22:00:20 <cwickert> #startmeeting FAmSCo 2012-04-25 22:00:21 <zodbot> Meeting started Wed Apr 25 22:00:20 2012 UTC. The chair is cwickert. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 22:00:21 <zodbot> Useful Commands: #action #agreed #halp #info #idea #link #topic. 22:00:27 <cwickert> #meetingname famsco 22:00:28 <zodbot> The meeting name has been set to 'famsco' 22:00:43 <cwickert> #topic roll call 22:00:48 <cwickert> .fas cwickert 22:00:52 <zodbot> cwickert: cwickert 'Christoph Wickert' <christoph.wickert@googlemail.com> 22:01:03 <yn1v> .fas yn1v 22:01:04 <zodbot> yn1v: yn1v 'Neville A. Cross' <neville@taygon.com> 22:01:42 <cwickert> #info Zoltan sent regrets, he cannot attend as he is working night shift 22:02:09 * herlo is here 22:03:18 <cwickert> #info kaio is on transit to pet store for food of his my cats and only connected through his mobile but not really available 22:03:28 <igorps> hello folks 22:04:05 <cwickert> #chair cwickert herlo igorps yn1v kaio 22:04:05 <zodbot> Current chairs: cwickert herlo igorps kaio yn1v 22:04:23 <cwickert> first question: who is going to host the meeting? 22:04:31 <herlo> you 22:04:37 <cwickert> ok 22:04:53 <herlo> we can vote in a new chair but it would seem the former chair should do the duty 22:05:00 <cwickert> this brings us to the second question: who is going to be the next famsco chair? 22:05:08 <igorps> herlo, +1 22:05:24 * herlo hides 22:05:25 <herlo> :P 22:05:36 <igorps> do we have a quorum for voting? 22:05:40 <cwickert> yes 22:05:44 <igorps> good 22:05:59 <yn1v> I would like to have cwickert as chair again 22:06:26 <igorps> I see no problems with that 22:06:27 <kaio> hi 22:06:38 * herlo wonders if cwickert really wants to be chair again 22:06:53 <cwickert> it depends on 2 things: 22:07:08 <cwickert> 1. if you want me to be chair again (obvious, isn't it?) 22:07:19 <cwickert> 2. if you will support me 22:07:43 <herlo> cwickert: did we fail to support you before? I believe you are the best candidate for the job. 22:07:52 <kaio> what does "support" include now? :) 22:08:08 <cwickert> I feel like last week I did not receive any substantial support from the other FAmSCo members until herlo stood up 22:08:11 <kaio> I think cwickert has the biggest passion 22:08:53 <cwickert> kaio: make sure to take care of the road, we cannot risk loosing another FAmSCo member ;) 22:09:08 <igorps> cwickert, I believe we all want you to be chair again, what does not mean that we will agree on everything 22:09:20 <cwickert> igorps: that's not what I mean 22:09:28 <igorps> but you have my support 22:09:40 <cwickert> but if somebody asks the board to dissolve FAmSCo, this affects all of us 22:09:42 <kaio> hehe I am still home with 3 cats staring at me with meaning "go get food". 22:09:43 * yn1v will enable -v option on his support to cwickert 22:09:53 <igorps> cwickert, sure. 22:10:07 <cwickert> ok, who wants me to be chair again? 22:10:23 <herlo> +1 22:10:26 <igorps> +1 22:10:42 <yn1v> +1 22:10:43 <kaio> I didn't understand why you stepping down and why not be chair again. 22:10:44 <kaio> +1 22:11:15 <cwickert> #agreed cwickert will be FAmSCo chair (again) 22:11:16 <kaio> all our previous discussions were just positive in order to get the best results 22:11:51 <igorps> kaio, I share the same feeling 22:11:53 <cwickert> lets not get into the things that happened last week too deep now, we have more important work to do 22:11:56 <kaio> and I dont think you have to step down when every petition comes up 22:12:15 <kaio> sure lets move on 22:12:20 <cwickert> too bad 22:12:27 <cwickert> fedorahosted is still down 22:12:36 <herlo> oh noes! 22:12:41 * nirik would like to appologise again about that. 22:12:54 <cwickert> this limits our ability to do the day to day business 22:13:05 <cwickert> ok, then lets try something else 22:13:07 <nirik> I hope it's finished soon... if you really like I can cancel and reschedule the migration... 