22:00:29 #startmeeting FAmSCo 2012-05-02 22:00:29 Meeting started Wed May 2 22:00:29 2012 UTC. The chair is cwickert. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 22:00:29 Useful Commands: #action #agreed #halp #info #idea #link #topic. 22:00:36 #meetingname famsco 22:00:36 The meeting name has been set to 'famsco' 22:00:46 #topic Roll Call 22:00:50 .fas cwickert 22:00:51 cwickert: cwickert 'Christoph Wickert' 22:01:10 .fas yn1v 22:01:11 yn1v: yn1v 'Neville A. Cross' 22:01:47 :) 22:02:15 #info herlo sent regrets he won't be able to come 22:02:37 but the mail got stuck in the moderation queue, sorry my bad 22:03:06 #info Zoltan is at Linuxtage and LGM in Vienna and cannot attend either 22:03:09 I am having lag problems 22:03:46 yn1v: but at least you are there :) 22:04:16 * cwickert looks for kaio, gbraad and igor 22:04:38 seems we won't be able to reach a quorum today 22:04:53 :( 22:05:46 yn1v: anything you want to bring up? 22:06:20 I want pizza ;) 22:06:26 :p 22:09:14 yn1v: sorry, I can't help you with that one. file a ticket in famsco trac ;) 22:09:37 lets take a look at the agenda nevertheless 22:09:45 #topic Trac Tickets 22:10:09 #info we don't have a quorum as many people are traveling, so this meeting is only informal 22:10:13 https://fedorahosted.org/famsco/report/9 22:10:23 that looks nice 22:10:27 .fas me@kaio 22:10:28 kaio_ph: kaio 'Caius Chance (かいお)' 22:10:31 not much on the agenda 22:10:58 #topic Regulate what regional tracs are needed 22:11:05 .famsco 268 22:11:05 https://fedorahosted.org/famsco/ticket/268 22:11:30 That seems came decision to have India trac read only. 22:11:41 #info fedora-india trac is closed, use fedora-apac instead 22:11:51 ++ 22:11:57 the question is: do we want to do anything more? 22:12:19 * cwickert would like to rename emea-swag-tracker to fedora-emea 22:12:36 Just make sure active tickets in india trac are migrated. 22:12:55 kaio_ph: there were only 4 active tickets 22:12:59 Fedora-Emea ++ 22:13:12 cwickert: Yes that so. 22:13:45 sure, I first need to talk to kital and nirik, kital is the owner of emea-swag-tracker and nirik is our infrastructure guru 22:13:59 Sure. 22:14:14 #action cwickert to investigate if emea-swag-tracker can be moved to fedora-emea 22:14:25 the rest looks good to me. questions? comments? 22:14:42 move famna to fedora-na? 22:14:58 #undo 22:14:58 Removing item from minutes: 22:15:04 #action cwickert to investigate if emea-swag-tracking can be moved to fedora-emea 22:16:27 doesn't seem so 22:16:39 #topic Budget + PO for EMEA F17 media production 22:16:45 .famsco 280 22:16:46 https://fedorahosted.org/famsco/ticket/280 22:16:58 I got a mail from Jiri with the final numbers 22:16:59 # 22:17:36 #chair 22:17:54 #info EMEA will do 5k media, 4k multi desktop live and 1k install. total cost is 1.739 EUR or UDS 2,298 22:18:10 #chair kaio_ph yn1v 22:18:10 Current chairs: cwickert kaio_ph yn1v 22:18:28 I think we should just approve this 22:18:33 ++ 22:18:38 yes 22:18:40 it's way below the limit of USD 5k 22:18:50 I support. 22:19:04 yn1v: given these prices, do you think it makes sense to ship media to LATAM? 22:19:14 it seems to be way cheaper 22:19:24 yes 22:19:47 you think we could do this for F17 or is it too late? 22:20:03 I am not sure if will be good for all latam, but for most countries yes 22:20:21 ok, lets at least evaluate this 22:20:52 #action cwickert to find out how much shipping from Czech to various countries in LATAM is 22:21:13 Only the printed envelope will cost that much 22:21:28 of course the prices will drop further if we produce more 22:21:39 yn1v: do you think we will get problems with customs? 