15:58:27 #startmeeting 15:58:27 Meeting started Sat Apr 21 15:58:27 2012 UTC. The chair is thunderbirdtr. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 15:58:27 Useful Commands: #action #agreed #halp #info #idea #link #topic. 15:58:28 #topic Fedora Video Meeting 15:58:33 #topic Fedora Video Meeting - Roll Call 15:58:40 .fas thunderbirdtr 15:58:41 thunderbirdtr: thunderbirdtr 'Onuralp SEZER' 15:58:50 .fas graphitefriction 15:58:54 graphite6: graphitefriction 'Sarah White' 15:59:01 .fas niteshnarayanlal 15:59:02 niteshnarayanlal: niteshnarayan '' - niteshnarayanlal 'nitesh narayan lal' 15:59:19 #topic Fedora Video Meeting - PRIZE 15:59:25 ! 15:59:28 yes 15:59:38 as I told prize is been decided 15:59:44 we will be going with the tshirt 15:59:48 ! 15:59:49 and if possible 15:59:58 to arrange other swags we will 15:59:59 eof 16:00:01 niteshnarayanlal, for this +1 16:00:09 niteshnarayanlal: +1 16:00:16 thunderbirdtr, go on 16:00:19 And 16:00:29 Which swag will prefer ? 16:00:34 Oh right 16:00:37 ! 16:00:41 We will give t-shirt but 16:00:47 we have to decide this too 16:00:49 eof 16:00:51 niteshnarayanlal, yes 16:01:23 about other swag I was thinking that based on the availability of in near by regions 16:01:37 You mean this can be optinal ? 16:01:40 as in if there is something left out with 16:01:46 regional ambassadors 16:01:50 .fas gnokii 16:01:51 gnokii: gnokii 'Sirko Kemter' 16:01:54 we can ask them to give it to them 16:01:54 eof 16:02:29 That's mean We need to determine and ask to reginal ambassadors about swag as PRIZE 16:02:37 But F17 will be released 16:02:47 We can ask to swag for PRIZE 16:02:57 in my IMO 16:03:32 ! 16:03:37 graphite6, yes 16:04:19 I don't think it will be too much of a problem to add extra swag (pen, buttons, etc.) to the T-shirt unless they live some place with really difficult customs 16:04:37 graphite6, just for china 16:04:37 we can work out the extra swag when we have a winner I think 16:04:39 eof 16:04:41 thunderbirdtr, for now lets keep tshirt as fixed , other things we can see later 16:04:48 niteshnarayanlal, okey then 16:04:58 I will add t-shirt as PRIZE for now 16:05:03 are we good for that ? 16:05:07 +1 16:05:27 cool 16:05:38 yeap 16:06:02 thunderbirdtr, are we done with the rules and regulations for the contest ? 16:06:26 niteshnarayanlal, We already talk tatica before meeting 16:06:39 graphite6, know too... 16:07:02 what do I know? :) 16:07:16 my network is acting up 16:07:34 FranciscoD: np :) 16:08:08 graphite6, last meeting We all talk about RULES,Guidelines you was here too ? or am I remember wrong ? :) 16:08:17 thunderbirdtr, can you plz brief it once 16:08:26 so that those who don't know will also know that 16:08:38 is it all on the webpage? 16:08:43 yeap 16:08:46 Already done 16:08:51 then its cool 16:08:56 just I'm waiting for PRIZE 16:09:05 please check last time page 16:09:19 awesome :) 16:09:56 so we should move to the next step ? 16:10:08 sure 16:10:17 ? 16:10:26 niteshnarayanlal, you mean start contest ? 16:10:33 gnokii, yes 16:10:57 thunderbirdtr, are we left with anything ? 16:11:09 would be nice if u put the links to the rules here, otherwise that meeting looks really suspicius 16:11:27 #link https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Videos/FedoraVideos_Contest_Intro/Outro 16:11:27 thunderbirdtr: i hope you got my email? 