22:13:33 <cwickert> #topic FUDCon 2013 bids 22:13:36 <herlo> nirik: I don't see that as a good idea 22:13:38 * ianweller is here 22:13:47 <herlo> nirik: migrations are important 22:14:07 <herlo> cwickert: are we talking NA? 22:14:18 * nirik nods, but so is the work you all do. Anyhow, I will let you all know as soon as it's back. 22:14:43 <herlo> thanks 22:14:45 <cwickert> .famsco 288 22:14:45 <zodbot> https://fedorahosted.org/famsco/ticket/288 22:14:58 <cwickert> the link won't work, just for the minutes 22:15:05 <cwickert> we have a bid for NA 22:15:09 <cwickert> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FUDCon:Bid_for_Lawrence_2013 22:15:16 <cwickert> it's the only bid we have 22:15:31 <cwickert> and I think we just need to rubber-stamp it 22:15:38 <cwickert> ianweller: anything from your side? 22:15:46 <ianweller> only if you guys have any questions 22:15:49 * cwickert looks at the wiki page 22:16:03 <ianweller> the event space isn't completely set in stone yet, i have a meeting next week wednesday on that. 22:16:04 <ianweller> with some folks here at KU 22:16:35 <igorps> ianweller, are you one of the event owners? 22:16:40 <ianweller> but everyone here seems excited to do it. it's just a matter of pushing through the bureaucracy 22:16:43 <ianweller> igorps: i am 22:16:44 <cwickert> ianweller: is this in the middle of nowhere? 22:16:47 <ianweller> cwickert: yes 22:16:56 <ianweller> :) 22:17:11 <cwickert> :( 22:17:12 <ianweller> cwickert: well, no, it's on the edge of nowhere 22:17:18 <ianweller> western kansas is truly the middle of nowhere 22:17:19 <cwickert> fair enough 22:17:30 <ianweller> but we're in eastern kansas ;) 22:17:33 <cwickert> ok, any questions for ianweller? 22:17:52 <herlo> cwickert: you can fly into Kansas City, drive about 45 minutes and you are there. No worse than Blacksburg in that regard. 22:17:55 <kaio> how many attendant expecting? 22:18:01 <cwickert> quote: "Lawrence named one of the best places to retire" 22:18:19 <ianweller> cwickert: hehe 22:18:22 <cwickert> ianweller: I think we are supposed to get shit done and not retire 22:18:23 <igorps> it seems a nice place 22:18:38 <ianweller> cwickert: i think that was something rikki added to help me just get the bid done on time 22:18:44 <cwickert> "While Kansas is a heavily Republican state, Lawrence is reliably Democratic." 22:18:54 <ianweller> the "extra info you don't need" section 22:18:55 <cwickert> haha, you really focus on the important stuff 22:19:09 <ianweller> kaio: no clue, probabyl somewhere between 140-180, given previous years 22:19:22 <ianweller> temperature seems to be a deciding factor for most people, tempe had ~200 22:19:26 * cwickert looks for flights 22:19:37 <kaio> ianweller: not bad 22:19:56 <ianweller> i expect we will hit the 140 mark, which has traditionally been the magic "we stop giving people free food/shirts" mark 22:20:08 <cwickert> al right, hang on a second, need to restart my browser 22:20:13 <cwickert> s/al/all 22:20:20 <nb> although at blacksburg i think everyone ended up with free food usually 22:20:24 <ianweller> also the engineering building uses only fedora for their linux machines 22:20:32 <nb> nice 22:20:35 <ianweller> so a lot of people in the EECS department know what fedora is and have used it 22:20:47 <kaio> good 22:20:58 <ianweller> so i expect we'll get some student involvement, possibly more so than previous years in NA 22:21:17 <ianweller> otoh we are doing it the weekend before classes start, so that we have space inside the buildings and whatnot 22:21:23 <ianweller> so we'll see 22:21:54 <cwickert> ok, flighs from Germany are fine 22:22:00 <cwickert> not worse than Blacksburg 22:22:18 <cwickert> even cheaper and it takes just as long 22:22:25 <cwickert> no objections from my side 22:22:29 <ianweller> :) 22:22:36 <cwickert> any more questions, any objections? 22:22:48 <ianweller> assuming no other objections i'll talk to rbergeron about getting the announcement sent out soonish. 