22:22:20 maybe, but even paying custom clearence will be cheaper in the end 22:22:46 yn1v: ok, can you try to get numbers for the various countries? how much would they want to order? 22:23:05 I will try 22:23:19 thanks 22:23:35 #action yn1v to get in touch with the LATAM communities for media orders 22:23:54 too bad herlo is not here 22:24:02 we could ask NA, too 22:24:17 * cwickert does the happy dance! 22:24:25 hi igorps, glad you are here 22:24:35 Hello all! 22:24:37 #info we have a quorum, continuing with official meeting 22:24:52 igorps: we are just talking about https://fedorahosted.org/famsco/ticket/280 22:25:12 * igorps is checking it out 22:25:19 EMEA is ordering 5k media for a total price of 1.739 EUR or UDS 2,298 22:26:49 Looks reasonable considering the amount of previous releases 22:27:13 I wonder if joining latam demand to emea, would result in burn-out of emea collaborators 22:27:42 To 22:27:49 Yo quorum 22:28:23 yn1v, what do you mean by joining latam demand to emea? 22:28:56 we were talking about exploring if will be better to order disk with emea and ship them to latam 22:29:03 igorps: we are thinking about producing media for LATAM in Czech. seems way cheaper even with shippung and customs 22:29:13 evene paying something at customs will result on cheaper media 22:29:32 Got it 22:29:44 it's math, we need numbers 22:29:53 And I was thinking about exploring the other side of the issue 22:30:01 that's why I'll investigate shipping 22:30:26 yn1v and igorps: you need to give us numbers how much the individual communities in LATAM need 22:30:27 I'm not quite sure if this will result in cheaper media but it's worth investigating 22:30:44 right, we can at least try 22:31:00 cwickert, sure 22:31:15 I can get the numbers from the last order for Brazilian ambassadors 22:31:16 ok, other than that, there is not much we can do now, we first need numbers 22:31:26 but we can approve 280 as it is now 22:31:35 is everybody find with that? 22:31:42 +1 22:31:42 we can ping people that has order media to compare prices. 22:31:53 yn1v: please do 22:31:54 and quality 22:31:56 +1 22:32:15 I fine with 280 +1 22:32:27 kaio_ph: your vote please 22:33:48 +1 22:33:51 #agreed #280 is approved. 5 k media for USD 2,298 22:33:58 Sorry phone kbd. 22:34:51 #topic Funding for ib54003 for LinuxTag 2012 22:34:57 .famsco 290 22:34:57 https://fedorahosted.org/famsco/ticket/290 22:35:13 sorry, this one is not on the agenda, I forgot to set the keyword 22:35:36 basically we just need to rubberstamp it 22:35:42 it's 70 EUR 22:35:55 and urgent, as Linuxtag is in 3 weeks 22:36:17 #action cwickert to file budget request for LinuxTag expenses 22:36:29 damn, there is more stuff coming 22:36:36 cwickert, do you know him? 22:37:06 igorps: yes, he is a young and enthusiastic new Ambassadors 22:37:08 -s 22:37:19 he joined us last year and did a very good job 22:37:37 good, just to have some reference about him 22:37:42 he is also involved in Freemedia and spends money there 22:37:53 so we should pay something back I think 22:38:13 IHMO he is one of the most promising new ambassadors we have in EMEA 22:38:53 cwickert, sounds good to me. It's important to foment new blood. 