18:00:00 #startmeeting Infrastructure (2012-05-03) 18:00:00 Meeting started Thu May 3 18:00:00 2012 UTC. The chair is nirik. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 18:00:00 Useful Commands: #action #agreed #halp #info #idea #link #topic. 18:00:00 #meetingname infrastructure 18:00:00 The meeting name has been set to 'infrastructure' 18:00:00 #topic Robot Roll Call 18:00:00 #chair smooge skvidal CodeBlock ricky nirik abadger1999 lmacken dgilmore mdomsch threebean 18:00:00 Current chairs: CodeBlock abadger1999 dgilmore lmacken mdomsch nirik ricky skvidal smooge threebean 18:00:20 * wolfkit is here 18:01:25 * relrod (CodeBlock) is here. 18:01:28 * ctria here 18:01:29 * ianweller is here 18:02:44 * marcdeop here 18:03:07 crowbot here 18:03:23 * nirik waves. will wait another minute or two 18:04:35 am i it? 18:04:49 smooge: nope, a few other folks were in before you joined. 18:04:58 ok, I guess lets go ahead and dive in... 18:05:13 #topic New folks introductions and Apprentice tasks. 18:05:14 If any new folks want to give a quick one line bio or any apprentices 18:05:14 would like to ask general questions, they can do so now. Anyone? 18:05:23 me 18:05:31 welcome marcdeop. 18:05:39 me too 18:06:01 kmcgrell: go ahea :) 18:06:22 if you could give just a little one line intro for us that would be great... 18:07:02 :-) I'm sys admin with linux experience, about 12 years with bash and perl scripting 18:07:41 kmcgrell: excellent. You are more intested in the sysadmin side of things? or wanting to work on application development? 18:08:19 both if possible, I'm just starting to learn python in work so hopefully it will help 18:08:27 excellent. 18:09:01 I can see you after the meeting in #fedora-admin to get you in the apprentice group if you like... and abadger1999 may be able to point you to some easy application tasks to work on. 18:09:12 sure thanks 18:09:21 * abadger1999 peeks in 18:09:24 marcdeop: are you more interested in sysadmin work? or application development... 18:09:53 nirik: depending on what exactly application development is ;) 18:10:01 anyway, mostly sysadmin 18:10:30 well, we develop a number of applications in house for fedora... bodhi (our updates app), pkgdb (package database), fas (fedora account system), etc... they are mostly/all in python. 18:10:48 I'm 29 years old, from Barcelona, (catalunya,spain). I work as a sysadmin in a 25people company an have been using linux since 1998. I have experience building rpm packages, bash, java, dirsrv,mysql.. 18:10:49 cool. I can help you with the apprentice setup in fedora-admin after the meeting too... 18:11:10 welcome to both of you! 18:11:43 welcome! 18:12:03 ok, any other questions from apprentices, new folks, or the like? 18:12:23 * marcdeop thanks both nirik and ctria :) 18:12:42 ok, moving along then... 18:13:02 #topic two factor auth status 18:13:21 * nirik looks for skvidal. 18:13:29 we can come back to this one. 18:13:32 I have fixed a few of the segfaults, but there is still one kind of persistent one that won't go away 18:13:42 wolfkit: nasty. ;( 18:13:48 any idea who might be able to help track it down? 18:14:02 yeah, it happens when one pam module says the auth succeeded and pam_url does not succeed, it causes a segfault 18:14:09 if they both fail it's fine, if they both succeed it's fine 18:14:16 huh. 18:14:27 perhaps the pam-devel list could assist? 18:15:02 yeah, perhaps :) will do a bit more debugging (hoping to get more debuginfo packages installed on the testbox) and then email them if that doesn't help me track it down 18:15:41 ok, sounds good. 18:15:50 that does sound like something we want fixed before deploying. 18:16:05 certainly 18:16:47 ok, thanks again for working on it. 18:16:51 #topic Staging re-work status 18:17:14 I'm going to try and move this forward again soon... I'd like to get bapp01 retired before we do it, so a few things left there. 18:17:25 #info should hopefully move forward next week 18:17:40 of course we have a freeze coming up, so we will see. 18:18:10 #topic Applications status / discussion 18:18:28 abadger1999 / lmacken / CodeBlock / threebean / pingou : any application devel news this week? 18:18:42 #info threebean is working through reviews for fedmsg 18:19:34 I'm going to wrap up the tagger deployment this week. I got sucked into a bunch of packaging for it 18:19:42 I was wondering if threebean got help from those new infra contributors on package review but he's not here today. 18:20:02 lmacken: cool. I see packages02 still shows as down in haproxy (for tagger) 18:20:14 I heard back from daMaestro, he said he got my email for dpsearch help and is going to take a look at it over the next few days and get back to me. That was a few days ago, so I'm probably due to ping him and see if he's had any luck 18:20:16 I've been busy with GSoC/Board/other paperwork this week :-( 18:20:23 abadger1999: yeah, there were a number of reviews, so not sure how many were done by whom. 18:20:29 i recently got sponsored as packager so i could probably help with reviews. 