22:22:51 <cwickert> (speak up or be quiet for ever) 22:22:59 * nb throws rubber stamps at ianweller 22:23:11 <kaio> I support. +1 22:23:14 <ianweller> nb: i'm hit! 22:23:15 <cwickert> +1 22:23:45 <yn1v> +1 22:23:52 <igorps> +1 22:23:56 <cwickert> #agreed FAmSCo supports the FUDCon 2012 Bid for Lawrence 22:24:05 <ianweller> s/2012/2013/ 22:24:16 <cwickert> #undo 22:24:16 <zodbot> Removing item from minutes: <MeetBot.items.Agreed object at 0x340b88d0> 22:24:23 <cwickert> #agreed FAmSCo supports the FUDCon 2013 Bid for Lawrence 22:24:25 <cwickert> thanks ianweller 22:24:30 <ianweller> thanks all 22:24:31 <herlo> +1 22:25:05 <cwickert> ok, as we have no trac at the moment, lets get back to our evergreen 22:25:17 <cwickert> #topic New FAmSCo election guidelines 22:25:26 <cwickert> we all agreed on the guideliens 22:25:30 <cwickert> lines* 22:25:38 <cwickert> but the transition is still unclear 22:25:49 <cwickert> we can either have an election now or for F19 22:25:59 <cwickert> if we have one now, we should elect all seats 22:26:18 <cwickert> who volunteered to step down so far? 22:26:27 <kaio> I am. 22:26:27 * cwickert did 22:26:35 * herlo 22:26:36 <igorps> so did I 22:26:43 <yn1v> I did 22:26:59 <cwickert> does anybody know something about Zoltan? 22:27:45 <kaio> ? 22:27:49 <igorps> I think he also did, from what I recall from the ticket 22:27:58 <cwickert> igorps: ah, right in the ticket 22:28:04 <kaio> he was like above my comment 22:28:08 <cwickert> ok, so here is the deal 22:28:24 <cwickert> I don't want to force any of you to run for re-election 22:28:33 <cwickert> in fact I feel I have been pushing too hard 22:29:00 <cwickert> I have spent some time reading the guidelines 22:29:21 <cwickert> and I was wrong to say we cannot switch to the new guidelines without F18 elections 22:29:39 <cwickert> we can do the switch and wait until F19 for the next regular elections 22:30:18 <cwickert> I still would like F18 elections because more people are allowed to vote 22:30:18 <igorps> I prefer that approach 22:30:23 <cwickert> but it's not mandatory 22:30:47 <cwickert> for me it is important that we a) make the switch and b) everybody is fine with it 22:31:21 <cwickert> again, I don't want to put pressure on anybody and make them agree to F18 elections 22:31:27 <cwickert> so, F18 or F19? 22:31:37 <yn1v> I think the sooner the better 22:32:22 <cwickert> inode0: would it cause you additional headache to have FAmSCo elections with F18? 22:32:26 <igorps> I already have stated my concerns about changing the rules during the game, but if guys are willing to do it for F18 let's go for it 22:32:46 <cwickert> igorps: yes, noted and I share them 22:32:54 <inode0> only slight, I don't object 22:33:34 <cwickert> herlo, kaio: F18 or F19? 22:33:41 <kaio> I am happy to either. 22:33:45 * herlo is happy either way 22:33:49 <kaio> F18 is good. 22:33:51 <cwickert> haha 22:33:58 <igorps> So all seats would be open for F18 elections and then again for F19, right? 22:34:01 <herlo> I mentioned before, I would step down *only* if the elections were in F18 22:34:11 <herlo> igorps: no 22:34:22 <herlo> igorps: only 3 seats would be up in f19 22:34:29 <herlo> but the terms would always be two releases from tha tpoint 22:34:30 <igorps> herlo, ok 22:34:42 <herlo> whatever the cut off point is. 22:35:06 <herlo> it would alternate 3 then 4 then 3. and so on 22:35:37 <cwickert> guys, I am not going to make this decision, I have pushed too much already 22:35:48 <herlo> I say we take a vote for F18 22:36:12 <igorps> If we are going to cast votes I vote for F19 22:36:13 <herlo> if we don't get a decision to go ahead, we do F19 22:36:31 <kaio> F18 22:36:32 <yn1v> I vote for F18 22:36:39 <herlo> igorps: or that could work. 22:36:52 <herlo> I think we need to determine how the vote will work. 22:36:53 <cwickert> that is +3 for F18 and +1 for F19 22:37:03 <igorps> if F18 wins my seat will be open for election anyway :) 22:37:09 <cwickert> fortunately it does not really matter what I think at this point 22:37:25 <herlo> hmm, okay 22:37:30 * cwickert is glad he did not have to make the decision 22:37:38 <herlo> cwickert: did I vote? 22:37:45 <herlo> because I don't recall voting 22:37:58 <cwickert> herlo: I thought you were for F18? 