16:11:51 * FranciscoD goes to read up logs 16:11:53 please continue 16:11:55 FranciscoD, yes 16:11:58 I got it 16:12:10 niteshnarayanlal, I just need configure TIMELINE 16:12:23 30 days for contest 16:12:35 5 or 10 for checking materials 16:12:45 and oh 16:12:45 graphite6, FranciscoD gnokii ^^ 16:12:47 mail * 16:12:49 is that fine? 16:12:51 * FranciscoD suggests thunderbirdtr add all the info using the info tag 16:13:04 (better logs) 16:13:19 #INFO Contest time : 30 days 16:13:38 #INFO Checking Materials After Constest time : 5-10 days 16:13:48 #INFO All Constest TIME : 40 days 16:13:52 are we good ? 16:14:08 graphite6, gnokii FranciscoD ? is that fine ? 16:14:10 ! 16:14:16 FranciscoD, yes 16:14:25 define contest time plesae 16:14:28 +1 16:14:29 * graphite6 looking over web page 16:14:48 does that mean the contest starts say on day n, and ends on day n+30? Is there a significance of this period? 16:15:04 or does it just mean that people will have 30 days to make submissions after the contest is announced? 16:15:07 eof 16:15:22 FranciscoD, oh sure and submissions time yes I forgot it 16:15:44 #INFO Constest Submissions Time : 5 Days 16:15:52 ? 16:15:57 FranciscoD, and 16:16:03 I can start today 16:16:12 Actually I was start before but 16:16:23 this PRIZE problem delay us 16:16:40 eof? 16:16:43 eof 16:16:49 * FranciscoD is not clear on the contest structure here 16:16:59 ! 16:17:04 woot 16:17:04 what are participants supposed to do in this 30 day period that you've defined thunderbirdtr ? 16:17:07 eof 16:18:00 FranciscoD, It's all written in wiki ? 16:18:23 FranciscoD, and I'm not defined all 16:18:33 FranciscoD, tatica did it 16:18:39 * FranciscoD goes to read wiki page 16:18:45 this timeline and days 16:19:58 can I have the link to this page you're referring to please thunderbirdtr ? 16:20:11 it isnt in the logs yet, and it doesnt seem to be on this page: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Videos/FedoraVideos_Contest_Intro/Outro#FEDORA_VIDEO_CONTEST 16:21:19 I think the 30 days means we start announcing right now that submissions will be open on the 10th of May, and will be open for 7 days, this is what I'm getting from the wiki...is that right? 16:21:24 #link https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Videos/FedoraVideos_Contest_Intro/Outro 16:22:00 ! 16:22:15 ! 16:22:20 ! 16:23:49 gnokii: go ahead 16:23:55 * FranciscoD thinks graphite6 is eof 16:24:13 * graphite6 sorry! eof 16:24:20 I dont get why there have to be a difference between submission and contest time 16:24:21 eof 16:24:25 FranciscoD: go 16:24:36 same here, we can announce today, and say "submit anytime till the 17th of may" instead? 16:24:53 we just need a submission dead line IMO. I don't understand the 30 day period :/ 16:24:56 eof 16:24:58 niteshnarayanlal: go 16:25:14 I wanted to ask 16:25:31 before starting the contest do we need any time for publicity of the contest ? 16:26:01 * FranciscoD thinks publicity should be discussed as a topic itself 16:26:11 niteshnarayanlal: eof when done 16:26:17 sorry eof 16:26:46 agreed, I think submissions can be open from the time we start announcing the contest as long as the submission period is open at least 20 days 16:26:47 we need it to be in the our timeline 16:27:55 ! 16:27:56 FranciscoD: go 16:28:20 I'd like to understand the logic behind the 30 day period before we make changes to the predefined flow 16:28:42 Can anyone explain the part to us? We could vote on what to do once we get the concept? 16:28:45 eof 16:28:52 ! 16:29:14 niteshnarayanlal: go 16:29:14 niteshnarayanlal, yes 16:29:16 btw I'm disconnected 16:29:23 thunderbirdtr: we understood ;) 16:29:31 FranciscoD, what are the broad divisions you think should be made 16:29:45 ? (divisions of what?) 16:29:46 FranciscoD, ? 