22:38:54 everybody fine with sponsoring him? 22:39:08 +1 22:39:28 yes +1 22:39:28 igorps: he is 18 years young and he did Linux and Fedora all by himself without any help 22:39:32 ++ 22:39:32 +1 22:39:42 #agreed #290 is approved 22:39:51 Our new hope. 22:39:53 as for Linuxtag 22:39:54 cwickert, great! I like the attitude! :) 22:40:02 I need to prepare a budget draft 22:40:06 I am very late with all this 22:40:11 Linuxtag is a major event 22:40:22 last year we had ~3500 EUR in total 22:40:33 but this year we'll be much cheaper 22:40:39 heard good things about it 22:40:55 because we are going to rent two apartments instead of a hotel 22:41:12 I think the overall budget will be around 2500-3000 EUR 22:41:32 the most expensive will probably be the hotdogs 22:41:47 Hehe 22:41:50 LinuxTag will be awesome 22:41:57 Fedora and CentOS share a booth 22:42:05 next to CentOS there is OpenSUSE 22:42:16 and next to Fedora there is a hotdog stand 22:42:22 and OpenSUSE has free beer 22:42:26 beer and hotdogs! 22:42:35 * igorps also heard that cwickert uses to wear like a hot dog 22:42:35 * yn1v drooling 22:42:46 our plan is that we make an arrangement with the hotdog guy 22:43:03 we will offer pay him some money and give out freee hotdogs 22:43:18 anyway, stoll requires some organization, but will be awesome 22:43:31 I'll prepare a detailed budget till next week 22:43:32 sounds fun! 22:43:53 sound delicious 22:44:00 ok 22:44:14 #topic Fedora disks for first half of 2012 (Chile and Argentina) 22:44:18 .famsco 263 22:44:18 https://fedorahosted.org/famsco/ticket/263 22:44:25 good news: this can finally be closed 22:44:28 yay 22:44:43 any more tickets we want to discuss now? 22:45:30 No from me. 22:45:42 ok 22:45:56 yn1v, igorps: anything from you? 22:46:09 nothing urgent I recall 22:46:19 I think for the real important tickets we need to wait until herlo is back 22:46:39 e.g. we cannot discuss regional budget allocation without anybody from NA 22:46:48 #topic Open Floor 22:46:58 ok, speak up or be quiet for ever :) 22:47:04 I have changed my mind, I will not file a ticket for pizza. I will instead file a ticket for hot-dogs as snacks for release party ! 22:47:10 :X 22:47:14 yn1v: :) 22:47:25 Hehe 22:47:33 who of you will come to FUDCon KL? 22:47:40 kaio_ph: you will be there, right? 22:47:40 Me 22:47:44 Yes 22:47:46 hotel already booked? 22:48:04 yn1v, igorps: the two of you won't come to KL, right? 22:48:08 Unfortunately I'm too faraway 22:48:16 My last news was harish was booking. 22:48:17 I will not be travelling much ... a baby is on the way 22:48:28 Unfortunately I will ot be able to make it to FUDCon LATAm 22:48:37 yn1v, great! 22:48:37 I wanted to do all 4 FUDCons in 2012 22:48:47 I guess he has done that, as I missed last apac meeting. 22:48:49 but my boss will kill me if I travel that much 22:49:08 cwickert, too bad we will not be able to met 22:49:12 So will mine. 22:50:22 igorps: yes, indeed. but I felt like LATAM community overall is in good shape and decided that APAC needs more help from FAmSCo for now 22:50:34 this is why I want to meet with kaio_ph and tuanta 22:50:40 cwickert, good call 22:50:46 and the other leaders of the APAC community 22:50:51 Yes apac needs help. 22:51:11 Hehe I am not a leader of APAC. 22:51:12 yn1v: too bad we won't meet. have we met in real life already? 22:51:30 kaio_ph: you are! one of the leaders 22:51:34 cwickert, I don't think so 22:51:39 too bad yn1v 22:51:49 * cwickert recalls meeting igorps but not yet yn1v 22:51:53 ok, anyway 22:51:59 thanks everybody for coming 22:52:07 3 22:52:08 2 22:52:09 1 22:52:12 #endmeeting