22:38:09 <herlo> cwickert: I was aksing if we vote for or against f18 22:38:15 <cwickert> ah 22:38:20 <herlo> and if not, we let it slide to f19 22:38:25 <cwickert> ok, lets make it simple 22:38:25 <herlo> but everyone started voting 22:38:30 <cwickert> who wants F18? 22:38:32 <herlo> so I'm good to try again. 22:38:36 <kaio> F18 22:38:41 <yn1v> F18 22:39:00 <igorps> F19 22:39:24 <herlo> F18 22:39:32 <cwickert> F18 22:40:10 <igorps> I saw that coming :) 22:40:17 <cwickert> #agreed There will be a FAmSCo election for F18, all seats will be open. The top 4 vote-getters will serve one year, the bottom three 6 months 22:40:20 <herlo> indeed. I actually debated it. 22:40:37 <cwickert> ok, we have a decision now and that's it 22:40:38 <herlo> yay! we have a decision 22:40:40 <cwickert> case closed 22:40:47 <igorps> fair enough 22:40:52 <nb> yay! 22:40:58 <cwickert> wait... 22:41:14 <cwickert> nb: are you fine or do you still have some concerns? 22:42:06 <cwickert> nb: ? 22:42:17 <cwickert> or more general 22:42:28 <cwickert> what if somebody else has concerns? 22:42:51 <cwickert> we planned to have a 2 weeks period for feedback 22:43:08 <inode0> ! 22:43:25 <nb> cwickert, i am fine 22:43:31 <cwickert> but this will get tricky if we want elections for F18, inode0 needs to send out the announcements 22:43:35 <cwickert> inode0: shoot 22:43:38 <cwickert> nb: thanks 22:44:26 <inode0> We can make the announcement on Friday. There is plenty of time. 22:44:46 <herlo> great! 22:44:54 <inode0> People should blog and whatnot to let ambassadors know if they are interested to run. 22:45:04 <herlo> inode0: good point 22:45:13 <cwickert> ok, what about the others? do you see any problems with the feedback phase against the upcoming elections? 22:45:43 <herlo> cwickert: the feedback phase has been going on, I figured that is what this whole 'todo' was about in the first place. No? 22:46:00 <kaio> when will be the election date likely? 22:46:11 <inode0> yes, but we can't wait two weeks to announce - it isn't ideal to not allow feedback but you got plenty of feedback already I think :) 22:46:12 <herlo> we put it out there, ambassadors responded with their POV and we have adjusted accordingly. 22:46:13 <inode0> EOF 22:46:13 <cwickert> kaio: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Elections 22:46:24 <herlo> inode0: agreed. 22:46:31 <igorps> I'm not quite sure if we have enough time for more feedback 22:47:00 <herlo> igorps: +1 22:47:02 <cwickert> herlo, inode0: right, I think after nb's petition we had a lot of attention, probably more than every blog article or whatnot could ever cause 22:47:20 <igorps> cwickert, +1 22:47:28 <cwickert> ok, then let go public ASAP 22:47:36 <yn1v> +1 22:47:39 <cwickert> #action cwickert to update the wiki page 22:47:44 <cwickert> #undo 22:47:44 <zodbot> Removing item from minutes: <MeetBot.items.Action object at 0x1c9083d0> 22:48:03 <cwickert> #action cwickert to update http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FESCo_election_policy 22:48:23 <cwickert> #action all FAmSCo members: spread the word about the new FAmSCo election guidelines 22:48:35 <cwickert> #info we need to hurry up 22:48:56 <cwickert> #action cwickert to send inode0 all necessary info for his announcement 22:49:20 <cwickert> inode0: if I send you the info tonight, what do you think when you can send the announcement? 