16:29:52 as in contest publicity ,entries period 16:29:52 etc? 16:29:55 eof 16:30:04 thunderbirdtr: go 16:30:11 ! 16:30:24 * FranciscoD notes that meetbot.fp.o is down 16:30:30 oh not ! sorry 16:30:31 eof 16:30:36 FranciscoD, yes please contiune 16:30:39 thanks 16:30:51 niteshnarayanlal: i think we need to decide on an "Announcement date" 16:31:03 On this day, we need to flood all channels with publicity. 16:31:17 Blogs, planet, mailing lists, twitter, facebook, g+, indentica, digg, etc 16:31:27 +1 16:31:31 the contest needs to be global 16:31:38 not just for the fedora community 16:31:39 +1 16:31:43 +1 16:31:49 FranciscoD, +1 16:31:53 we have a chance of getting in new contributors too, we should keep all doors open. 16:32:00 yeap 16:32:02 we'd also get a press release from redhat maybe 16:32:07 FranciscoD, ! 16:32:15 so, 1. announcement date 16:32:33 this "announcement" should list : rules, guidelines, SUBMISSION END DATE 16:32:44 so folks can submit their videos anytime before the end date 16:33:05 then, we take a 7 day 'judging period', and announce results on the 8th day 16:33:10 that covers it all IMO 16:33:11 eof 16:33:12 thunderbirdtr: go 16:33:22 FranciscoD, About global 16:33:29 FranciscoD, We can do this offer 16:33:35 If person don't have FAS 16:33:51 +1 ^^ 16:33:51 We can add to another rule for IF people don't have FAS Account 16:33:57 such as 16:33:59 NAME 16:34:02 SURNAME 16:34:09 and some general informatian 16:34:11 in mail 16:34:16 eof 16:34:19 ! 16:34:21 FranciscoD: go 16:34:22 FranciscoD, yes 16:34:48 i don't know about that. iirc, folks must have an fas and should've signed the cla etc thing to participate in fedora contests. 16:35:06 niteshnarayanlal: did you get any info on this when you talked to legal? 16:35:10 yeah 16:35:11 FranciscoD: +1 16:35:12 on "who can participate"? 16:35:13 eof 16:35:20 FranciscoD, +1 16:35:37 yes they must have FAS account 16:36:29 and they must agree 16:36:37 the terms of the FPCA (in the Fedora Account System): 16:36:38 eof 16:36:53 #info participants must have an FAS account and should agree to the FPCA 16:36:56 #chair FranciscoD 16:36:56 Current chairs: FranciscoD thunderbirdtr 16:37:09 please note that this info *must* be present in the rules section 16:37:21 I'm handling now.. 16:37:21 who is in-charge of the rules section? :P 16:37:33 you and others :) 16:37:43 #action thunderbirdtr remember to add "who can participate" section in the rules 16:37:46 :P 16:37:59 what topic are we on? 16:38:11 the logs arent opening, since meetbot.fp.o is down 16:38:46 the last meetbot logged title was PRIZE 16:38:55 woah 16:39:01 we're a long way off topic then! 16:39:08 but we've talked about timeline and a bit about publicity :) 16:39:15 Lets get back to prizes then 16:39:28 FranciscoD, PRIZE part is complete 16:39:35 +1 16:39:46 thunderbirdtr: can you state the prizes we're giving out as "info" please? 16:40:20 info: Contest PRIZE determined Fedora t-shirt 16:40:25 is that all? 16:40:31 yes 16:40:47 no fedora cube/stickers/current release media? 16:40:52 ! 16:40:56 niteshnarayanlal, yes 16:40:57 niteshnarayanlal: proceed 16:41:06 * FranciscoD will let thunderbirdtr give out turns now ;) 16:41:10 FranciscoD, that is been discussed later that 16:41:19 who ever will win 16:41:45 we will ask his / her regional ambassador 16:41:45 to arrange other swags if possible 16:41:45 eof 16:41:54 * FranciscoD reminds people to type and keep their text ready 16:41:55 ! 