tatica> too much work :) 16:45:03 <thunderbirdtr> tatica, I tell after meeting :D please wait :D 16:45:20 <tatica> oki 16:45:27 <thunderbirdtr> Thank you for coming !!! 16:45:32 <thunderbirdtr> #endmeeting