22:50:34 * inode0 is happy to consider himself informed of the decision now and he can proceed without anything more, thanks 22:50:48 <cwickert> ok 22:51:09 <inode0> the announcement will come from a Board member I think as it traditionally does 22:51:15 <cwickert> anything more on this or can we *finally* close this case and do something else? 22:51:32 <kaio> +1 22:51:36 <igorps> nothing else from me 22:51:37 <herlo> +1 close it 22:51:38 <cwickert> ok 22:51:44 <cwickert> what's next? 22:51:52 * herlo votes for sleep 22:51:54 <cwickert> any ideas what we can discuss without trac? 22:51:58 <cwickert> ah, I have one 22:52:06 <cwickert> the case of the missing FAmSCo member 22:52:10 <herlo> oh, yes. 22:52:18 <cwickert> I received a mail form gbraad 22:52:32 <cwickert> it said he personally had a very hard time 22:52:52 <cwickert> health and family issues 22:53:09 <cwickert> kaio knows something about this, so do I 22:53:18 <igorps> It really seemed a hard time for him 22:53:21 <cwickert> but as this is personal, it does not belong into this meeting 22:53:41 <cwickert> I think he deserves respect and support 22:53:50 <kaio> I talked to him the other day, but I let gbraad to manage how much he wants to tell. 22:54:00 <igorps> Gerard was an active member of last FAmSCo term 22:54:00 <cwickert> kaio: +1 22:54:11 <cwickert> igorps: +1 as well 22:54:30 <igorps> only something really serious could have happened 22:54:35 <kaio> he has been active and helpful in China community, but there are real hard times forced his absence 22:55:01 <herlo> igorps: I think that is what cwickert and kaio are indicating 22:55:01 <cwickert> igorps: it was serious, trust me. all of us can be happy it did not happen to us 22:55:23 <cwickert> so Gerard told me he will not step down 22:55:36 <cwickert> but he said he would understand if we force him to do so 22:55:55 <cwickert> so the question is: what are we going to do? 22:55:56 <igorps> cwickert, sure, that was clear for me knowing him from his work on FAmSCo previous term 22:56:23 <herlo> I think if it's as serious as you indicate, we just have his seat up for F18 like the rest of us and the case can be closed. 22:56:42 <igorps> his seat will be open for election, anyway 22:56:45 <cwickert> should we remove him from FAmSCo, given that the next elctions are beginning at July 1st? 22:56:57 <cwickert> that is 5 weeks from now 22:57:04 * inode0 thought all seats were up for election in F18, is that incorrect? 22:57:10 <cwickert> inode0: yes 22:57:17 <kaio> IMO this don't make a big difference, if we have quorum in next few meetings. 22:57:23 <herlo> I see no point in removing him at this point. It changes nothing. 22:57:25 <igorps> I really don't think a removal is necessary now 22:57:29 <cwickert> not enough time for somebody to catch up with FAmSCo business 22:57:30 * inode0 suggests riding it out until then 22:57:37 <cwickert> +1 22:57:42 <herlo> I think we're all on the same page 22:57:49 <cwickert> ok 22:57:52 <kaio> lets everyone just attend meeting as avail as possible 22:57:52 <yn1v> +1 22:57:55 <kaio> +1 22:58:18 <herlo> what is it we are voting then? 22:58:33 <cwickert> herlo: not removing him but just waiting 22:58:36 <cwickert> +1 22:58:37 <herlo> +1 22:58:45 <igorps> +1 22:58:49 <kaio> +1 22:58:51 <yn1v> +1 22:58:52 <herlo> cwickert: yeah, just wanted it to be official. :) 22:59:03 <cwickert> #agreed FAmSCo appreciates the work gbraad has done and will not remove him from the committee forcefully 22:59:19 <cwickert> oops, still wrong #topic, but anyway... 22:59:31 <cwickert> ok, anything more we can do? 22:59:40 <igorps> I filed a ticket about FISL, fortunately the wiki page has budget information 22:59:56 <igorps> http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FISL13 23:00:12 <cwickert> #topic 13th International Free Software Forum - FISL 23:00:25 <cwickert> .famsco 276 23:00:26 <zodbot> https://fedorahosted.org/famsco/ticket/276 23:00:37 <cwickert> (still doesn't work, just for the logs) 23:00:51 <igorps> The wiki page has basically the same information anyway 23:00:58 <cwickert> I have already given my +1 in trac before it