16:42:00 FranciscoD, yes 16:42:15 niteshnarayanlal: but then, you can't state anything other than 't shirt' for prizes 16:42:21 during the announcement and publicty 16:42:25 yes we are not stating it 16:42:26 * FranciscoD isnt sure if thats attractive enough 16:42:32 FranciscoD, +1 16:42:46 niteshnarayanlal: how do you expect to get people involved if the prizes arent *spectacular*? 16:42:52 * FranciscoD suggests a fedora mug also! 16:42:56 At leats current Fedora media and sticker ? 16:43:06 info: FranciscoD give his mug as PRIZE !! 16:43:08 its a 38 day contest, One t shirt is too less 16:43:15 true 16:43:18 thunderbirdtr: i dont mind, i have 3 fedora mugs ;) 16:43:19 FranciscoD, there are many constraints ] 16:43:19 eof 16:43:36 niteshnarayanlal: please tell us the constraints, in a numbered list, with info tags 16:43:45 (quickly :P) 16:44:05 as I said we can give away 16:44:08 stickers and media 16:44:17 as that won't be a big problem 16:44:23 niteshnarayanlal, +1 16:44:26 but for sending mugs and other things 16:44:40 we need to have a budget approval 16:44:47 * niteshnarayanlal is not sure about those things 16:44:59 niteshnarayanlal: there are so many fudcons going on. We can ask them all to save a mug 16:44:59 as in if we can go for them 16:45:07 and send it out to the winner 16:45:08 FranciscoD, +1 16:45:18 one mug should not be an issue IMO 16:45:28 agree 16:45:36 #action FranciscoD ask fudcon KL to save one mug for fedora-videos contest 16:45:36 ok so we can mention 16:45:38 agree 16:45:42 +1 16:45:46 whose from NA :) ? 16:45:53 I am 16:45:54 Fedora Swags Package as PRIZE 16:45:54 graphite6, I think ? 16:46:04 yes 16:46:18 and other regions? please take up action items to talk to the fudcon/event organizers to save a mug and swag if possible for the contest prize 16:46:30 ! 16:46:34 (in your respective regions) 16:46:34 graphite6: go 16:46:58 ! 16:47:08 NA region will be putting in a big swag order very soon, I'll ask them to reserve a piece of each 16:47:10 eof 16:47:32 ! 16:47:41 Same for EMEA too.. I can ask too. 16:47:42 eof 16:47:43 niteshnarayanlal, ye 16:47:45 s 16:47:54 Few things , its better to distribute the Job . I mean first our rules are ready , only thing left is PRIZE Publicity and Dates 16:48:02 am I correct ? 16:48:02 eof 16:48:04 #action graphite6 ask NA to save one mug for fedora-videos contest 16:48:10 #undo 16:48:10 Removing item from minutes: 16:48:16 #action graphite6 ask NA to save one mug + swag for fedora-videos contest 16:48:29 #action thunderbirdtr ask EMEA to save one mug + swag for fedora-videos contest 16:48:40 ! 16:48:42 FranciscoD: go 16:48:52 lets change topic to publicity and discuss it properly 16:48:56 is that okay? 16:48:59 please 16:49:07 you have chair too 16:49:15 ! 16:49:20 niteshnarayanlal, yes 16:49:32 * FranciscoD will change topic after niteshnarayanlal finishes 16:49:56 just a suggestion may be one of us can take a task of making sure that prize thing is been done 16:50:03 and one of us 16:50:08 publicity 16:50:12 although that wont matter 16:50:16 as we are working in a team 16:50:27 but that way logging the things and reporting will be easy 16:50:32 just a suggestion eof 16:50:50 eof again :P 16:51:35 ! 16:51:44 graphite6: g0 16:52:13 so when do we start publicizing the contest. have we set the exact date? 16:52:14 eof 16:53:11 ! 