18:20:46 ctria: excellent. He had a list posted to the infra list. 18:20:49 (at least easy ones) 18:20:50 Going to try to finish up getting the hyperkitty test up on the new box this week. 18:20:58 nirik: I know you've been away, but how is the stickynotes review coming along? 18:20:58 nirik, i'll check it. 18:21:00 nirik: yeah, it's all good on packages01, but i wanted to deploy to 2 w/o having to manually rpm -e some stuff 18:21:10 so I got pulled into packaging land 18:21:12 lmacken: good call. 18:21:33 relrod: I should ping on it... not sure where it's at currently. I think patches all landed upstream, so it should be close. 18:21:42 cool 18:22:08 there was a design team person wanting to look into the themeing some more, I asked them to ping you on that theme you worked up 18:23:01 ok, any other app news? or shall we move on? 18:23:45 nirik: cool I haven't heard from anyone, but happy to work with people on that 18:23:53 #topic Upcoming Tasks/Items 18:23:53 #info 2012-05-01 - nag fi-apprentices. 18:23:53 #info 2011-05-03 - gitweb-cache removal day. 18:23:53 #info 2012-05-08 to 2012-05-22 FINAL FREEZE 18:23:53 #info 2012-05-09 - Check if puppet works on f17 yet. 18:23:54 #info 2012-05-10 - drop inactive fi-apprentices 18:23:58 #info 2012-05-22 - F17 release 18:24:04 relrod: I can get the irc nick, I don't recall off hand.. 18:24:13 ok, I am going to nag apprentices today. ;) 18:24:21 and we head into final freeze next week. 18:24:33 any other items folks would like to schedule or note? 18:25:04 we might want to start looking at post f17 items... 18:25:25 ie, getting application releases scheduled or big work items that we need to do outside a freeze. 18:26:52 ok, do be thinking on that. :) 18:26:56 #topic Open Floor 18:27:08 anyone have items for open floor? questions? comments? ideas? 18:27:20 I will be working on the following 18:27:37 1) moving mailing lists from redhat.com to collab 18:27:38 nirik, *, any more stuff for "easy fixers"? 18:27:51 2) moving mailing lists from hosted to hosted-lists 18:28:11 smooge: great. 18:28:12 I think that is it 18:28:25 ctria: I will try and whip up some more when I get caught up. 18:28:48 ok, i'll catch you later for questions about FIGs 18:28:54 ctria: sounds good. 18:29:37 I just realized that tomorrow marks my two years of being a Fedora/FI contributor. Kind of neat. May 4, 2010 I sent my welcome email. :) 18:29:55 relrod: congrats! :) 18:30:31 relrod, you are getting old and rusty :P 18:30:32 nirik: thanks - here's to many more! 18:31:15 ok, will close out the meeting in a minute if nothing more. 18:31:21 wait 18:31:27 jwb: go ahead 18:31:30 nirik, i opened that darkserver bug you asked for 18:31:41 jwb: yeah, I saw it... haven't had a chance to comment. 18:31:41 nirik, and they did an epel update for it to ignore the kernel for now 18:32:07 ok. just wanted to point it out. not sure if you wanted to roll that update into production or not 18:32:12 that doesn't seem like a very good long term fix, but we can pull that in for now to help the kernel team out. 18:32:34 yeah, I bet other packages also hit it. 18:32:47 but perhaps not as much since they don't rebuild as often as the kernel does. 18:32:58 my thinking as well 18:33:56 so, I'd be ok pulling that in for now, but asking for a better long term solution... 18:34:26 nirik, one more. when you have time check my response at ticket 3231, to me it looks like the problem is on service and not the monitoring. 18:34:49 .ticket 3231 18:34:51 abadger1999: #3231 (Figure out why unbound ssl monitoring breaks from time to time) – Fedora Infrastructure - https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-infrastructure/ticket/3231 18:34:51 ctria: yeah, saw that too. ;) Still digging thru emails... will start replying/looking at stuff as I have time. 18:35:08 so, that instance may have some real issue with that service... 18:36:05 yeap. it closes the connection immediately (trying via telnet). Others do wait for some timeout 18:36:27 we have seen that error from others as well... but it clears after a bit. 18:36:29 (i don't speak native ssl to check it without stunnel) 18:36:37 so, perhaps it's a connection limit issue... 18:36:45 could be 18:37:03 anyhow, will look when I am able. 18:37:58 ok, anything else? 18:38:22 ctria, could try openssl s_client, works like a SSL version of telnet. :) 18:39:18 hm� will do, but then i'll have to speak DNS protocol :P 18:39:28 Thanks for coming everyone, lets continue over in #fedora-admin, #fedora-apps and #fedora-noc. ;) 18:39:33 #endmeeting