disappeared 23:01:36 <igorps> The FAD that we will host is already approved as well 23:01:54 <cwickert> igorps: is it really a FAD? 23:02:02 <cwickert> oh, it is! 23:02:03 <cwickert> cool 23:02:20 * cwickert likes getting stuff done (tm) 23:02:34 <kaio> GTD++ 23:02:34 <herlo> +1 for the fad 23:02:38 <kaio> +1 23:02:43 * kaio goes 23:02:57 <kaio> any more tickets need me? 23:03:07 <igorps> cwickert, it will be a nice opportunity to get stuff done 23:03:37 <igorps> I will work with yn1v to purchase airfare directly 23:03:51 <yn1v> I was to make a blessing for buying blank medias, but did not have opportunity to make a ticket 23:03:52 <igorps> so we avoid PayPal fees 23:03:53 <cwickert> #agreed budget for FISL is approved as outlined in the wiki 23:04:16 <yn1v> s / make /ask 23:04:35 <cwickert> then we have this ticket for 100 USD 23:04:53 <cwickert> #topic Reimbursement - shipping costs 23:05:05 <cwickert> .famsco 284 23:05:06 <zodbot> https://fedorahosted.org/famsco/ticket/284 23:05:07 <yn1v> Yes, I like what is been planned for FISL and yes I can help igorps 23:05:17 * cwickert pulls all the info from his inbox 23:05:27 <cwickert> I think we should just approve this one 23:05:58 <cwickert> it's only USD 100.43 and has been paid already, so somebody is waiting for reimbursement 23:06:05 <kaio> +1 23:06:07 <cwickert> +1 23:06:09 <yn1v> +1 23:06:19 <igorps> cwickert, that would be me :) 23:06:43 <yn1v> This is for Leandro, isn't it? 23:06:43 <cwickert> igorps: ah, then we don't approve it ;) 23:07:04 <igorps> cwickert, I'm biased here :) 23:07:09 <cwickert> I assume that igorps is +1 23:07:13 <igorps> +1! 23:07:30 <cwickert> #agreed #284 is approved 23:07:50 <cwickert> #topic Fedora disks for first half of 2012 (Chile and Argentina) 23:07:53 <herlo> +1 23:07:58 <cwickert> .famsco 263 23:07:59 <zodbot> https://fedorahosted.org/famsco/ticket/263 23:07:59 <yn1v> to who I have to reimburse? 23:07:59 <herlo> sorry, I'm slow today 23:08:15 <igorps> yn1v, me 23:08:18 <cwickert> yn1v: to igorps 23:08:41 <yn1v> ah, ok.. 23:08:57 <cwickert> yn1v: what about the media? will you be able to make a payment of USD 3055.53 or do we need harish? 23:09:23 <cwickert> sorry, USD 1449 23:10:18 <yn1v> I can reimburse that, but I would like to have harish approval first 23:10:23 <cwickert> yn1v: USD 1449 is with PayPal, else it's only 1380 23:10:50 <cwickert> yn1v: I'm afraid this will take too long, but if you like 23:11:22 <cwickert> yn1v: would you be able to make the payment directly without PayPal? 23:11:29 <yn1v> harish took ownership of the ticket 23:11:33 <cwickert> 5% extra seems a much 23:12:22 <igorps> usually we work with 7.5% 23:12:22 <cwickert> yn1v: harish did not take ownership, we assigned it to him when it was still > USD 3000 23:12:40 <cwickert> igorps: for a bank transfer?! 23:12:49 <yn1v> harish is more flexible, he is using other reimburse methods that were not used before, he may use western union or some siminlar service 23:12:58 <igorps> cwickert, no, for Paypal 23:13:23 <cwickert> yn1v: ok, then harish should take care of it 23:13:36 <yn1v> I will write harish to speed things up 23:13:45 <cwickert> #action yn1v to nag harish about #263 23:14:12 <cwickert> any other tickets? 23:14:31 <yn1v> I have one petition for blessing but no ticket 23:14:54 <cwickert> yn1v: is it urgent? how much is it? 23:15:02 <yn1v> to buy 50 blank dvd and 50 blank cd for FLISOL 23:15:18 <cwickert> approved 23:15:20 <cwickert> :) 23:15:26 <yn1v> I was so focus in the other request that forgot mine,... it is for this weekend 23:15:37 <igorps> yn1v, +1 23:15:56 <cwickert> no, really, as a credit card holder we do trust you to approve this 23:16:21 <yn1v> yes, but I like to have blessing from the rest 23:16:29 <cwickert> you should file a ticket for reporting, but we definitely trust you 23:16:34 <cwickert> yn1v: what is the rest? 23:16:52 <yn1v> nothing important form my side 23:17:08 <yn1v> just that 23:17:41 <herlo> yn1v: the rest of famsco? 