16:53:13 FranciscoD: go 16:53:40 how about we discuss the prize thing this week with our region's even organizers, and we can start the contest coming friday 16:53:54 after meeting up on thursday, and confirming that everything is done? 16:53:55 * niteshnarayanlal would like to take the responsibility of publicity but will be needing a helping hand 16:53:58 ! 16:53:58 eof 16:54:01 niteshnarayanlal: go 16:54:19 I was thinking that may be FranciscoD look after the rules and all other things 16:54:35 meanwhile thunderbirdtr make sure that the prize thing is been done 16:54:37 * FranciscoD raises eye brows at "all other things" 16:54:41 niteshnarayanlal, ok 16:54:50 FranciscoD, all things :D 16:54:56 #info everyone report about prize status to thunderbirdtr 16:55:04 #undo 16:55:04 Removing item from minutes: 16:55:16 maybe me and graphite6 will look after the publicity 16:55:18 #info everyone report about prize status to thunderbirdtr before next meeting on Thursday 26th april 16:55:25 FranciscoD: +1 16:55:29 FranciscoD, +1 16:55:38 graphite6: would you do publicity with niteshnarayanlal ? 16:55:42 niteshnarayanlal: yes, I can help with publicity 16:55:44 I'll give you a helping hand to 16:55:46 s/to/too 16:55:54 awesome 16:55:59 eof 16:56:17 #action niteshnarayanlal graphite6 get all publicity planned before next meeting Thursday 26th april 16:56:27 #info FranciscoD run around and help everyone 16:56:28 I will be needing help as my exams are coming again :D 16:56:37 niteshnarayanlal: no issues 16:56:55 niteshnarayanlal, I can... you need 16:56:56 graphite6: niteshnarayanlal : do you folks want to discuss what exactly publicity will include? 16:57:05 or do you folks want a day or two to think? 16:57:15 yeah 16:57:17 we can have another "status check" meeting on tuesday maybe? 16:57:30 yes please, a day or two 16:57:48 is Tuesday good? 16:57:56 yeah 16:57:57 for the status check? 16:57:57 Tuesday is good for me 16:58:06 FranciscoD, +1 ok but stick topic please 16:58:06 as on Thursday I will be having exam 16:58:12 #info "status check" meeting on Tuesday 16:58:25 thunderbirdtr: well, we arent discussing publicity today, so no topic as of now :) 16:58:47 please proceed to the next topic as per your agenda thunderbirdtr niteshnarayanlal 16:58:52 #topic Fedora Video Meeting 16:58:58 FranciscoD, +1000 16:59:11 let me conclude all the things done till now 16:59:28 we are done with the rules 17:00:04 for contest 17:00:04 hopefully we will be done with Prize and publicity till next meeting 17:00:19 should we discuss about the timeline ? 17:00:24 confirmed one 17:00:25 eof 17:01:29 niteshnarayanlal, let's discuss on next meeting for timeline 17:01:36 because now we have 17:01:44 PRIZE task 17:01:48 and your task 17:01:51 okk np 17:02:01 niteshnarayanlal, ok 17:02:11 will Tuesday's meeting be at our usual time? 17:02:15 graphite6: yes 17:02:18 I will send out a reminder 17:02:23 #action FranciscoD send logs to lists 17:02:32 #action FranciscoD send meeting reminder for Tuesday meeting 17:03:00 so I think we are done for the day 17:03:02 FranciscoD, can we(I and you) make our agenda too ? 17:03:11 #action FranciscoD make agenda for next meetings 17:03:25 thunderbirdtr: you have too much work at the moment :) 17:03:40 FranciscoD, +1 17:03:48 FranciscoD, ok 17:04:38 okay 17:04:43 #topic Open Floor 17:04:57 #topic Fedora Video Meeting - Open Floor 17:05:06 please put up anything else you want to discuss, otherwise I'll close meeting in 3 minutes 17:05:19 I'm done ... 17:05:27 niteshnarayanlal, , graphite6 ? 17:05:34 yeah me too 17:05:34 me to...going to go find lunch :) 17:05:41 FranciscoD, all yours :) 17:05:43 alright 17:05:44 ending 17:05:46 #endmeeting