23:17:46 <cwickert> ah 23:18:04 * cwickert thought there was more to be approved 23:18:23 <cwickert> what about the general approval guidelines? 23:18:53 <cwickert> note sure if we should discuss this topic now, but it seems important in long or mid term 23:20:02 <yn1v> sorry, cwickert the rest = other famsco members 23:20:12 <cwickert> yeah, got this 23:20:28 <cwickert> #topic Regulate what regional tracs are needed 23:20:36 <cwickert> .famsco 268 23:20:36 <zodbot> https://fedorahosted.org/famsco/ticket/268 23:20:52 <cwickert> I received a mail from Ankur while trac was offline 23:21:08 <cwickert> and he said the APAC community will take care of this 23:21:16 <cwickert> nothing left for us to do 23:21:41 <cwickert> http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2012-04-14/apac.2012-04-14-04.01.html 23:21:42 <igorps> good to know they figured this out 23:21:50 <cwickert> http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2012-04-14/apac.2012-04-14-04.01.log.html#l-125 23:22:12 <cwickert> wrong link 23:22:19 <cwickert> http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2012-04-14/apac.2012-04-14-04.01.log.html#l-385 23:22:53 <cwickert> #info all APAC tickets will be handled in https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-apac 23:23:09 <cwickert> #info https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-india/ will be discontinued and read-only 23:23:44 <cwickert> #topic Discuss Budget Allocation for FY2012 23:23:54 <cwickert> .famsco 279 23:23:55 <zodbot> https://fedorahosted.org/famsco/ticket/279 23:24:14 <cwickert> I'm afraid there is nothing we can do until we have figures about the regional budget from Harish 23:24:37 <cwickert> and until the 2012 budget is confirmed 23:24:46 <igorps> indeed, we really need those numbers 23:24:49 <cwickert> but the good news is that we at least have a deadline now 23:25:05 <cwickert> #info 2012 budget should be confirmed by May 15th 23:25:16 <cwickert> no matter who actually will pay it 23:25:54 <cwickert> #topic Funding request for the drinks, Release Party F17 Surakarta 23:26:01 <cwickert> .famsco 278 23:26:01 <zodbot> https://fedorahosted.org/famsco/ticket/278 23:26:08 <cwickert> this is about USD 53 23:26:15 <cwickert> for catering only 23:26:22 <cwickert> the rest was already approved 23:26:34 <cwickert> the ticket even has an invoice attached 23:26:41 <cwickert> so I think we should just approve it 23:26:55 <cwickert> the food is already ordered and will be delivered to the event 23:27:07 <cwickert> opinions? 23:27:37 <igorps> It seems that everything is in place already 23:27:41 <kaio_ph> +1 23:27:46 <cwickert> +1 23:27:51 <igorps> no need to delay the approval 23:28:40 <cwickert> herlo: still with us? 23:29:20 <cwickert> yn1v: what about you? 23:29:37 <cwickert> come on, this is the last ticket according to my inbox 23:29:46 <yn1v> +1 23:29:50 <cwickert> #agreed #278 is approved 23:29:56 <cwickert> ok, eof then 23:30:01 <cwickert> any other business? 23:30:10 <cwickert> #topic Open Floor 23:30:15 <kaio_ph> No from me 23:30:17 <igorps> nothing else from me 23:30:29 * cwickert waits 3 minutes before he closes the meeting 23:30:30 <yn1v> I have an announcement ... https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FUDCon:Bid_for_Managua_2013 23:30:46 <kaio_ph> The trip to hong kong is almost prepared. 23:31:00 <cwickert> yn1v: can you please add this to #288? 23:31:12 <yn1v> okey 23:31:21 <cwickert> #action yn1v to add the bid for Managua to #288 23:31:42 <cwickert> ok, thanks everybody for coming 23:31:45 * herlo is good 23:31:53 <kaio_ph> Just need to fill the later half of 20 people and more topics. Given bochecha provided venue, snacks. 23:32:05 <kaio_ph> Thanks. 23:32:24 <kaio_ph> Cya ttyl. Getting food back for my cats. 23:34:31 <cwickert> kaio_ph: hurry, before they eat you" 23:34:37 <herlo> lol 23:34:39 <cwickert> #endmeeting